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<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Quite the contrary, most kids these days are switching over to soccer. hence the top youth movement here in U20. Helped on a professional report for a foreign magazine on soccer youth a few years back. The US have potential youth comparable to last generations Italia programs. That's massive.
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I refuse to believe that. The high school basketball scene, for one, has never been more competitive.

Maybe it's growing faster than any other sport, but what's that saying? Basketball, football, and baseball are already up there in popularity. There's not much growing room for them.

I actually think baskeball is surpassing baseball in America.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I refuse to believe that. The high school basketball scene, for one, has never been more competitive.
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I agree, unless America goes through a massive surge in European immigration, I don't see soccer displacing any of the 'traditional' American sports. Not in this generation, not in the next.
 
Basketball youth in the United States has long and gone surpassed baseball youth. There are however, more baseball camps then basketball still. That however, doesn't mean anything. Soccer is growing the quickest here in the States, not worldwide. Soccer is already the world's biggest sport by far and away. For instance in reports made in Europe by attendences and other records, the World's most popular footy club Real Madrid has a larger fanbase then the entire NFL league combined. That is scary as hell. Well, you can't wonder then why this team spends around 100 million Euros every couple of months solely on transfering in new players. That's just on players though and that is considered play money. Imagine their income. You may be interested to know that while soccer is the fastest growing sport in the US, basketball is actually the fastest growing sport on a worldwide level. This is due to a massive increase in popularity in European countries as well as Asian ones since Yao's emergence.
 
Soccer is never, ever going to be a popular sports in the states
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. That talk has been going on since I can remember, it'll never dethrone the basketball, baseball, football, hell even hockey.

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I don't think it has to displace any of them to become a big thing. There's so much money in American amateur sports programs, that the US could easily become force in the world stage and build up a strong foundation without taking anything away from the existing sports. I think there's a strong soccer following among the immigrant communities in the US that doesn't get recognized or supported.

I do agree with VC about basketball surpassing baseball though. I remember reading an article a while ago about how inner-city kids that used to play baseball back in the day, just no longer do. That's why the number of African-Americans in the sport is slowly falling and a lot more talent is coming from overseas. Basketball's relatively strong throughout America and is only beginning to tap the foreign markets.
 
Baseball has become a bore amongst the black community, it's a damn shame that these kids would rather rob, steal, murder, slang crack, than play a game that takes a lot of patience and mental toughness and give themselves a chance to make something out of them. I think that's a major reason why there is such a negative feeling towards urban black youth who act like scum, well...outside of the fact that they act like scum.

I love the Latin American talent in baseball though. I just don't like how they're obtained, they're basically bought for way cheap and developed into young studs.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Legacy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Eminem, Rakim, and Dr. Dre are all coming out with new albums this year...</div>

Eminem's dropping one? Better be good...

Dr. Dre is finally going to release Detox? I've heard that for two years now, I'll believe it when I'm downloading it.

Got any links?
 
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Baseball has become a bore amongst the black community, it's a damn shame that these kids would rather rob, steal, murder, slang crack, than play a game that takes a lot of patience and mental toughness and give themselves a chance to make something out of them. I think that's a major reason why there is such a negative feeling towards urban black youth who act like scum, well...outside of the fact that they act like scum.

I love the Latin American talent in baseball though. I just don't like how they're obtained, they're basically bought for way cheap and developed into young studs.</div>
Lol, are you serious dude? Who says that they're giving up on baseball to become criminals? Most of them are just going into different sports (mainly basketball).
 
I actually think soccer will soon pass hockey. ESPN has just as many soccer analysts as they do hockey analysts these days, and the Stanley Cup had historically low ratings this year.

There are only a few cities where people care about hockey - Detroit, Boston, New York, and all the Canadian cities. Everywhere else, it's pretty much a dead sport.

That's largely due to poor marketing by the NHL. They've had some very marketable players over the years, but most Americans will never hear of them, because the NHL and their affiliates can't seem to get their names out there.

I grew up playing hockey in Detroit, my dad played collegiately, and my uncle played professionally for Philadelphia, but even I don't know more than 30 or so players in today's game, and those 30 or so I can name are all old veterans at this point. The younger stars are a mystery to me.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Eminem's dropping one? Better be good...

Dr. Dre is finally going to release Detox? I've heard that for two years now, I'll believe it when I'm downloading it.

Got any links?</div>

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I played hockey when I was in elementary school and could actually name most of the star players of the time (Pavel Bure, Selane, Kariya, Gilmore), but as I got older, I got more interested in basketball and soccer. Now, I don't know any of the younger star players aside from Jason Spezza and that kid from the Penguins (Crosby, I believe). Last I heard, Selane was like 35 years old.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Lol, are you serious dude? Who says that they're giving up on baseball to become criminals? Most of them are just going into different sports (mainly basketball).</div>

A lot of urban youth are criminals, is that not a fact? I was just pointing out the effect on baseball...I know a lot are turning to basketball and football, but it is a major reason why the black population in baseball has gone down. It's a shame though. One day, there will be no blacks in baseball it will be all whites, asians, and hispanics.
 
The NHL is just about dead IMO. Shamefully anyway, I love ice hockey. They're predicted to have another lockout due to salery disputes in 2009. If they have another season scratched lockout you can kiss that league good bye. Also, the American sports market is not trying to make soccer replace any current "big four" sport, but are rather building it into that catagory to make it equal. Unlike foreign soccer where everyone has a strongly different value and marketing/income the MLS does not.
 
Yea, hockey's fast becoming a fringe sport in the US. The Northern cities still have a strong following, but its dead anywhere else and, unfortunately, most of the NHL teams are in the American South for some stupid reason. Seriously, Gary Bettman is the most incompetent commissioner of all-time.

It'll never die though, because it'll never stop getting pushed in Canada. Basketball and soccer are among the fastest growing sports here and are the most popular among the youth, but they don't get sh*t when it comes to media coverage in Canada. I try not to watch hockey that much these days, but I can still tell you major news about the Leafs and info about most of the major prospects coming up from the junior leagues.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mamba:</div><div class="quote_post">A lot of urban youth are criminals, is that not a fact? I was just pointing out the effect on baseball...I know a lot are turning to basketball and football, but it is a major reason why the black population in baseball has gone down. It's a shame though. One day, there will be no blacks in baseball it will be all whites, asians, and hispanics.</div>
Yea, but crime among urban youth has always been a constant and it doesn't explain such a change. The reason for this major trend is because baseball is no longer relevant for kids living in the city. They don't relate to it anymore and don't play it growing up as much.
 
Out here in Southern Cal, the soccer hype is pretty dead. Hell, there's still hype from the Ducks winning everything compared to the poor hype of Beckham. Although, the Ducks hype is dying, quick.

America is about three sports and in my eyes, will be for a long long time: Baseball, Basketball, and Football.

Popularity wise, I think it'd be something like Football > Basketball > Baseball.
 
I hate the soccer fans that get too carried away...and by that, I mean murdering other fans, causing riots at games...ya know, the usual crazy soccer fan crap
 
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Popularity wise, I think it'd be something like Football > Basketball > Baseball.</div>

Nope. America still loves baseball more than basketball. Everytime they have the polls on ESPN, the NFL gets like 56%, MLB gets 23%, NBA gets 9%, NHL gets 9%, then the rest is other.
 
I was in Toronto last week and it would have been cool to attend one of the U-20 World Cup games being held there.

I was on the subway with my cousin and at almost every station after the match, there was a gigantic rush of people (lots of kids) with jerseys and face paintings. Reminded me of last year, when all you'd see on the (downtown) streets was random honkings and cars with flags on them.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I hate the soccer fans that get too carried away...and by that, I mean murdering other fans, causing riots at games...ya know, the usual crazy soccer fan crap</div>

Those are called Ultras.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Legacy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nope. America still loves baseball more than basketball. Everytime they have the polls on ESPN, the NFL gets like 56%, MLB gets 23%, NBA gets 9%, NHL gets 9%, then the rest is other.</div>

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Maybe a lot of Canadian readers decided to vote in that poll as well? Otherwise, that's kind of a wierd statistic, I thought hockey was much less liked in the States than basketball.
 
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<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I hate the soccer fans that get too carried away...and by that, I mean murdering other fans, causing riots at games...ya know, the usual crazy soccer fan crap</div>
Yea, I know what you're talking about. There's a whole subculture of ultras in Europe that just tarnishes a great sport, IMO. M2One can tell you a lot more about those idiots.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Karma Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
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Maybe a lot of Canadian readers decided to vote in that poll as well? Otherwise, that's kind of a wierd statistic, I thought hockey was much less liked in the States than basketball.</div>

That's what I thought as well...
 
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yea, I know what you're talking about. There's a whole subculture of ultras in Europe that just tarnishes a great sport, IMO. M2One can tell you a lot more about those idiots.</div>

Yeah, I did reports on them for a magazine too a while back when those big riots started in Ireland. As much as I love the sport, those pricks are giving it a really bad name. It is disgusting to think a while back that over a hand goal by the opposing team (Palermo) the Catania fans go out and start fires and kill a police officier for no apparent reason. There's so much more that never hits the news, such as the racism. Anyone who thinks racism is bad in the US, you have to get out more. Europe has so much crap that goes unnoticed.
 
<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, I did reports on them for a magazine too a while back when those big riots started in Ireland. As much as I love the sport, those pricks are giving it a really bad name. It is disgusting to think a while back that over a hand goal by the opposing team (Palermo) the Catania fans go out and start fires and kill a police officier for no apparent reason. There's so much more that never hits the news, such as the racism. Anyone who thinks racism is bad in the US, you have to get out more. Europe has so much crap that goes unnoticed.</div>

I remember reading something with Thierry Henry about the astonishing amount of racism black soccer players face in opposing cities in the EPL, and I'm assuming, in other leagues as well.
 
<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldn't hold any information highly that you get from ESPN.</div>

Lol, no kidding. I think Mamba has the order right with football > basketball > baseball. That's not how I'd rank them personally though. My list would go something like basketball > hockey and soccer > football >>>>> baseball.

You couldn't pay me to sit through a baseball game.

There's all this talk about U-20. My friend was training with the U-18 this summer. Are they any good too? He plays for Santa Clara as a rising sophomore. We used to go on bud-runs together every Friday. Good times...
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting M Two One:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, I did reports on them for a magazine too a while back when those big riots started in Ireland. As much as I love the sport, those pricks are giving it a really bad name. It is disgusting to think a while back that over a hand goal by the opposing team (Palermo) the Catania fans go out and start fires and kill a police officier for no apparent reason. There's so much more that never hits the news, such as the racism. Anyone who thinks racism is bad in the US, you have to get out more. Europe has so much crap that goes unnoticed.</div>
Yea man. European racism can get downright disgusting. An uncle of mine writes for a magazine called Searchlight and the stories he comes back with are just unbelievable at times.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Kidd Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Decided to hijack this thread. Swish inspired me to do this.

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