OT Possible terrorist attack in NYC

[dviss1]

The lyrics, which essentially tell the listener to be themselves and embrace their culture, tell the stories of two young men, both of whom Zappa describes as "foolish". The first man is from a middle class family who has a great life, but he pretends to come from a culture of hardship and sings the blues to be manly. Then the song refers to him as even trying to eat like someone going through hardship. He begins to talk like the character Kingfish, from the radio show Amos and Andy, who was known for being a heavily stereotypical black character. These themes overall relate to Zappa's dislike of poseurs. The second young man "of the negro persuasion, devoted his life to become a caucasian". Like the first man, he changes his diet to fit in with the culture he is looking to join. It goes over the stereotype of African Americans eating pork and collard greens. His story is a commentary on African Americans who are not proud of their heritage and feel following the Caucasian culture would bring them more acceptance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Are_What_You_Is_(song)

Please don't ever quote wikipedia to me. It's never a valid source and has been Right washed to death.

 

[dviss1]

Next you'll be calling for the banning of Huck Finn and To Kill A Mockingbird.

Don't say things that aren't smart.

 

[dviss1]

The lyrics, which essentially tell the listener to be themselves and embrace their culture, tell the stories of two young men, both of whom Zappa describes as "foolish". The first man is from a middle class family who has a great life, but he pretends to come from a culture of hardship and sings the blues to be manly. Then the song refers to him as even trying to eat like someone going through hardship. He begins to talk like the character Kingfish, from the radio show Amos and Andy, who was known for being a heavily stereotypical black character. These themes overall relate to Zappa's dislike of poseurs. The second young man "of the negro persuasion, devoted his life to become a caucasian". Like the first man, he changes his diet to fit in with the culture he is looking to join. It goes over the stereotype of African Americans eating pork and collard greens. His story is a commentary on African Americans who are not proud of their heritage and feel following the Caucasian culture would bring them more acceptance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Are_What_You_Is_(song)

So Zappa thinks there's a such thing as acting white or black??? Again, get off of Zappa (because I truly DGAF about him) and focus on the fact that @riverman only brought up pork because he is Muslim.

That's the point.

Then you go talk about book banning... C'mon man.. Both of you have missed that point..

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Spoiler: Trigger Warning!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Please don't ever quote wikipedia to me. It's never a valid source and has been Right washed to death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigger

 

[MARIS61]

Everyone should read the Bible in school. Along with all the other historically influential works of fiction.

 

[dviss1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigger

Sigh... Why aren't you addressing what I was? This is a weird ass post. Riverman earlier ONLY brought up smelling like pork because of being pissed at the Muslim terrorist.

I QUOTE SCRIPTURE where it says in the CHRISTIAN bible that eating pork is as unclean as homosexuality. Then we get off base talking about Zappa and Wikipedia bullshit.

You have yet to even talk about what I confronted him about.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Sigh... Why aren't you addressing what I was? This is a weird ass post. Riverman earlier ONLY brought up smelling like pork because of being pissed at the Muslim terrorist.

I QUOTE SCRIPTURE where it says in the CHRISTIAN bible that eating pork is as unclean as homosexuality. Then we get off base talking about Zappa and Wikipedia bullshit.

You have yet to even talk about what I confronted him about.

You're the one who brought Zappa into this.

 

[theprunetang]

The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

 

[dviss1]

You're the one who brought Zappa into this.

Imma need you to go back and read the thread. Riverman said his pork quote was from Zappa and that it wasn't bigoted because it was a Zappa quote. Whatever the fuck that means.

I AGAIN will say:

Riverman earlier ONLY brought up smelling like pork because of being pissed at the Muslim terrorist.

So if the terrorist was black would he not want to smell like chicken and watermelon on his way to heaven? CHRISTIANS aren't supposed to eat pork either...

MFs don't get it and try to minimize, justify, and rationalize it by saying they were "venting".

Yes @riverman I vent. Often. But I don't stereotype when I do it.. Anger doesn't make me label up a group of people.

That's why I said you're better than that.

 

[dviss1]

Does this qualify or not @SlyPokerDog?

 

[Nate]

Does this qualify or not @SlyPokerDog?

Does calling me a “cuck” qualify?

I’m also not a conservative, so I would like to make a formal complaint that I was insulted.

You also called me ignorant.

 

[dviss1]

Does calling me a “cuck” qualify?

I’m also not a conservative, so I would like to make a formal complaint that I was insulted.

You also called me ignorant.

You gonna do a citizens arrest next...?

 

[theprunetang]

Does calling me a “cuck” qualify?

I’m also not a conservative, so I would like to make a formal complaint that I was insulted.

You also called me ignorant.

Your post is ignorant.

 

[Nate]

Your post is ignorant.

Sick burn bro.

 

[dviss1]

Your post is ignorant.

There's a reason why I have him on ignore.

 

[Nate]

There's a reason why I have him on ignore.

Yet here you are, reading my posts.

 

[Nate]

And @dviss1

Just so you know, Christianity, is not the same thing as Judaism.

Always here to help you with your African history.

 

[trailblazer18]

Imma need you to go back and read the thread. Riverman said his pork quote was from Zappa and that it wasn't bigoted because it was a Zappa quote. Whatever the fuck that means.

I AGAIN will say:

Riverman earlier ONLY brought up smelling like pork because of being pissed at the Muslim terrorist.

So if the terrorist was black would he not want to smell like chicken and watermelon on his way to heaven? CHRISTIANS aren't supposed to eat pork either...

MFs don't get it and try to minimize, justify, and rationalize it by saying they were "venting".

Yes @riverman I vent. Often. But I don't stereotype when I do it.. Anger doesn't make me label up a group of people.

That's why I said you're better than that.

Not Christians, but Jews. The section of scripture you reference is from the Old Testament (the old covenant), specifically Mosaic Law. Christians, who didn't exist until after the death and resurrection of Christ (in the New Testament) can eat Pork. Peter had a vision and God told him it was ok - what goes into your mouth does not make you unclean, but what comes out (from your heart) is what makes you unclean.

 

[Nate]

Not Christians, but Jews. The section of scripture you reference is from the Old Testament (the old covenant), specifically Mosaic Law. Christians, who didn't exist until after the death and resurrection of Christ (in the New Testament) can eat Pork. Peter had a vision and God told him it was ok - what goes into your mouth does not make you unclean, but what comes out (from your heart) is what makes you unclean.

That doesn’t fit his narrative though...

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Not Christians, but Jews. The section of scripture you reference is from the Old Testament (the old covenant), specifically Mosaic Law. Christians, who didn't exist until after the death and resurrection of Christ (in the New Testament) can eat Pork. Peter had a vision and God told him it was ok - what goes into your mouth does not make you unclean, but what comes out (from your heart) is what makes you unclean.

You should re-read that passage. Peter's vision used animals as a metaphor for people, and was his revelation that the salvation of Christ was available to gentiles as well as to Jews.

Mark 7, however, has the passage in which Jesus explicitly says what is contained in the last part of your post.

 

[trailblazer18]

That doesn’t fit his narrative though...

I'm not too worried about the narrative in this thread. Just trying to share some knowledge.

 

[trailblazer18]

You should re-read that passage. Peter's vision used animals as a metaphor for people, and was his revelation that the salvation of Christ was available to gentiles as well as to Jews.

Mark 7, however, has the passage in which Jesus explicitly says what is contained in the last part of your post.

I do understand that, and I'm glad you pointed that out. Don't ever put your trust in man. Always have to have your Bible with you to check yourself.

 

[dviss1]

Not Christians, but Jews. The section of scripture you reference is from the Old Testament (the old covenant), specifically Mosaic Law. Christians, who didn't exist until after the death and resurrection of Christ (in the New Testament) can eat Pork. Peter had a vision and God told him it was ok - what goes into your mouth does not make you unclean, but what comes out (from your heart) is what makes you unclean.

What does any of this have to do with only using the phrase "smelling like pork" because the guy was Muslim?

Nothing, that's what.

 

[dviss1]

I do understand that, and I'm glad you pointed that out. Don't ever put your trust in man. Always have to have your Bible with you to check yourself.

Man (FALLIBLE man) is the one who wrote it.

 

[trailblazer18]

What does any of this have to do with only using the phrase "smelling like pork" because the guy was Muslim?

Nothing, that's what.

I agree that the phrase was used because he was Muslim. I was just mentioning the incorrect part of your statement - trying to help make your statement accurate.

 

[trailblazer18]

Man (FALLIBLE man) is the one who wrote it.

You are correct, fallible man did put the pen to the paper, but as a Christian we believe they were inspired/empowered by God to write His word.

 

[dviss1]

You are correct, fallible man did put the pen to the paper, but as a Christian we believe they were inspired/empowered by God to write His word.

Sure, there's scripture for that. So then if it's God inspired, is it truly a shame for a woman to speak in church, or was it just Paul's words?

1 Corinthians 14:34-35King James Version (KJV)
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

 

[dviss1]

^^^^^ That is one of the many reasons I don't subscribe to religion.

 

[theprunetang]

^^^^^ That is one of the many reasons I don't subscribe to religion.

It's all bullshit.