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John Bolton compared Kash Patel, who promised revenge against Trump enemies, to Stalin's hatchet man Beria. It was Beria who actually carried out the purges, mass incarceration, mass internal relocations.
 
crandc said:
John Bolton compared Kash Patel, who promised revenge against Trump enemies, to Stalin's hatchet man Beria. It was Beria who actually carried out the purges, mass incarceration, mass internal relocations.
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Nothing that exits John Boltons mouth is legitimate.
 
crandc said:
John Bolton compared Kash Patel, who promised revenge against Trump enemies, to Stalin's hatchet man Beria. It was Beria who actually carried out the purges, mass incarceration, mass internal relocations.
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Oh good that was a position we were missing!
 
Pete Hesgeth, nominee for Defense Secretary, Christian nationalists rapist who wants to get women out of combat (maybe because they learn how to fight off rapists) and get trans people out of military entirely, appears to have serious drinking problem. According to New Yorker, he was kicked off two charities for showing up drunk and for sexual misconduct and financial mismanagement. On numerous occasions he had to be carried home because he was too drunk. He also reportedly shouted "kill all Muslims" in a bar.

Exactly the kind of person who should have senior national security job.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/pete-hegseths-secret-history
 
Phatguysrule said:
Only one had any appeal other than "I'm not that guy"...

Problem is, to be for anything that matters to normal people would make you not a corporate Democrat and therefore would be railroaded by the DNC.
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Oh I get it.

Dad is drinking again and punching holes in the wall, and Mom is putting her hands over her ears and screaming "kids stop complaining!" whenever we ask for dinner. Dad just backhanded Mom and looked straight at you and said, "If you say a word to the principal I'm kicking you out of my fucking house, now shut up and get me another beer."

And we're all that kid. Some people operate well under those conditions. They know that if you get Dad a beer he won't whoop you. To them, Mom is weak and hysterical for pretending peace in this house could ever be an option. But Mom would slip you money for lunch behind Dad's back, and that was sometimes the only meal you got that day. Buuut, she made up stories to cover up why you were showing up to school with bruises.

Mom's complicated. Dad isn't (other than his dad beat him as a kid too).
A lot of people chose to give Dad a beer, and might enjoy it a bit in a really cynical way to see him hit Mom again.
 
Everything Beagle said:
Oh I get it.

Dad is drinking again and punching holes in the wall, and Mom is putting her hands over her ears and screaming "kids stop complaining!" whenever we ask for dinner. Dad just backhanded Mom and looked straight at you and said, "If you say a word to the principal I'm kicking you out of my fucking house, now shut up and get me another beer."

And we're all that kid. Some people operate well under those conditions. They know that if you get Dad a beer he won't whoop you. To them, Mom is weak and hysterical for pretending peace in this house could ever be an option. But Mom would slip you money for lunch behind Dad's back, and that was sometimes the only meal you got that day. Buuut, she made up stories to cover up why you were showing up to school with bruises.

Mom's complicated. Dad isn't (other than his dad beat him as a kid too).
A lot of people chose to give Dad a beer, and might enjoy it a bit in a really cynical way to see him hit Mom again.
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Trump had 3 million fewer votes than last time. The reality is that a lot of people just checked out.

*Edit* Correction, I just checked again and Trump got 2.8 million MORE votes than last time

But Harris got 6.8 million fewer. So if Dems could have energized their base they could have won.
 
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Strenuus said:
2.5 million votes separated them. The fatigue won the election, honestly.
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As intended. It was honestly a masterful plan. One the Democrats couldn't possibly counter without turning away from their corporate overlords. And they aren't ready to do that.
 
Phatguysrule said:
As intended. It was honestly a masterful plan. One the Democrats couldn't possibly counter without turning away from their corporate overlords. And they aren't ready to do that.
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The sad part people didn't realize in their fatigue is if they had just voted (I'm assuming here that it was democrats with the fatigue) against him, this would have been about his batshit insane election denying with court cases getting thrown out 60 times over because of frivolous filings... but now peoples rights are taken away and a good possibility we don't recover from this.

And that'd of lasted weeks to months, instead of now it'll last decades.
 
What about the guys who think women being mean to them are the real genocide perpetrators? We weren’t nice enough to them so they voted for Trump… are we still being asked to take that reason seriously?
 
Strenuus said:
The sad part people didn't realize in their fatigue is if they had just voted (I'm assuming here that it was democrats with the fatigue) against him, this would have been about his batshit insane election denying with court cases getting thrown out 60 times over because of frivolous filings... but now peoples rights are taken away and a good possibility we don't recover from this.

And that'd of lasted weeks to months, instead of now it'll last decades.
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Unfortunately, that's not very compelling for many people. It was compelling to me...
 
Everything Beagle said:
What about the guys who think women being mean to them are the real genocide perpetrators? We weren’t nice enough to them so they voted for Trump… are we still being asked to take that reason seriously?
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I think things like this will move a few people. But not the kind of movement we need. Not in any sustainable way.

That's not to make light of it. Solving the larger problems of universal access to education, healthcare, and limiting how far someone can fall via a strong social safety net would address this problem as well.

It should be explained how specific problems like this could be addressed by the overall solutions of increased access to education, healthcare, and improved social safety net.
 
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Summary of what to expect. Pack critical appointments with unqualified and disqualified people. Unqualified meaning lacks relevant experience. Trump named daughter Tiffany's father in law senior advisor on Middle East. He is Arab- American businessman who owns car dealership and has no experience or expertise in diplomacy or Middle East politics. Disqualified people should simply be nowhere near the positions to which they are named: Tulsi Gabbard, Robert Kennedy, Pete Hesgeth, Kash Patel. None of this is accidental. Project 2025 calls for eliminating administrative state and replacing with loyalists so all power is uniquely held by one person, Trump. Who in fact is run by a small number of handlers for benefit of richest.
We all groan and joke about government bureaucracy but fact is most of the time it works. Mail is delivered, income tax processed, social security checks arrive, ballots counted, planes rarely collide midair.
We can no longer take this for granted.
 
I love this forum.

-Lost the electoral college
-Lost EVERY swing state
-Lost the popular vote
-Lost the House
-Lost the Senate

I am so entertained by the out of touch excuses elaborating on how it was ‘actually not that bad’.
 
jonnyboy said:
I love this forum.

-Lost the electoral college
-Lost EVERY swing state
-Lost the popular vote
-Lost the House
-Lost the Senate

I am so entertained by the out of touch excuses elaborating on how it was ‘actually not that bad’.
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you are seeing posts that this isn’t that bad? Where?
 
GoZers said:
you are seeing posts that this isn’t that bad? Where?
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He hasn't, he's just trolling.

No one is saying it's not bad except the couple of trollers. It's bad. It's gonna be a shit show. The only upside is, now that the Republicans have complete control, once they destroy everything, they can't blame the Democrats.
 
Canada will not become a US state.
The true North remains strong and free.
 
Chris Craig said:
He hasn't, he's just trolling.

No one is saying it's not bad except the couple of trollers. It's bad. It's gonna be a shit show. The only upside is, now that the Republicans have complete control, once they destroy everything, they can't blame the Democrats.
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It just ping pongs back and forth every 2 to 4 years because both parties let the country down.
 
Chris Craig said:
He hasn't, he's just trolling.

No one is saying it's not bad except the couple of trollers. It's bad. It's gonna be a shit show. The only upside is, now that the Republicans have complete control, once they destroy everything, they can't blame the Democrats.
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You and the other guy misunderstood what i was saying, unsurprisingly. I was referring to people saying it wasn’t that bad of a loss, from a metrics standpoint. People suggesting a little tweak here or there on how the campaign was run would’ve changed the outcome of the election, or trying to blame the loss on the usual screaming liberal boogeymen like racism, sexism, etc. None of those factors were even a drop in the bucket.
The fact that the Biden/Harris administration was a complete clown show and disaster is too tough of a pill to swallow for a bunch of people who got gaslit into believing Biden wasn’t senile or the economy was good, among other things. They parroted the talking points and still won’t let go of them, so now have to point in other directions for blame.
The fact is, people who are capable of seeing plainly what’s going on around them did not vote to continue the Biden/Harris gaslighting circus extravaganza. And that’s a solid majority of people thank god.
 
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