Pre-season game 1 Boston vs. Rangers

[kreidertime]

I'm already not liking the moronic way the organization is approaching the 4th line again this season using re-treads instead of building from within. You would have thought these dumbasses would have learned not making the finals with Shesterkin. For starters, if they are relying on Chytil they are stupid beyond belief. I suspect we will be without a third line center in less than 20 games this season. Berard for his size seems to like to hit a lot as does Othmann. I would have no issues with Berard and Othmann on the fourth line breaking in as long as Othmann got second PP time with newly formed PP units. If moron Trouba will be here, might as well tell him to shoot from the point on the PP. I would not have Jones on the team but they will probably do that.

PP1

Panarin-Trochek-Lafreniere
Fox - Kakko

PP2
Zibanejad-Kreider-Othmann
Trouba-Jones

 

[Ranger71]

Sounds like Sykora will play one more year in Hartford or maybe he gets a little time if there's an injury. I guess Brodcrapski is still around too. They may need to add someone later in the year.

 

[kreidertime]

If I see this dumbass coach and GM go with the same crap with all the vets on the PP and not start building this team around Lafreniere and try to salvage Kakko, both should be fired. However, all Dolan does is jerk off and think he's a guitar player. When he actually needs to step in as an owner, he's fucking useless. The vets for the most part on this team suck dick in the playoffs when they play a really good team. They should not be rewarded with PP time over the kids. They had their chance and failed miserably. It's time to move on.

 

[PorterPanzer]

I'd rather see Brodshitsky on the 4th line than another year of Softo Krappo eating up minutes on the 2nd line not shooting, not hitting, turning the puck over. Now with a President's Trophy noone cares about under his belt Lav can focus on the prize.

 

[kreidertime]

Typical Rangers fan blaming Kakko and not the organization for doing exactly what every other organization doesn’t do when developing a top prospect at the forward position. It’s amazing how our dumbass fans continue to trust an organization that’s won one cup and over 85+ years. So I guess you’ll be happy with that pussy Zibanejad skating around with his long fucking hair scoring on the power play doing jack shit at even strength another year for 8 million.

 

[Greyvtrayn]

Ahhh the age-old debate continues! Who is to blame? The underperforming player or the clueless organization?
Really the organization has failed Kakko if you ask me. As far as I can remember, they never truly committed to giving Kakko top line minutes or long-term meaningful PP minutes. What he would have done with that/become (?) we will never know. But one thing is for sure, he is now what, 5 full years into his career and he is nowhere close to where the team needs him to be considering the state of the rest of the team. This team is getting OLD as far as top talent is concerned and they are desperate for players to progress the way Lafreniere did last year. They are not going to be a legitimate/formidable Cup contender when their young talent languishes behind high priced, aging veterans who are going to or already have started to regress.
At this point, they have got get him on a line with guys that are going to lift his game because he is not the type of player that can raise the play of his linemates. He should be given a serious opportunity to prove what he is and what he can be. But I doubt it happens....this organization is filled with guys who refuse to take serious risks with the lineup. They seem to be more concerned with self-preservation than taking a chance on someone they should have bought into years ago. Putting Kakko on the first PP at this point is a HUGE risk but, can it pay off in the long run? Yes, but it is not a guarantee. However, without vast improvements with the youth on the team this season they are not going to contend for the Cup any more than they did this year, which had a disappointing end.

 

[kreidertime]

I agree, 100% Greyv. I don’t know if they tried to trade Kakko. However, I do know that he’s here and he’s the second pick in the draft and they have not done what they’re supposed to do to develop him. Lafreniere against all odds overcame it. I don’t care if we have two power-play units and their power-play percentage is worse than last year trying to develop both those players. The team has to learn to score more at even strength if they expect to make the finals and win the cup. Zibandouche and Kreider need to get their head out of their ass and learn to play with somebody on their line. We cannot continue to have our top two young players, not playing the first power-play unit as well as having no one time options from the right side on the PowerPlay

 

[Stepupstepan]

I can see this upcoming season could be the last for zibandouche

 

[kreidertime]

The dumbass organization gave him a NMC for his entire contract because they're stupid.

 

[Ranger71]

He will be here at least a few more years, that would be too much for them to have to eat just to trade him. He just has to man up as the playoffs go on and not fade out. 5/5 is certainly an issue.

 

[kreidertime]

I have zero confidence that Laffy will be on the first PP unit. Lava will continue to go with the same 5 vets of who probably one does anything in the playoffs.

 

[Greyvtrayn]

Yeah, I don't see him making any changes on the PP lines either barring injury. I think it would be wise to shuffle them.

 

[kreidertime]

Dolan should fire both Drury and Lava after the first game of the season if Lafreniere is not on the first PP because the season will be official over as far as winning a cup goes.

 

[Greyvtrayn]

Dolan should sell the team and consider jumping off a high-rise building.

 

[PorterPanzer]

Kakko is the Daniel Jones of the NHL, another terrible pick by the Dave Gettelman of the NHL Jeff Gorton, this hack set the Rangers back years with his hunch picks whose small stature and lack of grit delighted the Satherites but failed to emerge as NHL talent. This notion that a player can't excel unless he's handled with kid gloves is nonsense, look how Cuylle grabbed the opportunity given to him and succeeded, Will deserves PP time more than that floater Krappo.

 

[kreidertime]

You just don't get it. You suck off an organization constantly that has won once in over 85 years. It's really quite pathetic. Cuylle hardly dominated. He was a role player because he was used that way. So were Lafreniere and Kakko until just last year where Lafreniere was put on the top line. Amazing that he stopped producing like a role player when put with Panarin and Trochek. Perhaps you should get your head out of your ass and wonder why it is that Zibanejad and Kreider can't play with anybody not named Buchnevich. Or why we are paying a center 8 million in Zibanedouche who can't score at even strength any longer. You must be a liberal because you don't look at facts. Like how every other team plays a top forward prospect. That's 17+ minutes a night and puts them on the first PP unit from day one in their careers. You thick headed fucking mule.

 

[Greyvtrayn]

Kakko was the UNIVERSAL #2 pick in that draft....Unquestioned. It was Jack Hughes #1, Kakko #2. There is absolutely no disputing that. To try and say otherwise is the equivalent of a brain-dead, gullible, un-educated Trump supporter believing anything that comes out of that loser, fuck-face's mouth. So I guess you're either a liberal or retarded.

Or your political leaning has absolutely nothing to do with this subject, or hockey in general.

 

[Ranger71]

Kakko isn't small in stature he's a pretty big dude. I don't really get the Gorton hate, he was a pretty solid GM here.

 

[kreidertime]

He sucked as a GM. His last draft was not him. It was all JD.

 

[Ranger71]

I see Miller has gone the wacky hair route now.

 

[PorterPanzer]

So emotional and so tough behind the keyboard, would be interesting to see your actions in real life though it's highly unlikely you clowns would be the first to bully me in person,

 

[PorterPanzer]

Back to hockey time to move on from Krappo, too many better prospects with more potential. Drury needs to take what he can get for Kappo. predraft pedigree aside.

 

[Greyvtrayn]

So emotional and so tough behind the keyboard, would be interesting to see your actions in real life though it's highly unlikely you clowns would be the first to bully me in person,

Funny how pointing out how someone is wrong is now considered 'bullying'. Talk about sensative.
This season is without a doubt Kakko's last ride with the team if he doesn't show major improvement. The only shot of that happening is if he plays with the top line talent. Right now he is not someone who can elevate the play of his linemates, he has to take advantage of playing with more skilled players. If he can't do that he'll be another on the long list of embarassing failures for this team. And I'm sure THAT is something we can all agree on.

 

[NYR_94]

One thing to remember about Kakko, he started last season with Kreider and Zibanejad, and also was given a chance in the top 6 by Gallant, and didn't step up either time. Hopefully he gets it done if given the shot again this season, but it won't be the first time he has gotten a top 6 opportunity, he didn't take advantage of his shot(s) like Lafreniere has.

 

[PorterPanzer]

I was referring to the political nonsense you two fools ascribed toward me.

 

[PorterPanzer]

100% 94, to act like Kappo has been given no chances is false, he's failed to capitalize on any of the opportunities presented to him. It's irrelevant what he was forecast to be predraft, that guy never materialized, the window of Cup opportunity is closing, there's not time for the Rangers to hold Kappo's glove another year.

 

[Greyvtrayn]

I was referring to the political nonsense you two fools ascribed toward me.

Oh...I was joking about that. Politics has nothing to do with hockey. Dump has a habit of trying to own the libs for some reason....he's quite mad, really.

 

[kreidertime]

The same nonsense that a lot of our fan base has that this organization knows what it is doing is beyond stupid. It needs to stop. They don't. They had a Hall of Fame goalie in Hank and couldn't put a legit offense around him his entire career. They appear to have another Hall of Fame goalie. One, they can't even build a young 4th line with a clear identity for the next 5 to 8 years. Two, they can't build a team that can't score at even strength. Three, they can't unfuck those two idiots Kreider and Zibanejad and find a player that can play with them. Four, they refuse to do with Lafreniere and Kakko what every other team in the league does with super high, forward draft picks. Play them 17+ minutes and on the first pp unit from day one. Kakko has been on the team 5 years, Lafreniere four and neither has played on the first PP unit other than a microscopic amount. Yet, our dickhead fans continue to lick the ass of the organization, blame the kids, take their dumbass woman to games with a Rangers jersey you bought for her and watch a bunch of vets score in the regular season then get ass fucked in the playoffs.

If you think not putting a high draft pick at forward on the first PP unit for 4 to 5 years is giving them a chance, stop watching hockey. You're a retard. Flip on baseball. It's more your speed.

 

[NYR_94]

I find it interesting you seem to put a lot of stock into whether or not a kid plays on PP1, as if that is the end all be all decider. At the end of the day, both Kakko and Lafreniere have been given chances to play in the top 6. Kakko has yet to capitalize on his opportunities (and Kakko said so himself after last season). I am hopeful he will capitalize on his opportunity this season, as I do think it will be his last chance to prove it with the Rangers.

As I wrote a while back, to me the Kakko thing goes both ways. The organization no doubt has responsibility when a # 2 pick doesn't develop and come close to reaching their potential. But the player also has responsibility to step up and take advantage of the opportunities he is given (which Kakko has not). So, it goes both ways, and honestly if one is being fair, I think it is difficult to argue that.

To me Kakko needs to man up and play man hockey. He seems passive and soft when you watch him play. My best guess is his whole life he dominated with his size and talent prior to the NHL. When what worked for him his whole life didn't work for him in the NHL, I think it got to him mentally and killed his confidence. I am hopeful that he has matured and understands this is his last shot with the Rangers, and just goes out and plays. Be aggressive, shoot the puck whenever you can (he has a good shot), and drive to the net. If he plays with confidence and an edge, I think we'll see different results, as I truly believe the underlying talent is there with Kakko.

As for the organization overall, hard to argue they aren't a poorly run organization when it comes to building a team and actually winning. Dolan is a terrible owner, and Drury is in over his head as Pres/GM. My hopes aren't really high this season given they are worse now than when the season ended, and they weren't good enough to win before. The only shot is kids like Kakko, Othmann, Cuylle, and Jones really take big steps forward and surprise, then maybe they can be a legit contender. When you have one SC since 1940, you are not a well-run organization IMO.

 

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