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Just saw the video on MLB, shocked to see that Gomes did not blind side anyone.
 
I understand the Red Sox are frustrated but stuff like that just makes the sport look bad.
 
It does, especially as bad as the Bosox are playing now....even worse. No amount of brawls can light a big enough bon fire under their asses to finish at .400 ball, (I hope).

Feed 'em to the gators next go round in Tampa, no one will miss the Sox team less the Beantown mob. Then again, glue beards on most replacement faces, and they'll never know their team was dinner for Floridian Gators. Ah gumbo.....
 
...just got home and saw the replay...what exactly was Boston's problem with Escobar stealing 3B?...It was still only the 7th inning and Boston is more than capable of scoring 5 runs in 2 innings.

...I guess this falls under one of those inane "unwritten rules"?...not surprised to see that Gomes was actually the one who escalated things...wasn't it him who blind-sided Shelly Duncan or someone during a freakin' ST game several years ago?



...Boston, here's a tip; If you don't want the other team to steal 3B and score any more runs, regardless of the score, don't let them reach first base. There's no "mercy rule" in MLB, you play the game out to its entirety.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...just got home and saw the replay...what exactly was Boston's problem with Escobar stealing 3B?...It was still only the 7th inning and Boston is more than capable of scoring 5 runs in 2 innings.

...I guess this falls under one of those inane "unwritten rules"?...not surprised to see that Gomes was actually the one who escalated things...wasn't it him who blind-sided Shelly Duncan or someone during a freakin' ST game several years ago?



...Boston, here's a tip; If you don't want the other team to steal 3B and score any more runs, regardless of the score, don't let them reach first base. There's no "mercy rule" in MLB, you play the game out to its entirety.
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There was a smart coach who had the person answer when asked about stuff like this. He said if the other team promises to not score anymore than so will we. That being said in this case their anger was ridiculous because yes it was only a 5 run lead. If it was 15-2 in the seventh ok I see their point.
 
AJ Piersznski started chirping after the base was stolen and that ignited the ruckus. I guess Gomes got tossed for being mouth but he didn't hit anyone, too big a crowd I guess. The video I saw was brief with comments interjected by MLB Staff. Probably get a better video on quick pitch or reading the game recap.
 
Messiah717 said:
There was a smart coach who had the person answer when asked about stuff like this. He said if the other team promises to not score anymore than so will we. That being said in this case their anger was ridiculous because yes it was only a 5 run lead. If it was 15-2 in the seventh ok I see their point.
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...exactly.

...and yeah, when I first read that there was a "brawl" and then saw AJ jawing with Molina, I figured that's where it started...then they showed Escobar jawing with Ross who was in the dugout...then Gomes comes flying in from LF.

...since I'm handing out tips for Boston, here's 2 more for Gomes and Ross. Both of you are marginal players at best and you're lucky to have jobs at all. And especially to Ross, if you really wanna help your team, stop trying to act like some kind of bad ass who hides behind the dugout screen, and instead try to improve on your abysmal offensive numbers. ( .167 .224 .315 .539 )
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
AJ Piersznski started chirping after the base was stolen and that ignited the ruckus. I guess Gomes got tossed for being mouth but he didn't hit anyone, too big a crowd I guess. The video I saw was brief with comments interjected by MLB Staff. Probably get a better video on quick pitch or reading the game recap.
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...actually Gomes did rush in and push Escobar in kind of a cheap shot sort of way, which is what caused the benches to empty, and why he was ejected.
 
Gomes looked to me like he wanted to get a cheap shot in. Didn't do it but it was pretty pathetic.
 
The Red Sox and Rays seem to get into a lot of dust ups. Anyone remember when Gerald Williams punched out Pedro Martinez?
 
I can tell you from experience that the Red Sox and especially their fans are not well liked at Tropicana.
 
The final score was 8-5. What was the problem with the Rays trying to score as many runs as possible?
 
Messiah717 said:
The Red Sox and Rays seem to get into a lot of dust ups. Anyone remember when Gerald Williams punched out Pedro Martinez?
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...lol...yeah, I remember that...pretty funny actually.

...not sure who looks silliest when trying to throw punches, Baseball players or Basketball players...both remind me of girls trying to fight.
 
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Messiah717 said:
The final score was 8-5. What was the problem with the Rays trying to score as many runs as possible?
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...gotta believe most of it is frustration on Boston's part...if they were not facing losing their 10th game in a row, I doubt it would have happened.
 
Not that I'm encouraging brawls in MLB, to me they are a necessary part of the NHL.

My own favorite brawl, was of course, when Robin Ventura the young buck charged the Old Man of the mound, the King of Chin Music, Nolan Ryan, and Ventura had his face punched several times in Nolan's headlock, got taught a few pointers from the old man, like stay the f'k in the batters box....or the old man will whip your ass....
 
...and let's not forget this one;

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yankeesince59 said:
...and let's not forget this one;

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Pedro was a total pussy & Rameriz keeping that bat in his hand after Clemens RIGHTFULLY threw at him was also bush. Look, I honestly believe that much of this needs to be handled like they do in basketball. In basketball if you leave the bench during an altercation you get fined. In baseball IMO any player who leaves the dugout OR the bullpen during an altercation should be fined. This way you keep in on the field & avoid a 50 player brawl. JMO.
 
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...yeah, but the thing is, what if players from the other side come out of the dugout anyway...you can't just sit in your own dugout and watch one of your guys get the shit beat out of him and say to yourself, "Fuck it, I'm staying here because I don't wanna get fined/suspended"....you gotta have your team mates' backs... and personally, I'd much rather do that and then gladly pay the fine.

...not sure, but I think part of the reason they have that leaving the bench rule in basketball is because the fans are in such close proximity to the players, when other players leave the bench and get involved, it sometimes spills over into the crowd.
 
Injury-plagued teams can't afford to lose warm bodies to suspensions, now they truly are snake bit.

The Curse of the Pine Tar!
 
yankeesince59 said:
...yeah, but the thing is, what if players from the other side come out of the dugout anyway...you can't just sit in your own dugout and watch one of your guys get the shit beat out of him and say to yourself, "Fuck it, I'm staying here because I don't wanna get fined/suspended"....you gotta have your team mates' backs... and personally, I'd much rather do that and then gladly pay the fine.

...not sure, but I think part of the reason they have that leaving the bench rule in basketball is because the fans are in such close proximity to the players, when other players leave the bench and get involved, it sometimes spills over into the crowd.
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Okay Ron good point so alright, dugouts are one thing but pitchers coming in from the bullpen. Bullshit. Unless you're actually in the line up your ass is getting fined if you step on that field. How about that?
 
Why do we need more rules? There are already consequences, they can use replay to get all the bad actors in the brouhaha, hand out fines/suspensions. These things are pretty infrequent as it is.

Explain to me the knee-jerk response to immediately want to impose more rules and controls?
 
totus44 said:
Why do we need more rules? There are already consequences, they can use replay to get all the bad actors in the brouhaha, hand out fines/suspensions. These things are pretty infrequent as it is.

Explain to me the knee-jerk response to immediately want to impose more rules and controls?
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No big deal, during an on field altercation if you leave the BULLPEN you get fined. Its 20 less players on the field & lets face it, a pitcher is the last one you want to see get hurt. I'd vote for such a rule in a heartbeat.
 
Rick2583 said:
No big deal, during an on field altercation if you leave the BULLPEN you get fined. Its 20 less players on the field & lets face it, a pitcher is the last one you want to see get hurt. I'd vote for such a rule in a heartbeat.
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Again, these things are so infrequent. A fine isn't going to stop a symbol of team unity...you aren't thinking from locker room perspective. You are speaking like a nanny control freak.
 
How about shock collars on all players on and off the field. With who in control of those remotes....fans or umps....LMAO.....!!!
 
totus44 said:
Again, these things are so infrequent. A fine isn't going to stop a symbol of team unity...you aren't thinking from locker room perspective. You are speaking like a nanny control freak.
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Here, let me make this REAL simple, EXAMPLE: An altercation breaks out on the field, the bullpen coach says...S T A Y ! no fines, no possible injuries to the pitches & like I said 20-22 less players on the field. What you refer to as nanny control could better be called a pre-emptive strike to avoid any unnecessary injuries to the pitchers. regardless of how infrequent it happens.
 
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