Quinn out

[NYR31]

Fired today. Assistants Jacques Martin, David Oliver and Greg Brown also gone. Allaire stays.

 

[mrmel29]

Thank God!!

 

[kreidertime]

Yes!!!!!!!! Thank you Drury and Dolan! Players must have said, he sucks, Knoblauch was better.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

He did a good job the pst couple seasons but this team has good enough players to win now. Problem with these newer coaches is they feel like they have to win every game and play scrubs to do so with no confidence in their younger players

 

[NYR2009]

Yeah, I am excited too. I am sure players voted him out. That is why it took so long for Drury to fire Quinn. He probably wanted to make sure. My vote is either Knoblauch or Babcock. Two opposites. I am thinking probably Knoblauch #1 choice at this point. When Knoblauch coached those few games, it just felt like they played the best games of the season.

 

[NYR31]

Once JD and Gorton were gone this was the next shoe to drop, so should not come as a surprise to anyone.

I like Knoblauch but he getting the job is a long shot since Drury is likely going to go with an experienced NHL coach.

 

[NYR2009]

I agree 31, you probably right. Then it is either Torts or Babcock. My money is on Babcock.

 

[Malcom]

I'd be all for Torts coming back again but I doubt it happens.

 

[NYR Fan]

Once JD and Gorton were gone this was the next shoe to drop, so should not come as a surprise to anyone.

I like Knoblauch but he getting the job is a long shot since Drury is likely going to go with an experienced NHL coach.

This is exactly the case. Once JD and Gorton were fired this was a foregone conclusion. If they stayed Quinn would have stayed. Once they were canned Quinn was gone.

And it won't be Knoblauch. It will be a proven NHL coach from everything I have read. Torts is high on the list. Babcock on list also.

There’s likely to be a myriad of coaches interviewed. Both Tortorella and Babcock would be candidates, as could Gerard Gallant and Claude Julien. Another name that may get an interview is Patrick Roy, an old teammate of Drury’s in Colorado.

 

[NYR Fan]

From Brooks:

Gerard Gallant, Rick Tocchet, Bob Hartley, John Tortorella, Mike Babcock and Patrick Roy are among the early candidates to follow Quinn.

 

[theProdigy223]

I am shocked people would want Torts anywhere near this roster. The team is not at all built for his style and would require further significant roster moves to be effective. He ran the Columbus roster into the ground, just like he did last time he was here. Even Seth Jones is ready to get the hell out of there. The first time he benches Kakko or Laf for not blocking shots everyone will be in an uproar. He is the wrong coach for this team and his style of play is becoming less effective in today's NHL. Hard pass.

Of the mentioned candidates Gallant and Julien have the best balanced systems that could be fits with this roster. I like Gallant a lot. Keep an eye on Tocchet as well, who did good things in Arizona and has crossed paths with Drury before.

Patrick Roy has not done very much to merit serious consideration, and he was a complete lunatic during his time behidn the bench. Unless he changes his approach I'd be very reluctant to go that route.

Please no Boudreau.

 

[Ranger71]

Totally agree, I think Torts would be a big mistake with the current roster. Not big on ex-Flyer Tocchet either.

 

[NYR2009]

I agree with you Prod completely. I don't think Torts is a good choice for this roster. Torts is good for a veteran team and not young team. Tocchet has done nothing, I don't see him as a valid choice. I don't want Roy and with you on Boudreau. Boudreau and AV are the same to me, great season coaches but cannot win in the playoffs. I am not big on Gallant, never liked him.

My #1 is still Knoblauch, but I think all of you are right, they are going to go with an experienced coach and the other two that I would want is first Babcock and Julien as a second choice. A few years ago, Babcock was the league envy, everyone wanted him, and after the scandal that he is tough on some players he cooled down.

 

[theProdigy223]

A few years ago, Babcock was the league envy, everyone wanted him, and after the scandal that he is tough on some players he cooled down.

Yeah, this is a big issue with him. No denying he's a great coach and I think he's one of the best hockey minds out there. But after all that has come out about him I'd have serious concerns about whether he is the right guy for such a young team. We are probably better off to be more cautious and pass, unless Drury and company think he has shown a serious change in approach.

I never would have thought of Bob Hartley as a possibility, didnt put it together that he was Drury's coach in COL when they won the cup. Had to look him up on Wikipedia to see what he's been up to as he's been out of the league for a few years now. I dont remember much about him or his style.

It's surprising to me that Julien wasnt named in Brooks' list but that doesnt mean we wont take a look.

 

[Messiah717]

It was quite obvious Quinn wasn't sticking around. He should go back to college. I'd go with Babcock.

 

[kreidertime]

Knoblauch has always been my number 1. Honestly, I would love to see Messier as an assistant to Knoblauch. I think he needs to lower his ego a little. I also think he could get Zibanejad who is a lazy fuck in the faceoff circle to get his shit together. Messier should be an assistant coach first. Would that intimidate Knoblauch? No. I think that guy has been a winner at every level and he's calm and confident. I think Messier's fire would be a nice compliment to him.

 

[Messiah717]

Messier as an assistant would be terrible. He overshadows the head coach regardless of who it is. Then that coach is always in that shadow.

 

[NYR Fan]

Nothing I have seen or read tells me Knoblauch will be the guy. I have only seen experienced coach is the focus. We'll see though.

As for Torts, he wouldn't be my first or second choice, but I wouldn't be crazy upset if he were the guy. He is good for 4 or 5 good seasons before he wears thin.

 

[kreidertime]

Wrong. He wouldn't over shadow Knoblauch. Knoblauch has been a winner at every level. Do your research. His personality would not give a rat's ass about Messier and his play as a player. Knoblauch is a supremely confident head coach. He's not taking a back seat to anybody. That being said, like all coaches he will want to pick his own staff.

 

[NYR Fan]

Experienced proven NHL coach will be the guy based on everything I have read.

 

[Messiah717]

Wrong. He wouldn't over shadow Knoblauch. Knoblauch has been a winner at every level. Do your research. His personality would not give a rat's ass about Messier and his play as a player. Knoblauch is a supremely confident head coach. He's not taking a back seat to anybody. That being said, like all coaches he will want to pick his own staff.

You're right. You're going to bring Mark Messier in as an assistant and he will not overshadow any and everything. It's not like his jersey is hanging in the rafters or anything.

 

[kreidertime]

An elite coach with confidence doesn't give a rats ass about his assistant coaches playing careers. That's not how head coaches think. You think Keenan would give a shit about having Larry Robinson as his assistant coach? He wouldn't.

 

[Malcom]

Agreed, it wouldn't effect Knoblauch but IMO Messier never takes an assistant coaching job.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

My vote goes to Babcock. Proven winner and no BS. He’s a little crazy but that’s ok. No to Torts. We don’t need 7 goalies on the ice. He’s too much of a Dick and has a bad track record with stars (Gaborik, Laine, etc)

 

[Messiah717]

An elite coach with confidence doesn't give a rats ass about his assistant coaches playing careers. That's not how head coaches think. You think Keenan would give a shit about having Larry Robinson as his head coach? He wouldn't.

Messiee and the Rangers is a completely different situation. It would've been like having Mattingly on Torre's bench before he won four titles.

 

[Ranger71]

Messier should be an assistant in the front office and go from there.

 

[kreidertime]

I believe Messier loves the Rangers, their fans and the organization. I would like to see him be an assistant coach. Or, coach the Pack and work with the kids first. Perhaps be a GM/coach for the Pack./ Either way I'd like to see Messier finally get a job with the organization.

 

[mrmel29]

Since Dolan passed on messier twice already would be a surprise if messier hired now. Wouldn’t mind it happening but don’t see it. Torts and the 6 goalie system would be a disaster unless he brought the offensive system he had when tampa won the cup. After Toronto don’t really see Babcock. Do t want julien or bodreau. My choice would be either gallant or knoblach who has paid his dues and has won pretty much every where he’s been. He would be my assistant choice if we go that route. A fly in the ointment could be Mike Sullivan if he’s let go by the pens because Burke wants to hire his own coach.

 

[NYR Fan]

Some of the posts in this thread are sad and funny. The Quinn hating makes me laugh. Guy oversaw a team filled with the most young players in the NHL, during a self-proclaimed rebuild. Look how many kids playing under him. Look how many kids performed well under him. Look how many kids clearly improved under him. He certainly was not perfect, no coach is, but some of you are so over the top on him it's crazy.

Which leads to the next point on Knoblauch. The guy coached a handful of games, mostly against bad teams (you know the teams you give no credit to Quinn for beating), and many have him as # 1 option - talk about backup QB syndrome. Funny.

I personally think it doesn't matter who our new coach is, a large % of folks in here will knock him, call him the worst, and ask for him to be fired 3 months after he gets the job. Unless the coach does everything you guys want, and even then if it goes wrong he'll still be the worst, you guys will rip him.

Circle of life.

 

[NYR Fan]

Brooks says Gallant is the favorite right now, and Torts unlikely. Does mention Julien, Hartley, Tocchet, and a few others. Also says no on Knoblauch as Drury looking for an experienced NHL coach.

One guy I wish we could get is Rod Brind'Amour. Contract with Carolina is up at the end of the season, but I'm sure they'll get a new deal done. But if it goes sideways, he'd be my # 1 option.