Ric Bucher on 1080 5:10 PM

[illmatic99]

It seems like you guys don't realize how mediocre Nelson is, and how much impact Howard has on Nelson's game.

 

[Nikolokolus]

It seems like you guys don't realize how mediocre Nelson is, and how much impact Howard has on Nelson's game.

He's a good-not-great point guard, what am I not seeing?

 

[THE HCP]

Nelson is garbage...... no thanks.

 

[MickZagger]

An 18+ PER point guard with 14 points and 7 assists this year and a career 38% three point shooter and pretty accurate otherwise, so when you say you prefer somebody with more upside, I assume you're talking about that top tier of young point guards that are almost always completely unavailable.

This year is going to be one of the most PG heavy drafts in a while. I prefer gambling on upside of a guy like Kemba Walker and Josh Selby than getting Nelson. I don't like undersized guards like Nelson.

Shelvin Mack is another guy who is going to go up draft boards. I think he'll be a solid point.

 

[RoyToy]

Nelson is garbage...... no thanks.

Why do you say that?

 

[RoyToy]

This year is going to be one of the most PG heavy drafts in a while. I prefer gambling on upside of a guy like Kemba Walker and Josh Selby than getting Nelson. I don't like undersized guards like Nelson.

Shelvin Mack is another guy who is going to go up draft boards. I think he'll be a solid point.

Yet you like Kemba Walker?

 

[Nikolokolus]

This year is going to be one of the most PG heavy drafts in a while. I prefer gambling on upside of a guy like Kemba Walker and Josh Selby than getting Nelson. I don't like undersized guards like Nelson.

Shelvin Mack is another guy who is going to go up draft boards. I think he'll be a solid point.

Who's to say you wouldn't trade for Nelson and draft a point guard prospect? In that way you can hopefully let a guy ease into the NBA and if he pans out Nelson wouldn't be impossible to move down the line if you really wanted to.

I'm almost adamantly opposed to drafting a point guard and throwing him to the wolves unless it's Kyrie Irving and we aren't going to suck badly enough to have a shot at him.

 

[MickZagger]

Yet you like Kemba Walker?

He'll measure out better than Nelson.

 

[RoyToy]

He'll measure out better than Nelson.

Sounds like he'll be lucky to hit 6-1. Probably measure 6-0 at best.

Also, at least Nelson has size on him.

That said, Kemba Walker is still a small guard.

 

[RR7]

Nelson measured out at 6'.25" in shoes. 199. walker would be lucky to hit those. Regardless, though, I agree with the above about drafting one of the top guys to play behind him. Nelson has two years after this, the last being a player option. At 7.8, depending on the new CBA, I can see him declining that option to go elsewhere. If he does or doesn't, though, you have him for 1-2 years to groom our drafted PG.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Nelson measured out at 6'.25" in shoes. 199. walker would be lucky to hit those. Regardless, though, I agree with the above about drafting one of the top guys to play behind him. Nelson has two years after this, the last being a player option. At 7.8, depending on the new CBA, I can see him declining that option to go elsewhere. If he does or doesn't, though, you have him for 1-2 years to groom our drafted PG.

Walker measured 6'1" in shoes at the Lebron James skills camp this past summer.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

1080 has been around forever.... (formerly 910)

95.5 has only been around.... what..... three years?

And you call yourself old school. They used to have Mychael Thompson and Kevin Duckworth (I think Duck was on that show).

They were 1520 KYXI when Mychael and KERMIT WASHINGTON were on. Best basketball radio show ever!

 

[KingSpeed]

Nelson is not garbage. He's a 2009 All Star who is incredibly clutch, hits almost 40% of his three point shots which makes him a better fit for Roy, and is currently averaging 7 assists per game. Bass is the backup PF we've been looking for and we'll be fine without Camby as Aldridge has been very effective at C. A rotation of Joel, Aldridge, and Marks will do just fine for this team. I say pull the trigger.

 

[Blazinaway]

It seems like you guys don't realize how mediocre Nelson is, and how much impact Howard has on Nelson's game.

Yep, much rather take a chance on a younger PG with upside, Jameer would be average at best on this team

 

[Nikolokolus]

Nelson is not garbage. He's a 2009 All Star who is incredibly clutch, hits almost 40% of his three point shots which makes him a better fit for Roy, and is currently averaging 7 assists per game. Bass is the backup PF we've been looking for and we'll be fine without Camby as Aldridge has been very effective at C. A rotation of Joel, Aldridge, and Marks will do just fine for this team. I say pull the trigger.

I agree with you about pulling the trigger ... I don't agree that "we'll be fine." That's a miserable front-line from a defensive standpoint. For me this move wouldn't be about this year though.

 

[BBert]

I don't think our intention is to hand the Magic the title. WTF.

As a fan, it wouldn't break my heart to keep the Flakers, the Meat or the Keltics from whining (see what I did there?) it.

And just think of the draft pick we'd get!

 

[Ghost Pepper]

We don't need another mighty mouse type of PG! As shown with teams like the Lakers they'll post him up and exploit the hell out of the size mismatch! HELL NOOO!!!!

 

[Blaze01]

I don't mind that trade at all, I'd love to get Redick in that deal somehow as well....

POR mgmt has to pull thier head out of thier ass and realize that the future of this team is Aldridge, not Roy....

Find players to fit around him, not around Roy...

 

[Ghost Pepper]

The west PG's will have a field day posting up Jameer just like they did Damon! NOOOOOO THANKS!!!!

 

[MIXUM]

Just as Blazers President Larry Miller and GM Rich Cho said last night, Bucher also said he is hearing that Portland is being very active in taking and making trade calls. "What I'm hearing, essentially, is that not only are teams calling Portland but that Portland is being very aggressive calling other teams. Not just with Brandon Roy, but basically saying, 'outside of Nicolas Batum and LaMarcus Aldridge everybody and anybody is available on that roster to make a deal.' They're not looking to tear it down as much as to rebuild it and solidify their situation, particularly making the playoffs, especially in light of what Phoenix has done, which most people look at and say that Phoenix has bolstered their chances of making the playoffs."

Portland's goal, Bucher said, is to reach the playoffs. "The Blazers are very eager at this point to improve their chances of making sure they make the postseason."

 

[Pinwheel1]

I don't mind that trade at all, I'd love to get Redick in that deal somehow as well....

POR mgmt has to pull thier head out of thier ass and realize that the future of this team is Aldridge, not Roy....

Find players to fit around him, not around Roy...

hope you are right. But things change in a hurry. It just seems like last month that LMA sucked and needed to go. (Oh wait it was last month) And now we need to build around him. Hey I have always been in his corner, but to say Blazer fans are fickle is a huge under statement.

it will interesting what we say next month.

 

[Minstrel]

which makes him a better fit for Roy

Since Roy is no longer a franchise player or even close to a star anymore, unfortunately, "fit" with him is irrelevant. Unless Roy has a major reinvention of his game, his best role is likely to be off the bench.

I don't hate the Miller/Camby for Nelson/Bass deal. If that's the best the Blazers are seeing by the trade deadline, I'd do it. It doesn't thrill me, but it's acceptable value weighted more to the future than the present (that is, they have value in the future, whereas Miller and Camby are all present value).

 

[MrJayremmie]

Just as Blazers President Larry Miller and GM Rich Cho said last night, Bucher also said he is hearing that Portland is being very active in taking and making trade calls. "What I'm hearing, essentially, is that not only are teams calling Portland but that Portland is being very aggressive calling other teams. Not just with Brandon Roy, but basically saying, 'outside of Nicolas Batum and LaMarcus Aldridge everybody and anybody is available on that roster to make a deal.' They're not looking to tear it down as much as to rebuild it and solidify their situation, particularly making the playoffs, especially in light of what Phoenix has done, which most people look at and say that Phoenix has bolstered their chances of making the playoffs."

Portland's goal, Bucher said, is to reach the playoffs. "The Blazers are very eager at this point to improve their chances of making sure they make the postseason."

Good post, thanks MIXUM.

 

[Ed O]

Camby/Miller for Bass/Nelson

And our starting center would be?

Joel? Aldridge?

Oden in the future?

I'm not a huge Nelson fan, but he's a solid starter and Bass would be a very good big guy who could back up Aldridge in the long run.

I'd do that deal.

Ed O.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Joel? Aldridge?

Oden in the future?

I'm not a huge Nelson fan, but he's a solid starter and Bass would be a very good big guy who could back up Aldridge in the long run.

I'd do that deal.

Ed O.

The way LMA is running the court and attacking the basket not many centers can defend that. I'd like to see an uptempo system in place that will take advantage of his skills with him at the five.

The difference is night and day in his game. The ISO-heavy offense he's merely a 3rd option.. An up-tempo system he's been dominating.

 

[Hey]

Miller and Camby are a huge reason for Aldridge's success...

 

[Ed O]

Miller and Camby are a huge reason for Aldridge's success...

I don't agree. They were both there last year and earlier this year when he wasn't playing at this high of a level.

Ed O.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Pushing the ball is the reason for Aldridge's success. Now double teams don't have time to get to him quick enough and it's paying huge dividends.

 

[MAS RipCity]

Color me skeptical on acquiring Jameer Nelson. He's more of a scoring point guard and I think even at Andre's age, he's got a higher value. Nelson has the benefit of getting open looks from the double team's that Dwight Howard faces. If we do deal Camby and Andre, which seems inevitable if we want to capitalize on their contracts, I'd hope for a better return than Nelson and a player in Bass who isn't much better than Cunningham.