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Did anyone here go to the game last night that thought that Oden's defense wasnt good? If Im not mistaken he had 3 blocks and 13 rbs. Am I missing something? Nate wants to put Przy in for better defense? WTF?
 
So our once a decade center doesn't work well with our star SG? And that's acceptable? As opposed to the coach figuring out a way to use them both effectively on the court? Kobe and Shaq worked pretty damn well together. Our answer is spread everyone out, so they can all get their stats? As I said earlier, the easiest solution is to not have an entire bench unit in at the same time.
 
Reep said:
+1.

When I heard the starting lineup before last nights game, all I could think of was how weak the second unit was going to be. Roy also struggles with Oden in. Andre and Oden seem to work well together, as would Rudy with them (but not with Roy).

This makes a lot of sense to me.
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Okay I get it. But benching Oden? Come on.
 
The one good thing is with Greg comin off the bench, the WHOLE offense can run through him! Unlimited shot attempts! Rudy and Martell can feed off of him. Anytime Greg gets doubled we have our 2 sharpshooters set outside to take wide-open 3's. It might work.
 
HispanicCausinPanic said:
What made Nate do this was the 3rd quarter last night. Blake, Rudy, Nic, Travis and Pryz got KILLED!!!!!!!!!!
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Finally. Someone that actually pays attention to the fact that basketball games are 48 minutes long, not just the first quarter...
 
HispanicCausinPanic said:
What made Nate do this was the 3rd quarter last night. Blake, Rudy, Nic, Travis and Pryz got KILLED!!!!!!!!!!
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That unit was not very good, I agree. Rudy is the lone playmaker in that group, and his back is messed up. Blake is trying to do too much and not playing his game, and Nicolas can't be depended upon offensively yet. Travis is too hit and miss, and Joel is limited. It's just not a good mix.
 
HispanicCausinPanic said:
The one good thing is with Greg comin off the bench, the WHOLE offense can run through him! Unlimited shot attempts! Rudy and Martell can feed off of him. Anytime Greg gets doubled we have our 2 sharpshooters set outside to take wide-open 3's. It might work.
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LOL ya, like Travis is going to pass him the ball?


Fuck Nate
 
Right now I am getting the same feeling in my gut as when PJ Carlesimo was the coach and thought starting Chris Dudley over Arvydas Sabonis was a good idea. On the bright side of things, we were only a coaching change away from that turning around.
 
Rudy
Martell
Outlaw

Sounds like a lot of 3pt shot attempts in the 2nd unit and not a lot for Oden. Miller is his only chance at getting the ball.
 
I'm laughing til my ribs hurt listening to Jay Allen defend this shit.
 
Jesus Christ, I still think this has to be a joke. Whatever, we know if we lose the first game or two, he'll change the starting lineup again. You must find a way to make your best players (all at different positions) play together, that's why you're the coach you fucking idiot.
 
Saying our bench unit is weak so we have to bring Oden/Miller off the bench is just ignorant, you can start Andre and Greg along with Roy and LA and have a rotation set where there's never fewer than 2 of those 4 on the floor at any given time.

Flame me for saying this but I hope Pryz elbow's Blake in the face while going after a rebound in the last preseason game and their both to sore to go for the opener...
 
HispanicCausinPanic said:
The one good thing is with Greg comin off the bench, the WHOLE offense can run through him! Unlimited shot attempts! Rudy and Martell can feed off of him. Anytime Greg gets doubled we have our 2 sharpshooters set outside to take wide-open 3's. It might work.
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There's nothing good about having what is supposed to be, and is starting to look like, A FRANCHISE CENTER COMING OFF THE BENCH... Who else does this? Nobody? Okay, now let's try to figure out why...

Regardless of how many minutes he plays, I totally disagree with Nate - It does matter who starts. Oden is just now getting confidence and he decides to crush it.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I'm laughing til my ribs hurt listening to Jay Allen defend this shit.
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"Steve Blake is a better defender than Andre Miller" - Jay Allen

haha. I mean.. Andre isn't All-NBA caliber, but that's pretty funny.
 
So what does Nate say to Miller and Greg today? Congratulations, you "won" a bench job with your play?
 
alex42083 said:
"Steve Blake is a better defender than Andre Miller" - Jay Allen

haha. I mean.. Andre isn't All-NBA caliber, but that's pretty funny.
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That's like saying a Pinto is a better car then a Pacer!
 
alex42083 said:
"Steve Blake is a better defender than Andre Miller" - Jay Allen

haha. I mean.. Andre isn't All-NBA caliber, but that's pretty funny.
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Is Steve Blake better than Andre Miller at throwing up a shot from 30 feet out when there is still 13 seconds left in a playoff game and missing? I guess he is, since you would never see Andre Miller have a brain fart like that in the first place. :ghoti:
 
noknobs said:
There's nothing good about having what is supposed to be, and is starting to look like, A FRANCHISE CENTER COMING OFF THE BENCH... Who else does this? Nobody? Okay, now let's try to figure out why...

Regardless of how many minutes he plays, I totally disagree with Nate - It does matter who starts. Oden is just now getting confidence and he decides to crush it.
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BINGO!!!!! Wrong message to send to Oden. "Hey Oden, great job this offseason and preseason but ...."
 
noknobs said:
There's nothing good about having what is supposed to be, and is starting to look like, A FRANCHISE CENTER COMING OFF THE BENCH... Who else does this? Nobody? Okay, now let's try to figure out why...

Regardless of how many minutes he plays, I totally disagree with Nate - It does matter who starts. Oden is just now getting confidence and he decides to crush it.
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Yeah, I agree about the Oden confidence thing this is ridiculous. What the hell is going on? Some kind of triumverate of Joel, Blake and Roy whining behind the scenes? KP needs to step in NOW and trade Joel and Blake and tell Roy to get it in gear.
 
Jayps15 said:
Saying our bench unit is weak so we have to bring Oden/Miller off the bench is just ignorant, you can start Andre and Greg along with Roy and LA and have a rotation set where there's never fewer than 2 of those 4 on the floor at any given time.
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Bingo. I've wanted to see this for a while now. The two unit system isn't all that effective in the NBA. I wish Nate would roll with who has the hot hand and substitute accordingly. The set substitutions drive me insane. Oden playing effectively on both ends whilst staying out of foul trouble? Przybilla in at 4:00 minutes in the the 1st (when Greg started). Nic locking down his man and making hustle plays? Outlaw in at 4:00.
 
There are a lot of NBA starters breathing a sigh of relief and a lot of NBA reserves pissed off right now.
 
MrSelfDestruct said:
Bingo. I've wanted to see this for a while now. The two unit system isn't all that effective in the NBA. I wish Nate would roll with who has the hot hand and substitute accordingly. The set substitutions drive me insane. Oden playing effectively on both ends whilst staying out of foul trouble? Przybilla in at 4:00 minutes in the the 1st (when Greg started). Nic locking down his man and making hustle plays? Outlaw in at 4:00.
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I'm seriously starting to lean towards the fire Nate camp. You take out an En Fuego Rudy vs. Houston to put in a Glacially cold Outlaw? Blake over Miller, JJack over anyone? WTF NATE?!?!?!?
 
Maybe a couple guys will get the swine flu in SLC and thin this roster out a bit!
 
What I want to know is, are there a bunch of Spurs fans who go apeshit when it's announced that Manu isn't starting? Somehow I doubt it. But but - he's their second best player!!!! How can he not be starting!? That means FOUR PLAYERS WORSE THAN HIM are in the starting lineup!!!!!!
 
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