Quick calls out Stotts etc

[kjironman1]

I know that's why Blazersedge hates him because the Blazers changed their policy on media credentials shortly after him and McGowan took over. Kind of funny that one of their writers is now on a Blazers Pre and Post Game show and has to watch what he says now.

Actually there is a little more to that story than you might know? Blazers Edge burned it's own bridge. In particular Dave Deckard.

 

[Scalma]

Nothing is "WRONG" with the question. What you have to think about is the next question. Stotts already knew where that line of questioning was going. If you can't see it then i guess you can't see it. I personally see exactly what Quick was working for. I have been reading the dude since he started with the Oregonian in 99-2000. It's what he does. He even proved it by going for the drop on the "Meeting later In His Office" jab. You ask a question and get an answer. The original answer by Stotts covered CJ's shooting issues and it covered making an impact. The Quick went after that course. and Stotts agreed. Then Quick decided to push for Stotts to drag his player through the mud. Stotts refused!

If you want a coach that is willing to drag one of his players through the mud then you might as well go root for the Clippers. Rivers would be your guy. But if you want a coach with integrity then don't look to Stotts, Pops, Carlisle, Kerr, even DiAntoni not to mention a whole host of others that simply would have shut Quick down also.

But it was Stotts that suggested McCollum was making an impact in other areas beyond scoring. He initiated that. Then when Quick followed up on it, he got super defensive. If he didn’t honestly believe McCollum was making an impact in other areas, he shouldn’t have been dishonest about it. That’s not on Quick. Sorry you got caught in your bullshit.

 

[Strenuus]

Deleting posts. The ultimate reach-around from the reach-around king!

But really.... let’s be “frankly” honest.... if you start deleting off-topic posts from every thread, most threads would be left with maybe 20% of their post counts.

You know what, you're right. I should have put in a caveat: if it was personal insults on people AND off the thread topic.

 

[kjironman1]

Okay, so do you think the CJ struggles are an issue for this team? If so, is it not okay for a reporter to ask about that issue? From my view it doesn't seem like there is any accountability about it because nothing changes.

This is a fair statement.
But i wouldn't trust Quick asking questions and reporting it in a way that didn't tear the team down.
Just my take. But yes CJ's struggles are definitely an issue and should be fair game.

 

[Strenuus]

Nothing is "WRONG" with the question. What you have to think about is the next question. Stotts already knew where that line of questioning was going. If you can't see it then i guess you can't see it. I personally see exactly what Quick was working for. I have been reading the dude since he started with the Oregonian in 99-2000. It's what he does. He even proved it by going for the drop on the "Meeting later In His Office" jab. You ask a question and get an answer. The original answer by Stotts covered CJ's shooting issues and it covered making an impact. The Quick went after that course. and Stotts agreed. Then Quick decided to push for Stotts to drag his player through the mud. Stotts refused!

If you want a coach that is willing to drag one of his players through the mud then you might as well go root for the Clippers. Rivers would be your guy. But if you want a coach with integrity then don't look to Stotts, Pops, Carlisle, Kerr, even DiAntoni not to mention a whole host of others that simply would have shut Quick down also.

I talked about the "next question" in a post... If he says "he's great in these areas and impacts the game" then what does Quick say that could then make stotts say something bad?

But he didn't say that, so YES the questions stopped, BUT, there are still questions that come from him NOT answering. That's all I'm saying.

I know there's a song out there called "You say it best, when you say nothing at all" but in certain situations, it can lead to more questions.

 

[Strenuus]

lol, yes, but what would be left would be on topic. One thing I have noticed with this forum is that almost every thread ends up going sideways or completely off track. I would think mods would interject posts into threads reminding posters to stick to the topic. I have been guilty of it as well as most others have also.

Because people love being micromanaged in a place where they want to relax.

We want to treat you like adults, not the kids that are tethered in groups walking around downtown.

For the most part, people almost always go back to the topic at hand. This thread went away from the topic so aggressively and so fast it had to be done. Now we're back on topic for the most part.

 

[kjironman1]

But it was Stotts that suggested McCollum was making an impact in other areas beyond scoring. He initiated that. Then when Quick followed up on it, he got super defensive. If he didn’t honestly believe McCollum was making an impact in other areas, he shouldn’t have been dishonest about it. That’s not on Quick. Sorry you got caught in your bullshit.

No dude you are wrong! No Bullshit here bro.

Q: What do you make of CJ’s play this season?

A: [Scoffs] “I think he is giving good effort. He’s probably not shooting the ball as well as he would like, or we would like, but I think he is competing. He was guarding [Russell] Westbrook who finished with 31 points). Unfortunately for CJ, people are going to tie his play into how he’s shooting the ball. He hasn’t shot the ball as well as we expect, or he expects to … so unfortunately, I don’t think that’s the sole determinant of how he’s playing this year.”

Q: So the saying goes, “If scorers aren’t scoring the ball they have to find a way to impact the game in other areas.” Do you feel like he is impacting the game in other areas? This is Quick's Question!

A: [Five-second pause] Sure.

Q: Which areas do you feel he is making an impact?

A: I’m not going down this line with you.

 

[CupWizier]

This is a fair statement.
But i wouldn't trust Quick asking questions and reporting it in a way that didn't tear the team down.
Just my take. But yes CJ's struggles are definitely an issue and should be fair game.

I agree, but where I differentiate from some in this thread, those issues should be handled internally and not in the press as that's how locker rooms become divided and internal issues begin to magnify as like you pointed out, Quick often twists what is said to fit whatever agenda he is looking for. I wouldn't ever consider Quick a friend of the team and thus the reason he got the reaction he did from Stotts. How often does Quick ever break any big news regarding the Blazers?

 

[Scalma]

No dude you are wrong! No Bullshit here bro.

Look what Terry said before your highlighted part though:

“He hasn’t shot the ball as well as he’d like...but I don’t think that’s the sole determinant of how he’s playing this year.”

That to me (and obviously Jason) suggests he’s doing other things well, making his follow up question pretty appropriate imo.

 

[kjironman1]

It has been going on with the media well before Olshey came along. It was the peeking through the blinds during pre draft workouts and trying to read Pritchards lips while looking through bushes and even before that.

He even took a picture of the draft board as i remember?

 

[JDC]

Stotts doesn't like Quick. I think that's the only thing you can really take from this.

And asking a coach to evaluate a players season after a tough loss where the player in question struggles is pretty clearly unfair imo.

 

[CupWizier]

Because people love being micromanaged in a place where they want to relax.

We want to treat you like adults, not the kids that are tethered in groups walking around downtown.

For the most part, people almost always go back to the topic at hand. This thread went away from the topic so aggressively and so fast it had to be done. Now we're back on topic for the most part.

I don't see it as being micromanaged for a mod to step in and do a friendly reminder that posts are going off topic and that it needs to go back on topic. Mods are like refs (we hate refs, lol) and refs call fouls to keep the game in control.

 

[kjironman1]

Look what Terry said before your highlighted part though:

“He hasn’t shot the ball as well as he’d like...but I don’t think that’s the sole determinant of how he’s playing this year.”

That to me (and obviously Jason) suggests he’s doing other things well, making his follow up question pretty appropriate imo.

Okay that's a fair way to read it. I guess it could have sparked that line of thinking. He could have gone straight to it also.
But i have a built in Knee Jerk reaction to Quick in general. And i guess maybe those on the team might also.

 

[Scalma]

Okay that's a fair way to read it. I guess it could have sparked that line of thinking. He could have gone straight to it also.
But i have a built in Knee Jerk reaction to Quick in general. And i guess maybe those on the team might also.

Yeah I mean Quick doesn’t have the greatest reputation so I could see why Stotts reacted the way he did. Still doesn’t make it right imo. If only there was another reporter that would ask the same question.

 

[kjironman1]

I agree, but where I differentiate from some in this thread, those issues should be handled internally and not in the press as that's how locker rooms become divided and internal issues begin to magnify as like you pointed out, Quick often twists what is said to fit whatever agenda he is looking for. I wouldn't ever consider Quick a friend of the team and thus the reason he got the reaction he did from Stotts. How often does Quick ever break any big news regarding the Blazers?

Yeah that is another issue. What happens in practice stays in practice. What happens in the locker room stays in the locker room.

 

[jlprk]

I don't know if I've ever reported anything to a mod other than spam. I don't use the wussy button, nor does it apply to me.

I've never reported anyone and I don't know what spam would look like here. I don't even know how. If I saw any I would eat it, not give it away. You think I'm Olshey?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Stotts doesn't like Quick. I think that's the only thing you can really take from this.

And asking a coach to evaluate a players season after a tough loss where the player in question struggles is pretty clearly unfair imo.

So they can only ask for an evaluation of how a player is doing when they’re playing well or its unfair?

 

[kjironman1]

Yeah I mean Quick doesn’t have the greatest reputation so I could see why Stotts reacted the way he did. Still doesn’t make it right imo. If only there was another reporter that would ask the same question.

I honestly thought it was going to be Mike Richman but he seems to have lost favor also. As i understand he is very close to Quick.

 

[kjironman1]

So they can only ask for an evaluation of how a player is doing when they’re playing well or its unfair?

Stotts took the question. So that is an unfair assessment.

 

[kjironman1]

I don't know if I've ever reported anything to a mod other than spam. I don't use the wussy button, nor does it apply to me.

I can assure you HJ will not report you or anyone else. Now we have both been warned i think? but neither of us will report or even ignore you.

 

[riverman]

Stotts was just having his guy's back...it's how you keep a locker room healthy..or at least that's how I see it...same as taking a tech for the team.

 

[lawai'a]

although he did have five assists on Friday, just the fourth time this season he has amassed five or more assists.

how come quick doesn't mention the fact that klay thompson, also struggling , only has a single game of over 5 assists in an offensive system that produces large team assist numbers?
no drama otherwise.

 

[riverman]

I've never reported anyone and I don't know what spam would look like here. I don't even know how. If I saw any I would eat it, not give it away. You think I'm Olshey?

The trick with spam is the non stick pan

 

[Scalma]

Stotts was just having his guy's back...it's how you keep a locker room healthy..or at least that's how I see it...same as taking a tech for the team.

He fucked up though. Even if he hated Quick, it would’ve been so much easier had he given some standard media answer. By getting all defensive he inadvertently let everyone know he didn’t actually believe what he was saying about CJ.

 

[Scalma]

how come quick doesn't mention the fact that klay thompson, also struggling , only has a single game of over 5 assists in an offensive system that produces large team assist numbers?
no drama otherwise.

Klay doesn’t have the ball in his hands as much as CJ. Their roles are different. Can’t compare them.

 

[riverman]

He fucked up though. Even if he hated Quick, it would’ve been so much easier had he given some standard media answer. By getting all defensive he inadvertently let everyone know he didn’t actually believe what he was saying about CJ.

Stotts was angry before the interviews started...it was visible...he's rarely on the edge on camera.

 

[B-Roy]

Stotts doesn't like Quick. I think that's the only thing you can really take from this.

And asking a coach to evaluate a players season after a tough loss where the player in question struggles is pretty clearly unfair imo.

So when is an appropriate time to ask questions?

Fairweather reporters that do nothing but regurgitate positivity even in times of struggle provide absolutely no insight to a team.

When a team is struggling, they should be called out on it. When they're playing well, they deserve praise. I don't see anything wrong with Quick's reporting here.

 

[CupWizier]

He fucked up though. Even if he hated Quick, it would’ve been so much easier had he given some standard media answer. By getting all defensive he inadvertently let everyone know he didn’t actually believe what he was saying about CJ.

Now you are projecting your feelings into someone's actions. You have no idea how he feels about McCollum.

 

[CupWizier]

Stotts was angry before the interviews started...it was visible...he's rarely on the edge on camera.

It makes me wonder how many in this forum played a sport at a reasonable level as emotions always play a big part in a game and not a good time after a tough loss to be evaluating things as often times the wrong thing might be said. By Stotts cutting off Quick he avoided that, but then again it doesn't take the boo birds long to project anyway.

 

[lawai'a]

Klay doesn’t have the ball in his hands as much as CJ. Their roles are different. Can’t compare them.

sure you can. klay averages 18.7 shots per game, cj 18.0