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Going back into what else we're missing:

With Lebron/Kawhi/PG all in our path in the west, and Giannis/KD/Simmons/Butler in the east, a versatile wing defender seems to be a glaring weakness on our roster right now. For all their faults, Harkless and Aminu were two of our better defenders and we have effectively replaced them with Hood and Bazemore. Even ET was useful against Harden/Millsap etc on occasion. Baze is good enough to battle guys like Harden, but the LA trio are just too big for him. Hood doesn't have the speed or strength to defend much. Little isn't ready yet.

This defender isn't available in FA anymore. And Gallo isn't the answer either.

Really wonder if CHI would part with Porter. Jerami Grant woulda been perfect. Coulda defended 2-4 well.
 
illmatic99 said:
Going back into what else we're missing:

With Lebron/Kawhi/PG all in our path in the west, and Giannis/KD/Simmons/Butler in the east, a versatile wing defender seems to be a glaring weakness on our roster right now. For all their faults, Harkless and Aminu were two of our better defenders and we have effectively replaced them with Hood and Bazemore. Baze is good enough to battle guys like Harden, but the LA trio are just too big for him. Hood doesn't have the speed or strength to defend much. Little isn't ready yet.

This defender isn't available in FA anymore. And Gallo isn't the answer either.

Really wonder if CHI would part with Porter. Jerami Grant woulda been perfect. Coulda defended 2-4 well.
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Of all the potentially available pieces that have been discussed, it seems Robert Covington is the best possible fit for this role. NO clue what it would take to get him though.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Of all the potentially available pieces that have been discussed, it seems Robert Covington is the best possible fit for this role. NO clue what it would take to get him though.
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I really wish we had more guys making 6-12 mil to use in trades. RoCo is a good one.
 
illmatic99 said:
I really wish we had more guys making 6-12 mil to use in trades. RoCo is a good one.
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Baze/Skal/Trent for RoCo/Dieng or Baze/Zach for RoCo/Dieng both work. I assume both of those are seen in this forum as overpays on our part, but are they really?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Baze/Skal/Trent for RoCo/Dieng or Baze/Zach for RoCo/Dieng both work. I assume both of those are seen in this forum as overpays on our part, but are they really?
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I'm not including Zach in a deal for RoCo, the first one-- sure.

Minny has a ton of wings. Covington/Wiggins/Culver/Okogie/Layman/KBD. Something has to give.
 
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It's kind of disappointing when looking at trades because of this. We had a few good sized contracts for trades previously, in Harkless, leonard, Aminu. Now, it's basically over 20 or under 5.
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Even re-signing Layman for a 1+1 around 5-7 mil/yr woulda been useful simply as a trade chip for the deadline. I suppose they did that with Hood.
 
illmatic99 said:
Even re-signing Layman for a 1+1 around 5-7 mil/yr woulda been useful simply as a trade chip for the deadline. I suppose they did that with Hood.
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Yes but doesn't Hood have a no-trade clause because of the type of Bird rights?
 
TBpup said:
Yes but doesn't Hood have a no-trade clause because of the type of Bird rights?
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I think that was only last season because he was playing for his QO

Now Hood has an early-bird contract and Portland owns those rights. Pretty sure those would transfer in a trade
 
Mozgov going back to Russia. Rockets want Tyson Chandler.

Sign Joakim already!!
 
His name has been mentioned before but I also wouldn’t mind Sefolosha. He’s old but still grades out very well defensively, is a good rebounder for his position, and can knock down a three. I wouldn’t even be opposed to him starting and playing 15-20 minutes a night.

A lot of people would love to add Iggy, well Sefolosha isn’t a bad alternative either.

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PtldPlatypus said:
Of all the potentially available pieces that have been discussed, it seems Robert Covington is the best possible fit for this role. NO clue what it would take to get him though.
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Simons. They need a PG bad. We don't really have any more available salaries to match though.
 
Hell no to trading Simons for RoCo. I truly think Hood is a better, albeit different, player than Covington and that we're all going to be surprised at how well Kent Bazemore fits in. I'm all for upgrading the roster but let's not Petro for Walter Davis or Jeramine for Dale Davis this thing up!
 
HolyBackboard said:
Hell no to trading Simons for RoCo. I truly think Hood is a better, albeit different, player than Covington and that we're all going to be surprised at how well Kent Bazemore fits in. I'm all for upgrading the roster but let's not Petro for Walter Davis or Jeramine for Dale Davis this thing up!
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Agreed but not worried that is will happen. The only way Neil is moving Ant is if it returns an all star type player who is in his prime. Neither RoCo or KLove would meet that requirement IMO. AD of course would have.
 
I kept thinking we had some guys targeted and were waiting for one of them to get desperate enough to accept a minimum contract; but now it seems there is nobody left. I suspect Diallo is wanting to go back to Pelicans and is negotiating with them?
 
Here is somebody's top 8 left.
1. Kenneth Faried
He hasn’t adjusted to the offensive or defensive ways of modern bigs, but his physicality and interior presence is still effective in spot minutes. He revived his career a bit in Houston last year, scoring 13 points with eight rebounds in 24 minutes.

2. Thabo Sefolosha
Sefolosha is a good defensive guard who can fit into any rotation. He averaged a steal in 12 minutes last year, and added four points and three rebounds.

3. Cheick Diallo
Diallo is only 22 and showed promise with New Orleans. He averaged six points with four rebounds on 62 percent shooting last year. Take a chance on Cheick.

4. Nene
At 36, he’s nearing the end of his career, but he was still effective in very limited minutes with Houston last year. He’s a good pickup as a last-resort option for a competitive team.

5. Pau Gasol
Gasol’s season ended early after he had surgery on his foot to repair a stress fracture. And he’s 36 years old. But when healthy, he was still fine last season, averaging four points and four rebounds in 12 minutes.

6. Jonas Jerebko
Jerebko can shoot from deep, making 37 percent of his three attempts per game for the Warriors. Add him for bench depth.

7. Dante Cunningham
Cunningham’s offense isn’t stellar, but defensively, he’s pretty good. He also made 30-of-65 threes he took last year, so maybe he can take (and make) more elsewhere.

8. Nik Stauskas
I’ll never give up on someone who can shoot.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Here is somebody's top 8 left.
1. Kenneth Faried
He hasn’t adjusted to the offensive or defensive ways of modern bigs, but his physicality and interior presence is still effective in spot minutes. He revived his career a bit in Houston last year, scoring 13 points with eight rebounds in 24 minutes.

2. Thabo Sefolosha
Sefolosha is a good defensive guard who can fit into any rotation. He averaged a steal in 12 minutes last year, and added four points and three rebounds.

3. Cheick Diallo
Diallo is only 22 and showed promise with New Orleans. He averaged six points with four rebounds on 62 percent shooting last year. Take a chance on Cheick.

4. Nene
At 36, he’s nearing the end of his career, but he was still effective in very limited minutes with Houston last year. He’s a good pickup as a last-resort option for a competitive team.

5. Pau Gasol
Gasol’s season ended early after he had surgery on his foot to repair a stress fracture. And he’s 36 years old. But when healthy, he was still fine last season, averaging four points and four rebounds in 12 minutes.

6. Jonas Jerebko
Jerebko can shoot from deep, making 37 percent of his three attempts per game for the Warriors. Add him for bench depth.

7. Dante Cunningham
Cunningham’s offense isn’t stellar, but defensively, he’s pretty good. He also made 30-of-65 threes he took last year, so maybe he can take (and make) more elsewhere.

8. Nik Stauskas
I’ll never give up on someone who can shoot.
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Did I miss where Livingston and Noah were signed?
Of those I'm only tempted by Sefolosha and Jerebko. It would be weird to get Dante back...
 
Fries would be a solid pick up as he can bring energy and since we lost AFA it would be good to have a guys that could be tough around the hoop.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Here is somebody's top 8 left.
1. Kenneth Faried
He hasn’t adjusted to the offensive or defensive ways of modern bigs, but his physicality and interior presence is still effective in spot minutes. He revived his career a bit in Houston last year, scoring 13 points with eight rebounds in 24 minutes.

2. Thabo Sefolosha
Sefolosha is a good defensive guard who can fit into any rotation. He averaged a steal in 12 minutes last year, and added four points and three rebounds.

3. Cheick Diallo
Diallo is only 22 and showed promise with New Orleans. He averaged six points with four rebounds on 62 percent shooting last year. Take a chance on Cheick.

4. Nene
At 36, he’s nearing the end of his career, but he was still effective in very limited minutes with Houston last year. He’s a good pickup as a last-resort option for a competitive team.

5. Pau Gasol
Gasol’s season ended early after he had surgery on his foot to repair a stress fracture. And he’s 36 years old. But when healthy, he was still fine last season, averaging four points and four rebounds in 12 minutes.

6. Jonas Jerebko
Jerebko can shoot from deep, making 37 percent of his three attempts per game for the Warriors. Add him for bench depth.

7. Dante Cunningham
Cunningham’s offense isn’t stellar, but defensively, he’s pretty good. He also made 30-of-65 threes he took last year, so maybe he can take (and make) more elsewhere.

8. Nik Stauskas
I’ll never give up on someone who can shoot.
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Get Nik back as trade fodder for the deadline ! The new Steve Blake !
 
Scalma said:
Honestly should’ve signed jerebko instead of Tolliver, assuming he gets the minimum.
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CupWizier said:
That is correct. 1 year contracts have a no trade clause unless the player approves.
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I don't think that's entirely correct

Players who accept their QO have right to veto a trade. Players on a 1 year contract that will have either full-Bird or early-Bird rights at the end of that season can also veto a trade since their Bird rights would not transfer

Portland could have traded Curry last season because he was only going to have non-Bird rights, and he had a 1 year contract. Pretty sure there is not any no-trade provision for any player who signs a vet-minimum deal for one year. IIRC, the only other no-trade provision (unless player consents) is when a team matches another team's offer sheet. For that next season, the player can veto a trade
 
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I’m leaning towards Pau, it would fit the theme of finally signing players we tried to get in the past. Plus I think he’d be solid for 10-15 min per game and some championship experience would be nice in the Locker room.

The more I think about it snagging Livingston and Pau would do wonders for us, their experience in the playoffs alone would be worth min contracts imo.
 
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Another guy I wouldn’t mind at allll. Forgot who’s a big fan of his on the board, but I’m on team Wood as well. Dude just needs a chance.




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