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Samuel said:
Don’t forget Ratliff was part of that deal; he was a key part in the PritchSlap that got Portland the Roy pick.
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and thus started the multi-year saga of what Portland was going to get for RLEC

answer: bupkis
 
The big question, for me, is will Portland acquire a single breathing active player in the Dame trade that will be on the team in 4-5 years? Or will it merely be salary ballast and picks?
 
Samuel said:
The big question, for me, is will Portland acquire a single breathing active player in the Dame trade that will be on the team in 4-5 years? Or will it merely be salary ballast and picks?
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in the modern NBA, 4-5 years is too long a timeline. Too many variables over too many seasons.
 
wizenheimer said:
in the modern NBA, 4-5 years is too long a timeline. Too many variables over too many seasons.
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You think Utah is moving off of Kessler in 4-5 years? I don’t.

Portland will indeed slough a bunch of players and get picks. Getting one actual player isn’t too much to ask.
 
Samuel said:
You think Utah is moving off of Kessler in 4-5 years? I don’t.

Portland will indeed slough a bunch of players and get picks. Getting one actual player isn’t too much to ask.
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obviously, Portland won't be moving off of Scoot and Sharpe soon either

but rookie scale isn't the same as all the other players. Portland will be getting some vets from a Dame trade and those won't be coming locked up for 7-8 years like Scoot and Sharpe on a rookie scale. Ant & Nurk only have 3 years left on their deals. Grant has a player option at 4 years

what is the pool of "actual" players you see Portland picking from? Lowry is an expiring contract; Herro has 4 years remaining but almost everybody around here doesn't want him (I'd take him over Ant); Caleb Martin has 2 years left, the same as Ben Simmons; Dinwiddie is an expiring; Siakam and OG are expiring contracts.
 
wizenheimer said:
obviously, Portland won't be moving off of Scoot and Sharpe soon either

but rookie scale isn't the same as all the other players. Portland will be getting some vets from a Dame trade and those won't be coming locked up for 7-8 years like Scoot and Sharpe on a rookie scale. Ant & Nurk only have 3 years left on their deals. Grant has a player option at 4 years

what is the pool of "actual" players you see Portland picking from? Lowry is an expiring contract; Herro has 4 years remaining but almost everybody around here doesn't want him (I'd take him over Ant); Caleb Martin has 2 years left, the same as Ben Simmons; Dinwiddie is an expiring; Siakam and OG are expiring contracts.
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- get 1 piece
- get movable/expiring filler
- get picks

Miami heat fans seem perplexed about what Joe is looking for. He’s spelled it out pretty clearly.
 
Strenuus said:
Forgive me, I'm really tired, and I feel like I've asked this already but entertain me. What is the path that works better, realistically, for our team?
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trading Ant's horrible defense for future draft picks & hiring a better head coach?
 
Samuel said:
- get 1 piece
- get movable/expiring filler
- get picks

Miami heat fans seem perplexed about what Joe is looking for. He’s spelled it out pretty clearly.
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problem is that the only "piece" Miami has to move is Herro, and the Blazers don't want him. Caleb Martin is their next best piece. Robinson is negative value
 
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