Repealing Obamacare

[MarAzul]

America great again....for the rich

What makes you think they need Trump?

 

[Chris Craig]

They are gonna be dropping in crazy shit for prexisting conditions....oh you farted, that's a prexisting condition, you had a headache a decade ago...yeah we can't pay that....

 

[MARIS61]

That's right - it's tax-funded healthcare that is provided free to a subset of the population.

This is so blatantly UNTRUE that I didn't bother to read the rest of the post.

VA "healthcare" is never provided free to anyone.

It is used to coerce people to risk their very lives in mortal combat.

It is the largest part of their PAY for risking their very lives in mortal combat.

It is CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO YOU, if you enlist today to risk your very life in mortal combat.

ACT NOW!!!!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Not until they begin to compete and sell real insurance again. Insurance companies and their lobbyists will never let that happen.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Chris Craig]

What makes you think they need Trump?

Cause he's gonna give them all the hugest tax break ever, he's gonna change the tax code so they don't have to pay shit, he's gonna strip all regulations and let big business do whatever the fuck they want, he's gonna widen the he'll out of every loophole there is...its a good time to be rich

 

[Denny Crane]

Cause he's gonna give them all the hugest tax break ever, he's gonna change the tax code so they don't have to pay shit, he's gonna strip all regulations and let big business do whatever the fuck they want, he's gonna widen the he'll out of every loophole there is...its a good time to be rich

Follow the money. Where does it go? This ought to be amusing.

Trickle down government did not work - the rich got much richer, while main street struggled.

 

[Chris Craig]

Follow the money. Where does it go? This ought to be amusing.

Trickle down government did not work - the rich got much richer, while main street struggled.

It's going into the pockets of the rich. They are going to get a hell of a lot richer now....the divide grows...but it can do so for so long before it all collapses

 

[Denny Crane]

It's going into the pockets of the rich. They are going to get a hell of a lot richer now....the divide grows...but it can do so for so long before it all collapses

Follow the money. The rich don't literally keep all their money in their pockets.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[MarAzul]

I wonder how Wyden will vote. He recommended Oregon not join in after he voted for the act.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Denny Crane]

If Planned Parenthood stayed away from Abortion, there'd be no opposition to it.

Like it or not, many people believe abortion is murder and people don't want to pay for it.

The rest (PAP smears, etc.) aren't the source of any opposition.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If Planned Parenthood stayed away from Abortion, there'd be no opposition to it.
Like it or not, many people believe abortion is murder and people don't want to pay for it.
The rest (PAP smears, etc.) aren't the source of any opposition.

Denny, your ignorance is quite dispiriting. Maybe look up The Hyde Amendment and get back to us.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Denny Crane]

Denny, your ignorance is quite dispiriting. Maybe look up The Hyde Amendment and get back to us.

Henry Hyde was my representative for a few years and I exchanged quite a few mails with him at the time.

I think the "ignorance" claims you make are misdirected. Have a look in the mirror.

 

[blue32]

Henry Hyde was my representative for a few years and I exchanged quite a few mails with him at the time.

I think the "ignorance" claims you make are misdirected. Have a look in the mirror.

I don't believe in paying taxes to fund a place like PP. So count me in on the side who gives no fucks about it. If the liberals care so much about PP then they should organize a monthly contribution payment subscription to it and fund it. Then it's a win win for everyone. Except they won't because most lefties are just blowhards without a backbone for action.

 

[Denny Crane]

I've posted a number of times that once Planned Parenthood is defunded, I would donate to it. And gladly.

It's voluntary association and a terrific charity (in my view).

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Not until they begin to compete and sell real insurance again. Not so sure the government will ever allow it to happen.

Or the AMA

I don't believe in paying taxes to fund a place like PP. So count me in on the side who gives no fucks about it. If the liberals care so much about PP then they should organize a monthly contribution payment subscription to it and fund it. Then it's a win win for everyone. Except they won't because most lefties are just blowhards without a backbone for action.

Yeah right. And most righties are just blowhards that want to pick fights. Exaggerate much?

 

[MarAzul]

Denny, your ignorance is quite dispiriting. Maybe look up The Hyde Amendment and get back to us.

Oh, that one is completely meaningless.

 

[MarAzul]

Or the AMA

Heh? I don't believe the AMA ever crafted a marketable health insurance policy.

It may have been Blue Cross but I don't know for sure who sold the first original policies. They were matching up a healthy risk pool to insure the members from possible high cost of low risk possibilities. When you change that to a standard risk pool, it no longer is worth the cost to the consumer.

Employers were first to provide healthcare coverage to their employees by self insuring the risk. By the nature of their hiring practices (healthy people), they create a natural low risk pool, so self insuring is possible. At first insurance companies were not involved at all in this process. When I first started work at IBM, no insurance company was involved, doctors and hospitals or whatever had to even know about what coverage I had. I paid the bills directly (or my wife did) and IBM reimbursed me when a hospital bill was turned in or when other medical cost exceeded $180 in any 15 month period. They was no opportunity for the cost shifting of expense from non payers to the insured by this system. I worked great!!! The last time I heard, it cost them 52% of the cost of buying insurance, to self insure.

Insurance companies wiggled in over time to manage these plans, fucking it up greatly over time.

AMA was a Johnny come lately to the process, never really bringing a contribution.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

No, that's social democracy at work.

Capitalism demands that there is more profit in selling goods and services for fair market. See supply/demand curve.

If a company charged $1800 for a $100 service, that's an opportunity to start a business that charges $1700.

Competition is what keeps costs fair, not intervening in the market.

So much win in this post. It's so fucking simple and lost on people for some reason.

 

[MarAzul]

So much win in this post. It's so fucking simple and lost on people for some reason.

Yeah, when you think of it, there is a market for people to open emergency care clinics to stitch up kids, fix cut figures, the low end normal trauma care stuff and
compete with these Hospital very high cost ER's. Perhaps some legislation is needed to make it possible, but it doesn't take a Doctor to do; stitches, pump tummies, and clean and bandage.
Some dam good wages to be had here and probably the only way we get some competition. Damn, Tax payers can't create more tax supported hospitals just to compete!

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Yeah, when you think of it, there is a market for people to open emergency care clinics to stitch up kids, fix cut figures, the low end normal trauma care stuff and
compete with these Hospital very high cost ER's. Perhaps some legislation is needed to make it possible, but it doesn't take a Doctor to do; stitches, pump tummies, and clean and bandage.
Some dam good wages to be had here and probably the only way we get some competition. Damn, Tax payers can't create more tax supported hospitals just to compete!

As things are now you could stand outside a hospital room and sell an aspirin for 40 bucks and still undercut the hospital. The whole system is flawed. The legal system doesn't help.

I see commercials for lawyers who want you to sue manufacturers of life saving equipment that fails. It isn't negligence it doesn't seem, just for something unforseen that happens that hurts you. Even if 50 years ago you'd have just died without it.

 

[MarAzul]

As things are now you could stand outside a hospital room and sell an aspirin for 40 bucks and still undercut the hospital. The whole system is flawed. The legal system doesn't help.

I see commercials for lawyers who want you to sue manufacturers of life saving equipment that fails. It isn't negligence it doesn't seem, just for something unforseen that happens that hurts you. Even if 50 years ago you'd have just died without it.

yep. I pisses me off to see these ads lawyer run all the time. If you used this drug or this appliance call, we make you rich!

 

[barfo]

Yeah, when you think of it, there is a market for people to open emergency care clinics to stitch up kids, fix cut figures, the low end normal trauma care stuff and
compete with these Hospital very high cost ER's. Perhaps some legislation is needed to make it possible, but it doesn't take a Doctor to do; stitches, pump tummies, and clean and bandage.
Some dam good wages to be had here and probably the only way we get some competition. Damn, Tax payers can't create more tax supported hospitals just to compete!

Those things exist already. Maybe not in Bandon, but there are a couple within walking distance of my house.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

Those things exist already. Maybe not in Bandon, but there are a couple within walking distance of my house.

barfo

That's nice.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

yep. I pisses me off to see these ads lawyer run all the time. If you used this drug or this appliance call, we make you rich!

If they did something wrong or should have known something might happen, fine. If you're just suing because of the outcome then you're an asshole.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

What would it be like if Planned Parenthood disappeared? Maybe Texas gives us a clue.

 

[Denny Crane]

Planned Parenthood won't go away.

Another silly scaremongering tweet.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Henry Hyde was my representative for a few years and I exchanged quite a few mails with him at the time.

I think the "ignorance" claims you make are misdirected. Have a look in the mirror.

In typical Denny fashion, you avoid addressing the point. You said "people don't like paying for abortion" as a reason for defunding PP. No federal money goes to fund abortion, because of the Hyde Amendment. So an opposition to "paying for abortion" is irrelevant to defunding Planned Parenthood. Whether or not you exchanged letters with him is a total red herring.