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I almost just fell asleep at my desk.......

I'm starting to really feel like a slacker....I mean it's understandable on the weekends because no one is here and it's slow....but I've never done it during the weekdays when it's suppose to be busy.....scanning in documents and uploading them to the computer gets reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally stale after a while...I think it's about time have a talk with my manager so I can start doing new things, because this is just boring right now

Real talk......all I do most of the day is catch the phones occasionally (our main receptionist really takes care of that), scan some documents, and sit up here and talk to you guys..there are some days where I run a few errands or file away files, but it's nothing that I can't handle.....I know this job is just supposed to hold me over until I get out of school in another year or so, but I just want to do more, because I feel like I can...oh well maybe I'm just bitching and just need to be content until I actually start doing something related to my career.
 
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EDIT: A video of NBA fights.

Lol, Carter and T-Mac are really bad.

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<div class="quote_poster">Sasha Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Instead of praying to some thing that hasn't been proven, refer to reason and logic to get through your trials and tribulations. It might seem harsh, but then again religion is the weak man's ally anyways.</div>

Disagree. Being religious doesn't automatically make you weak, it may even make a lot of people stronger if they have strong faith. Do you think Martin Luther King was weak? Thats the whole point of faith, its inner strength and belief even though theres no definite proof and when everything is going against you. People like you think its stupid and ridicule it but it helps a lot of people out whether its true or not.

Why does it even matter if its real or not? It helps some people out a lot. Ignorance is bliss and sometimes I often envy people who have that sort of faith and blind hope even when everything sucks for them.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Bahir Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">People are idiots. That's why I stick with Seinfeld, Monty Python and affiliates, and other older stuff when it comes to comedy shows.</div>

I hear ya man. I just got the Mr. Show entire collection on DVD. That was a great show. I don't know if any of you have seen it but it was a sketch show in the 90's. Here's one of their sketches:
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<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Instead of praying to some thing that hasn't been proven, refer to reason and logic to get through your trials and tribulations. It might seem harsh, but then again religion is the weak man's ally anyways.</div>

anyone who has lived can tell you "reason and logic" can't get you through everything, because we as humans have limitations.....trying to do everything for yourself can get you in some big trouble.
 
Plus, not all prayer is meant to ask for something. Sometimes I pray just to get away from it all and get a peaceful state of mind. That can help me stay level-headed and content in way that reason and logic never could (not saying reason and logic are unnecessary, just saying they don't solve everything).

btw, DREAM check your PM box.
 
Thanks for all your comments to my rant from before guys. Much appreciated.
 
My cousins heading over to the U.S. soon and I asked him to bring me back some LRG. Any of you know the price range of LRG clothing, cause its ridiculously expensive here.
 
<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Did you ever get that LRG skeleton hoody Iggy?</div>

Nah, I decided not to waste the money. He sold it to some other guy.
 
<div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm gone for 3 days and the forum seems so different.</div>

How so? I think it could be on account of NTC. He's weird as hell. Shh.. don't let him know.
 
<div class="quote_poster">M Two One Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">How so? I think it could be on account of NTC. He's weird as hell. Shh.. don't let him know.</div>

Me. Weird? Thats unpossible.

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Man, I wished I could have stayed in L.A. with my cousins longer.
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I hate saying bye then having to wait a while before seeing them again. Now I'm back at home with nothing to do.
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I envy those with religion. I envy their innocence and their naivety. Life without God is life without purpose, without meaning, and without morals.

It's depressing, but existence is meaningless otherwise.

I want religion. I'm just too much of a nihilist to bring myself to accept it.
 
I just dont see why people cant believe in themselves, have faith in themselves, rather than this "thing" that doesnt exist.

Believe you can be a good person, have faith that you will lead a good life, dont have faith in somthing else that isnt going to help you in anyway shape or form, that doesnt exist.
 
<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I just dont see why people cant believe in themselves, have faith in themselves, rather than this "thing" that doesnt exist.

Believe you can be a good person, have faith that you will lead a good life, dont have faith in somthing else that isnt going to help you in anyway shape or form, that doesnt exist.</div>

It's because you're still deriving these concepts of self-actualization from organized religion. What is a "good person," and what is a "good life"? Morality is defined by religion, and without religion, morality becomes subjective.
 
Man, my deltoids are killing me right now, did a killer shoulder / tricep workout today, I'm doing 17.5kg dumbells on shoulder press now
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I'm going to start doing 'clean & press' on my next shoulder work out I think, I'm looking forward to it since I've never done it before.
 
<div class="quote_poster">NTC Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I just dont see why people cant believe in themselves, have faith in themselves, rather than this "thing" that doesnt exist.

Believe you can be a good person, have faith that you will lead a good life, dont have faith in somthing else that isnt going to help you in anyway shape or form, that doesnt exist.</div>

Well a lot of people believe in God because of their own personal experiences (not necessarily because they read the Bible and felt like believing in God). You may have felt you haven't come across him but that is another issue. I just feel it isn't appropriate to take the Bible literally or ignore evolution and such. The problem with religion is how fanatical some people can be.

Chutney and I do not hold the same religious beliefs, but he has a very deep understanding of other religions and why God's motives cannot be encompassed in the human brain. Just something I observed.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Why does it even matter if its real or not? It helps some people out a lot. Ignorance is bliss and sometimes I often envy people who have that sort of faith and blind hope even when everything sucks for them.</div>
I just don't understand how people sidestep facts in search of a blind faith. You're lying to yourself just to comfort your ego. Life's gonna suck at times, that's what makes it beautiful. The balance of life, the good and evil, the happy and sad is what makes it such an amazing journey.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">Plus, not all prayer is meant to ask for something. Sometimes I pray just to get away from it all and get a peaceful state of mind. That can help me stay level-headed and content in way that reason and logic never could (not saying reason and logic are unnecessary, just saying they don't solve everything).</div>
There's also meditation, nature, and of course drugs. All harmonious, divine things that help you reach a state of mind that encourages peace without having to lie to you and boost your ego. Rather, the opposite.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC:</div><div class="quote_post">I just dont see why people cant believe in themselves, have faith in themselves, rather than this "thing" that doesnt exist.

Believe you can be a good person, have faith that you will lead a good life, dont have faith in somthing else that isnt going to help you in anyway shape or form, that doesnt exist.</div>
Thank you. Be your own person, your own God in a sense. Know that we are all connected and enjoy that. Enjoy the harmony and dissonance and invite it into your life equally. To sidestep the negative things in life because some book says it's bad is to not experience life in it's fullest and most wonderful form.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VC:</div><div class="quote_post">It's because you're still deriving these concepts of self-actualization from organized religion. What is a "good person," and what is a "good life"? Morality is defined by religion, and without religion, morality becomes subjective.</div>
If you let it do that to you, and take things in their widely-accepted form, then it overtakes you and makes you believe those things. Morality is not defined by religion, because religion is made up. If anything religion is defined by morality (which we are born with and come to develop moreso with our intuitiveness and logic and reason).

You gotta strip yourself of a belief system and the accepted status quo of what is acceptable and what is not to actually conquer the idea of the existence of morality. Otherwise, you're blinded by such things as religion, governmental influences, etc.

Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we're going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities: the political, the religious, the educational authorities, who have attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations. Informing, forming in our minds their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable open-mindedness-- chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself. -- Timothy Leary

In that sense, you strip yourself to your bare survival instinct and build upon yourself with pure, unfiltered thoughts of what morality truly is. There is no purer way to do that than to observe nature.

To think morality is defined by religion is to be ignorant and not take in the whole spectrum of what it could be. Just because religion rules the world, does not make it right or even true...

A belief, however necessary it may be for the preservation of a species, has nothing to do with truth. The falseness of a judgment is not for us necessarily an objection to a judgment. The question is to what extent it is life-promoting, life-preserving, species preserving, perhaps even species cultivating. To recognize untruth as a condition of life--that certainly means resisting accustomed value feelings in a dangerous way; and a philosophy that risks this would by that token alone place itself beyond good and evil.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sasha:</div><div class="quote_post">There's also meditation, nature, and of course drugs. All harmonious, divine things that help you reach a state of mind that encourages peace without having to lie to you and boost your ego. Rather, the opposite.</div>
How does the type of prayer I described boost the ego and lie to you? If anything, its almost the same thing as meditation (in a lot of the Indic religions, the two are synonymous). That level-headedness and contentment I try to achieve when I pray is the opposite of being egotistical.
 
Because you pray to some holy entity, that does not exist. It doesn't so much boost your ego (I was wrong there), as it makes you lie to yourself to feel comfortable and fearless of whatever you're praying for/about. If you want to get rid of some kind of fear or some kind of negative energy, then do so with your own relationship to yourself and the world, not some unexplained phenomena we label as God.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Sasha Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Morality is not defined by religion, because religion is made up. If anything religion is defined by morality (which we are born with and come to develop moreso with our intuitiveness and logic and reason).

You gotta strip yourself of a belief system and the accepted status quo of what is acceptable and what is not to actually conquer the idea of the existence of morality. Otherwise, you're blinded by such things as religion, governmental influences, etc.

Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we're going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities: the political, the religious, the educational authorities, who have attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations. Informing, forming in our minds their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable open-mindedness-- chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself. -- Timothy Leary

In that sense, you strip yourself to your bare survival instinct and build upon yourself with pure, unfiltered thoughts of what morality truly is. There is no purer way to do that than to observe nature.

To think morality is defined by religion is to be ignorant and not take in the whole spectrum of what it could be. Just because religion rules the world, does not make it right or even true...

A belief, however necessary it may be for the preservation of a species, has nothing to do with truth. The falseness of a judgment is not for us necessarily an objection to a judgment. The question is to what extent it is life-promoting, life-preserving, species preserving, perhaps even species cultivating. To recognize untruth as a condition of life--that certainly means resisting accustomed value feelings in a dangerous way; and a philosophy that risks this would by that token alone place itself beyond good and evil.</div>

Swiss psychologist Jean Piaget probably went the most in-depth of any researcher in determining the root of morality. As Piaget observed, a child is born heteronomous, meaning that its morality is based on "do's" and "don'ts." At this stage, a child is completely devoid of independant thinking and only bases their actions on potential consequences. This stems from the child's cognitive structure being rooted in egocentrism. They value the rules, but they don't value the purpose of the rules (hence young kids caring more about being caught doing something 'wrong' than the 'wrong' act itself). As a child grows and learns, they adapt to their surroundings and what are societal norms. It is not until the child reaches the formal operational stage of cognitive development (usually around age 11 until adulthood) that they are able to think abstractly, and by that time, morality has already been formed.

So the question then becomes, where do the societal norms stem from? I think it's innate in the sense that it's evolutionary and was passed down to us by our ancestors to maintain order as a species, more often than not, in the form of religion.

We were all born without a set of morals though, meaning morality, without God, is subjective.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sasha:</div><div class="quote_post">Because you pray to some holy entity, that does not exist. It doesn't so much boost your ego (I was wrong there), as it makes you lie to yourself to feel comfortable and fearless of whatever you're praying for/about. If you want to get rid of some kind of fear or some kind of negative energy, then do so with your own relationship to yourself and the world, not some unexplained phenomena we label as God.</div>
No, I don't really agree with that either. I'm not lying to myself about reality, so much as I'm trying to find a sense of calmness so I can go deal with everyday life in a more clear-headed state. I mean, you might even say that my prayers help me become more logical/reasonable, instead of getting caught up in desires/emotions. And if it takes a belief in some sort of unknowable power (be it God, karma, nature, etc.) to achieve that state of mind, then so be it.
 
Are you not relying on some being "hearing" your words in an order to find that peace though? If not, then I could pray to the Wendy's cup sitting next to me and treat it the same way.

People pray, because they want to be heard. Prayer is selfish. In that sense, it's very egocentric. If you don't want to be heard but still find peace, then why pray when you can just take a stroll in a forest, or meditate.

Do you understand what I'm getting at. People that pray, want to find a connection with something/someone else to help them out with their thoughts and feelings. That's the main problem I find with a lot of people, their not independent with their thoughts and feelings. They rely on outside influences too much. Thus, the fear aspect.

VC, I'll get back to yours later on.
I gotta get ready for work.
Though, Erik Erikson > Jean Piaget.
 
Umm I'm not all that religious, i believe in Jesus the holy spirit etc, but i have a real strong faith in God, and Jesus. The reason is because how my life has been. My parent's gave up their whole lives to come to America, and times where tough for them (i was only 2-7). The only thing holding my mom together is her belief that God would make everything better. i went from living in a project building to my parents making over 6 figures in less than 10 years. Also i only had one person close to me die, and several real close to death. And i feel that God is why all this happened. I believe God helped my parents through the tough times and my family members who were close to death. I've also had plenty of times where i felt as if i wanted to just crack and give up on something but i felt this power in me to continue wheather its studying for a test, or something more difficult. And when i do something i know i shouldnt i feel a sense of guilt that i did something wrong in God's eyes. I feel as if God has looked over me and helped me and my loved ones and i betrayed him in some waywhen i do something wrong. And i quote this from a song, When times get tough everyone speaks to God, weather you believe in him or not. I feel everyone will have a chance to accept God weather they are born athiest or grow to be athest something in your life will come up where you need that strength and then you have the chance in believing in God
 
Sasha, I'll respond a little later. In the meantime:

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Homer: Left Below! were have I heard that before?

Lisa: It's the title of the movie

Homer: It's everywhere!


Lol, good post Chutney. Way to show everyone that when you watch the Simpsons, religon is funny.
 
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