Prospect update

[Ranger71]

I think you are drugs 71. Stastny and Vrbata will get 5+ million in FA. Something this team doesn't need and shouldn't want. Nor should they want Orpik who will get close to 5 million. The only way they go after Stastny is if Brassard leaves. Otherwise, it's dumb. Stepan is starting to play like he did last season now. Michalek sucks, is overpaid and is overrated.

If there was 1 free agent I'd take it would be Bolland. Let him center the third line, move Miller to wing where I like him a lot better. That's it.

So what if they get 5m plus, they're worth it and will make this team MUCH more SC competitive. They'll have about 15m after signing RFA's and maybe Pouliot or Stralman/Diaz, as long as they don't do something stupid and re-sign Boyle or D. Moore. Stepan cannot be your #1C Dump, just cannot, he and Brassard are good #2s and nothing more. I do agree that maybe a Lindberg/Fast make the team, but they may also look to add a guy like Raymond who knows AV well. I'd like to see Lindberg C the 4th line, he's got a good mix of skill/defense. There's no need to skimp on the salary cap, we aren't the Calgary Flames who barely get above the floor. They'll have plenty of space to re-sign people going forward, especially since most of the big names are now out of the way.

 

[Disturbed]

Plus the cap will continue to go up....It just will. It's going up next year and that isn't stopping with the way revenues are going

Sather cannot help himself with UFA's even if it wasn't a need and with our goalie 32 years old and the window is now t is a need.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

Some of you just want the Rangers to spend money just to spend money.

Pouliot and Brassard have a combined 67 points and will probably cost about 5.5 million to sign to 3 year deals. Stastny and Vrbata have a combine 96 points and will probably cost 11.5 million to sign to 5 to 6 year deals. That's an extra 31 points in 72 games. It's a terrible investment which can't be disputed. The idiotic, FA signing mentality some members on this board have adopted is exactly what made the Rangers a laughing stock organization for years. Then moron Renney came in and flooded the team with no talent, role players, blocking the kids on the farm. Same mentality some people here are now taking. You do not block Miller, Fast, Lindberg and McIlrath who are pretty much NHL ready to go buy a bunch of overpaid, fat cats in UFA. It's stupid.

The team doesn't need scoring. What it needs is for St. Louis to learn the system, Nash to stop playing half the season like a lazy dog, Stepan to play like he is now, Kreider and Zucc to take another step up. The team will score more than enough goals.

 

[chuckd3534]

Here's the thing, that for some reason you refuse to accept, the Rangers will spend to the cap. The Rangers will not put a lineup out there with Brass as the # 2 C, two unproven kids on the 3rd line, and another kid on the 4th line. Where have you been the past 15 seasons that you think they would do that?

On top of that, do you REALLY think that lineup you wrote down is a SC contender...NO SHOT. This team is going for it NOW. You don't make the MSL deal to play a bunch of kids next season as Hank ages.

It's like you want to half way it. We go for it, but let's also play unproven kids on the 3rd line, just no shot dude.

Plus you know the Rangers will spend to the cap, with your lineup we are not at the cap. And as Dis said, the cap will go up every season. Maybe not 6 mill per season, but a few mill I would think.

I know you like the kids. I know you want them to pay. But you need to understand what we are. Kids will get mixed in, no doubt, but not two on the 3rd line. Next season you get 1 or 2 kids in the lineup upfront. Take over for a Boyle and a Moore. That's how this will happen.

 

[Ranger71]

A good 4th line next year could be Miller, Lindberg and any of Dorsett, Haggerty or a FA Raymond type. I know Miller has top 9 ability but I think for his first full year he'd be an asset getting his feet wet there plus providing a grit/skill level they need. Plus they may not have a spot up front if Pouliot and a FA wing/C is signed. I'd look to move Dorsett for a pick at the draft, I just don't think he does enough for them. I wish he was a FA and Carcillo was here for another year.

 

[panzerporter]

Stastny is going to want a hell of a lot more than $5+, he made $6.6 this year so I would think he'd be looking for $7+ unless his agent is a donkey or a die hard Rangers fan. Colorado is way below the cap so they could easily keep him.

The 2014-2015 salary cap is $71.1 mil. Capgeek projects the '14-'15 Rangers at $54.3 mil with 13 players, cutting loose Richards drops $6.6 lowering their base salary to $47.7 with 12 players on the roster. I would think CK and Zuccarello will both want around $3.5 mil putting the Rangers back to $54.3 with 14 players. Hopefully Brassard can be resigned for the same putting them at $57.8 with 15 players. That leaves around $13.3 to sign 2-3 more forwards and 3 dmen. Glen will have to bring in or resign a few of those under $2 mil per year guys like Boyle or call up low salaried youth to be able to land a high priced free agent. If Stralman truly turned down 3 years/$9 mil Glen should immediately rescind and put that money to better use.

 

[Ranger71]

John Moore will probably get 1.5m and maybe they bring back Diaz for 1.5m instead of Stralman which would save. They'd probably have 10-12m for a FA or two so it just depends how they divy it up. Stastny/Vrbata would equal that. That's why they shouldn't bring back Boyle(they shouldn't anyways)and go with Lindberg in his spot for a little less. Perhaps they don't resign Pouliot and expect Miller to take his place.

 

[Disturbed]

Statsny will get $7m being the only center who is good on the market. That has disaster written all over it

 

[dumpstralmannow]

To some of our close minded fans who questioned how good Duclair is. When he got hurt, his team sucked and got destroyed in the playoffs without him. They were nothing without him playing.

Watched Skjei play last night. He's big. He looked considerably bigger than most of the guys out there. Shocked that the coach doesn't use him on the PP. I think it's moronic. He had 2 A last night. I would definitely get him away from that program and coach immediately. Get him to Hartford, let him play the PP constantly to develop his offensive skills. He's wasting his time at Minnesota at this point.

 

[NYR31]

Duclair plays in a league where players put up well over 100pts and don't ever become NHL players, that's why some people here are waiting for him to do it at a higher level before calling him the next coming. That doesn't make them close minded.

 

[dumpstralmannow]

You are absolutely incorrect 31. You did no research. There aren't
many players in the Q any longer that put up 100 points. Look up the past 5 or 6 years. Of those who did and didn't make it, they were 5'8 or around there.

 

[SaveLundy]

This is the top ten QMJHL statistics for 2013-14

Gp - G - A - pts - pims

1 Anthony Mantha Val-d'Or, Foreurs 57 57 63 120 75
2 Marcus Power Rouyn-Noranda, Huskies 67 31 78 109 43
3 Jonathan Drouin Halifax, Mooseheads 46 29 79 108 43
4 * Nikolaj Ehlers Halifax, Mooseheads 63 49 55 104 51
5 Louick Marcotte Val-d'Or, Foreurs 67 42 58 100 47
6 Anthony Duclair Québec, Remparts 59 50 49 99 56
7 Guillaume Gélinas Val-d'Or, Foreurs 67 23 69 92 81
8 Emile Poirier Gatineau, Olympiques 63 43 44 87 129
9 Cameron Darcy Cape Breton, Screaming Eagles 65 35 47 82 51
10 Darcy Ashley Halifax, Mooseheads 48 30 50 80 72


As you can see there are multiple players with 100pts, as there was last year and the year before. Noones saying Duclair isnt a great prospect, but stop blowing him out of proportion when hes playing little boys and not men.

 

[NYR31]

see there are multiple players with 100pts, as there was last year and the year before. Noones saying Duclair isnt a great prospect, but stop blowing him out of proportion when hes playing little boys and not men.

Yup, this is Dump's usual blowing smoke up a prospect he likes. I had typed up the top scorers for each of the last 10 seasons or so in the Q but cannot find that post. Being a 100+ pt scorer in that league is not a sign of anything.