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BigGameDamian said:
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I highly doubt Neil would just dump Whiteside before seeing Nurk play anyway. So ideally Nurk would return sometime before the deadline, giving the team time to evaluate him. I don’t expect him to be on a minutes restriction for long once he returns.
 
GDiama said:
I guess with Isaac out for two months Orlando is done and will look to get rid of some contracts. Gordon has been terrible this season but only 24 and can help with his athleticism.

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Not interested in Gordon. I would prefer Fournier.

Orlando will probably still make the playoffs without Isaac, no need to panic for them.
 
Scalma said:
I highly doubt Neil would just dump Whiteside before seeing Nurk play anyway. So ideally Nurk would return sometime before the deadline, giving the team time to evaluate him. I don’t expect him to be on a minutes restriction for long once he returns.
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Does it really matter? If there is a chance to get something of value for Whiteside then you take it and fill the hole with a throw-in from the trade or pick someone up with the open roster spot or Hood DPE. It's not like this team is good with Whiteside anyway even though he's been pretty good.
 
Scalma said:
there’s nearly 50 games left, the team is still in the playoff hunt, and the only guy they’ve definitely lost for the season is Hood. So, yes.
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50 games, yes, but we're not very good at winning games so more games is just going to hurt our record, not help lol.
 
Getting back Harkless at starting SF would be a real feel good story and he'd help on defense. Getting a PG like DJ Augustin would be great too as we haven't had a true backup PG since.... I can't remember, Mo Williams?
 
Not an exciting trade, maybe been brought up already, but could see something with the Pistons, bringing back Snell and Morris. Bazemore for the 2 is just off $$ wise. Both over 40% from 3 would be a big help in spreading the floor currently.
 
hoopsjock said:
Does it really matter? If there is a chance to get something of value for Whiteside then you take it and fill the hole with a throw-in from the trade or pick someone up with the open roster spot or Hood DPE. It's not like this team is good with Whiteside anyway even though he's been pretty good.
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that would be the best way to tank without blatantly tanking. Trade Whiteside (or Bazemore...or both) for nearly useless player(s) on smaller expiring contracts plus some 2nd round picks. I don't know if anybody would be interested though. Rather than giving up a pick, teams would probably just choose to ride out the expiring contract. Have to be a team competing for a playoff spot that needs a big man

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the 'biggest' trade was something like Bazemore + cash for Brandon Knight. Blazers kick in the cash to keep Cleveland whole, maybe push an extra 500K across the table. Meanwhile Portland cuts 3.6M off their payroll which saves 8-9M in tax

KSF-ERIC said:
Getting a PG like DJ Augustin would be great too as we haven't had a true backup PG since.... I can't remember, Mo Williams?
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Steve Blake the following year
 
RR7 said:
Not an exciting trade, maybe been brought up already, but could see something with the Pistons, bringing back Snell and Morris. Bazemore for the 2 is just off $$ wise. Both over 40% from 3 would be a big help in spreading the floor currently.
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it’d be a pretty significant upgrade, I’m dying for a Morris brother on the blazers.
 
RR7 said:
Not an exciting trade, maybe been brought up already, but could see something with the Pistons, bringing back Snell and Morris. Bazemore for the 2 is just off $$ wise. Both over 40% from 3 would be a big help in spreading the floor currently.
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Have them include Galloway too, and send Trent back their direction.
 
Something like this with Detroit and Charlotte...

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Blazers send out around $47 million and only take back $35.7 million almost eliminating them from paying tax this year. They'd probably have to throw in some 2nd round picks to Detroit sweeten this deal and maybe Charlotte would too but Detroit starts their rebuild and the Hornets get a center that they'd hopefully re-sign and add to their young core.

The Blazers replace Whiteside with Biyombo while finally adding a legit playmaking PG off the bench and a solid depth wing who are both under contract for next season which would bolster the bench for when everyone is healthy.
 
hoopsjock said:
Something like this with Detroit and Charlotte...

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Blazers send out around $47 million and only take back $35.7 million almost eliminating them from paying tax this year. They'd probably have to throw in some 2nd round picks to Detroit sweeten this deal and maybe Charlotte would too but Detroit starts their rebuild and the Hornets get a center that they'd hopefully re-sign and add to their young core.

The Blazers replace Whiteside with Biyombo while finally adding a legit playmaking PG off the bench and a solid depth wing who are both under contract for next season which would bolster the bench for when everyone is healthy.
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Why wouldn't both Detroit and Charlotte just cut Portland out of the deal? It's not bad from their standpoint, but it would be better for both teams not to include Portland.
 
hoopsjock said:
Something like this with Detroit and Charlotte...

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Blazers send out around $47 million and only take back $35.7 million almost eliminating them from paying tax this year. They'd probably have to throw in some 2nd round picks to Detroit sweeten this deal and maybe Charlotte would too but Detroit starts their rebuild and the Hornets get a center that they'd hopefully re-sign and add to their young core.

The Blazers replace Whiteside with Biyombo while finally adding a legit playmaking PG off the bench and a solid depth wing who are both under contract for next season which would bolster the bench for when everyone is healthy.
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I don't see the value to Detroit in that. Sure they need to rebuild, but ditching their two best players for expirings? I mean, I get that they're stuck with Blake's terrible deal, but I'd think they'd be able to get more than just that for Drummond and Rose.
 
tester551 said:
Why wouldn't both Detroit and Charlotte just cut Portland out of the deal? It's not bad from their standpoint, but it would be better for both teams not to include Portland.
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It was basically two separate Blazer trades that I made into one. My thinking is that from Detroit's perspective they get out of two contracts for next year that Charlotte probably doesn't want to take on so it started with just Detroit and Portland without Drummond but was looking for a center to replace Whiteside if he was traded and thought Biyombo would likely be an easy target.

PtldPlatypus said:
I don't see the value to Detroit in that. Sure they need to rebuild, but ditching their two best players for expirings? I mean, I get that they're stuck with Blake's terrible deal, but I'd think they'd be able to get more than just that for Drummond and Rose.
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Drummond can and will likely bounce this off season so getting a 1st round pick for him is decent, in my opinion. I'd be surprised if a team gave up much more than that but that is also why I specifically included that both Portland and Charlotte might have to sweeten the deal for Detroit.
 
Since you guys are hung up on the Drummond part of it this is what it would look like without him. The Blazers don't save any money in this deal but I think Charlotte would give up 2nd round picks which would go to Detroit.

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hoopsjock said:
Since you guys are hung up on the Drummond part of it this is what it would look like without him. The Blazers don't save any money in this deal but I think Charlotte would give up 2nd round picks which would go to Detroit.

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And with that, I don't see any point in involving the Hornets. Is MKG really worth the Whiteside-to-Biyombo downgrade? If the Pistons would take Bazemore and 2nds for Rose and Snell, I think you do that in a heartbeat.

Still think I'd prefer the Snell/Galloway/Morris for Bazemore/Trent deal proposed earlier though.
 
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With the picks.

Charlotte adds a decent center for a playoff push. Pistons clear $20 million next year.
 
hoopsjock said:
It was basically two separate Blazer trades that I made into one. My thinking is that from Detroit's perspective they get out of two contracts for next year that Charlotte probably doesn't want to take on so it started with just Detroit and Portland without Drummond but was looking for a center to replace Whiteside if he was traded and thought Biyombo would likely be an easy target.


Drummond can and will likely bounce this off season so getting a 1st round pick for him is decent, in my opinion. I'd be surprised if a team gave up much more than that but that is also why I specifically included that both Portland and Charlotte might have to sweeten the deal for Detroit.
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To add fuel to your "Detroit trading Drummond" fire...

 
PtldPlatypus said:
And with that, I don't see any point in involving the Hornets. Is MKG really worth the Whiteside-to-Biyombo downgrade? If the Pistons would take Bazemore and 2nds for Rose and Snell, I think you do that in a heartbeat.

Still think I'd prefer the Snell/Galloway/Morris for Bazemore/Trent deal proposed earlier though.
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You involve the Hornets because they might be willing to give up the 2nd round picks instead of the Blazers having to do it if they get a player like Whiteside out of the deal. MKG isn't wanted at all, he's merely an expiring contract to make it work money wise and adds incentive for Charlotte to give up the picks. The Blazers could then flip MKG somewhere else too, such as MKG and a 1st to Sacramento for Bogdonavic.

Then all of a sudden next year you have:

Dame, CJ, Rose, Simons, Bogdonavic (if re-signed as an RFA), Trent, Snell, Hood (assuming he picks up his PO), Little, Collins, Nurk, and Skal (if re-signed as an RFA)

Sign a decent big with the MLE and maybe bring Biyombo back as cheap bench filler since we'd have his full bird rights.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
To add fuel to your "Detroit trading Drummond" fire...

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I've been hearing for two months now that Charlotte was super interested in pairing Drummond with Rozier, that's why I made the trade the way I did.

Atlanta is interesting too. They have Chandler Parson's expiring contract and multiple extra 1st round picks, plus a super young roster. Trae Young, DeAndre Hunter, John Collins, and Andre Drummond is an intriguing core.
 
I don’t really get why Atlanta or Charlotte would want Drummond when they have little to no chance (in case of Atlanta) of making playoffs this season and he expires at the end of season. Atlanta would have all the cap space in the world to sign him in July as well.
 
Sarni said:
I don’t really get why Atlanta or Charlotte would want Drummond when they have little to no chance (in case of Atlanta) of making playoffs this season and he expires at the end of season. Atlanta would have all the cap space in the world to sign him in July as well.
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You get his Bird Rights and can sign him for more money than he could sign with those teams if he was a free agent from Detroit. Plus you get a chance to show him that he's a part of their future.
 
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Scalma said:
Wonder if any of the teams that lose out on Drummond would be interested in Whiteside.
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Seems reasonable they would and in fact maybe Whiteside is more desirable to all of those teams. The issue is, when do we deal Whiteside with Nurkic still rehabbing and Skal being out for a period of time.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
To add fuel to your "Detroit trading Drummond" fire...

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It's being reported that Atlanta's offer was expirings and a 1st rounder (via Brooklyn). The Charlotte trade I proposed is almost the exact same value.
 
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