Rich Cho out as GM!

[MrSelfDestruct]

From Freeman's Twitter:

Blazers owner Paul Allen, in a release announcing team's split w/ Cho: "This decision, as difficult as it was to make, reflects our willingness to admit and recognize that things haven't worked out. We're going to be tough on ourselves in assessing what we could have done better, and then go out and find the executive who is the best fit with the needs of our franchise. That chemistry and connection is critically important..."

I condensed 4 tweets into a single statement.

https://twitter.com/#!/BlazerFreeman

 

[Nikolokolus]

It was obvious that Miller was running the show from Day One of the Cho era. I'm not sure how many people here argued with me on that point, but there were a lot of them. Cho was in over his head from the time he was hired.

That was my opinion then, and trading away a young back-up PG as his first move was stupid. Following that up by saying that he thought the New Orleans pick would be higher showed his inexperience.

Well which is it? Was Miller running the show from day one (and thus approving or stopping trades from happening) or was Cho making moves autonomously?

 

[e_blazer]

As Ed said, either they were justified firing him now, which means they hired someone incompetent last year, or else they were unjustified in firing him now, which means they fired someone competent.

Which is exactly what I also said in my follow-up post.

So, which eventuality casts this front office in a good light? In some sense, it's irrelevant whether this was the right decision or not. If the team administration is clueless, the team is not going to be successful whether Cho is GM or not.

I don't think that it casts the front office in a good light that they felt they had to fire Cho after such a short period of time. It also doesn't mean that it wasn't the correct decision this time. The Knicks let Isiah Thomas have the reins a lot longer than they should have. That worked out well for them.

 

[Minstrel]

Well which is it? Was Miller running the show from day one (and thus approving or stopping trades from happening) or was Cho making moves autonomously?

Bad moves were all Cho, good moves were all Miller. Obviously.

 

[Draco]

It was obvious that Miller was running the show from Day One of the Cho era. I'm not sure how many people here argued with me on that point, but there were a lot of them. Cho was in over his head from the time he was hired.

That was my opinion then, and trading away a young back-up PG as his first move was stupid. Following that up by saying that he thought the New Orleans pick would be higher showed his inexperience.

So if Cho wasn't running the show, why are you ragging him for the Bayless trade?

 

[Mediocre Man]

They need to bring in Zeke!

Hahaha. That would be the best

 

[BrianFromWA]

Bad moves were all Cho, good moves were all Miller. Obviously.

Honestly, with how this situation has played out....I'll take that. Better than the opposite.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Hahaha. That would be the best

Eddy Curry is a free agent. CotF! Starbury's been keeping active in China....BAM! Two needs met in the first 5 minutes on the job.

 

[Mediocre Man]

You got it all wrong.

You're not being mocked for your position on the front office.

Haha.

 

[OddEnormous]

That was my opinion then, and trading away a young back-up PG as his first move was stupid. Following that up by saying that he thought the New Orleans pick would be higher showed his inexperience.

My first clue was when Jason Quick told me he was having trouble making a choice on his dinner menu.

 

[Minstrel]

Which is exactly what I also said in my follow-up post.

I'm not saying you didn't take a position, I'm saying that the rhetorical question you've been posing throughout this thread (If Cho was terrible, shouldn't they fire him?) is hardly a good defense of the franchise or even all that meaningful in the long view.

I don't think that it casts the front office in a good light that they felt they had to fire Cho after such a short period of time. It also doesn't mean that it wasn't the correct decision this time. The Knicks let Isiah Thomas have the reins a lot longer than they should have. That worked out well for them.

Yes, I'm not debating whether the move was good or bad. From the publicly known results, it seems excessively hasty and silly, but who knows if he was sexually harassing people behind closed doors. What I'm saying is that the franchise seems erratic and without any clear idea what they're doing. That's bad, irrespective of whether Cho needed to go or not.

 

[PapaG]

So if Cho wasn't running the show, why are you ragging him for the Bayless trade?

I meant from Day One after the Bayless trade.

Cho is fired. Should have never had the job in the first place. I was right.

 

[PapaG]

My first clue was when Jason Quick told me he was having trouble making a choice on his dinner menu.

That was so painful, and the Cho Apologists clearly didn't see the red flags.

 

[PapaG]

Jay Allen from a source: Cho was seen in the NBA as a guy who had a hard time making a decision.

OE and I called that from his first lunch in Portland.

 

[Masbee]

So, between the time his book was written last year and the time it was released in April Paul Allen has changed his mind about Cho. Neither one of us has any clue as to why that is the case. Absent that, we're both talking out of our backsides, which is something that's not exactly unusual around here.

I am not sure why you are complaining about that fact.

If any of us wanted the well established "facts" as they are filtered, reviewed through multiple layers of attorneys, PR flaks, and battle tested execs and public figures, we can just go to their web site.

All the "truth" available at Blazers.com.

The purpose of forums like this is to question, speculate, hypothize, tear apart and mull over all the rumours we can get. And to do so immediately, well before all the information is out there. Talking out your ass is a prerequisite for making interesting posts. Regurgitating "facts" that are well known and readily available is pretty boring and of limited value.

 

[andalusian]

My first clue was when Jason Quick told me he was having trouble making a choice on his dinner menu.

That's right! A GM should be evaluated by his culinary preferences.

He is indecisive about his Asian menu options - he is a calculating man that can not be decisive over his numeric formulas (See Cho, Rich)
He is a cake aficionado - he wants everything to be happy and sweet without taking into account the health risks (See Pritchard, Kevin)
He likes McDonald - he is a frugal man that is willing to sacrifice taste, style and substance for cruel efficiency of speed and mass-production at the cost of results (See Patterson, Steve)
He likes Ben and Jerry - he is a nice man that likes to mingle with the common man - but can not understand that ice-cream is not a real nutritional value (See Nash, John).

 

[e_blazer]

I'm not saying you didn't take a position, I'm saying that the rhetorical question you've been posing throughout this thread (If Cho was terrible, shouldn't they fire him?) is hardly a good defense of the franchise or even all that meaningful in the long view.



Yes, I'm not debating whether the move was good or bad. From the publicly known results, it seems excessively hasty and silly, but who knows if he was sexually harassing people behind closed doors. What I'm saying is that the franchise seems erratic and without any clear idea what they're doing. That's bad, irrespective of whether Cho needed to go or not.

I get that. I also suspect that Cho, as nice of a guy and as wonderful as he may have been with the CBA and player stats, wasn't the guy that should be Blazers GM. I've watched him throughout the season, from his first painful interviews, to the meet and greet, where I thought he was nice but really awkward, to how when we see video of him from the practice facility he always seems to be sitting away from coaching staff and other front office folks. I think he just isn't GM material. If that's the case, and I'm willing to admit my impressions could be wrong, then getting rid of him now, before the draft, is the best thing for the Blazers regardless of how others may view them. The sooner we get a qualified GM hired and taking the controls, the better.

 

[EGame]

Since Rudy is such a key essential part of our team in that his looks bring in the chicks to games, Cho face palming when Rudy missed a free throw against OKC must have been to over the top.

 

[Wheels]

Jay Allen from a source: Cho was seen in the NBA as a guy who had a hard time making a decision.

OE and I called that from his first lunch in Portland.

did you? I couldnt tell from your other posts.

 

[Wheels]

I kid I kid I love each and every one of you

 

[e_blazer]

I am not sure why you are complaining about that fact.

If any of us wanted the well established "facts" as they are filtered, reviewed through multiple layers of attorneys, PR flaks, and battle tested execs and public figures, we can just go to their web site.

All the "truth" available at Blazers.com.

The purpose of forums like this is to question, speculate, hypothize, tear apart and mull over all the rumours we can get. And to do so immediately, well before all the information is out there. Talking out your ass is a prerequisite for making interesting posts. Regurgitating "facts" that are well known and readily available is pretty boring and of limited value.

What makes you think I'm complaining about that fact? After a dozen years or so on message boards, I think I have a pretty good handle on the dynamics involved. I was just noting for the record that nobody here has a good idea as to what the real facts are and that absent that, it's pretty hard for me to jump on the "OH MY GOD, THE BLAZERS ARE TOTALLY INCOMPETENT CLOWNS BECAUSE THEY FIRED CHO" bandwagon. This could equally well work out to be the best day in recent Blazers history. But, if you're really enjoying the freakout, I'm sorry if I disrupted you.

 

[THE HCP]

So will his 2 assistant GMs get the boot too?!? Larry must no have felt they were not squared away enough to take Cho's spot if he moved Buchanan to the interim spot. Just give the job to Chad Buchanan. He would do a great job if you ask me.

 

[PapaG]

What makes you think I'm complaining about that fact? After a dozen years or so on message boards, I think I have a pretty good handle on the dynamics involved. I was just noting for the record that nobody here has a good idea as to what the real facts are and that absent that, it's pretty hard for me to jump on the "OH MY GOD, THE BLAZERS ARE TOTALLY INCOMPETENT CLOWNS BECAUSE THEY FIRED CHO" bandwagon. This could equally well work out to be the best day in recent Blazers history. But, if you're really enjoying the freakout, I'm sorry if I disrupted you.

I thought they were incompetent clowns when they fired Penn and Pritchard, and then hired a completely inexperienced GM. Perhaps firing that inexperienced GM, who helped make the team older and not better, is perhaps the first competent move they've made in some time.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

**eagerly awaits MIXUM's freakout rant**

oh wait...

 

[barfo]

This just in from twitter:
"Paul Allen wrote in "Idea Man" - released April 19 - that Rich Cho was part of "a leadership team that can get us back to the Finals.""

Apparently he went from genius to moron in a month.

Uhm, released on April 19th doesn't mean written on April 19th, when it comes to books.

barfo

 

[e_blazer]

I thought they were incompetent clowns when they fired Penn and Pritchard, and then hired a completely inexperienced GM. Perhaps firing that inexperienced GM, who helped make the team older and not better, is perhaps the first competent move they've made in some time.

That's all I'm saying. Apparently not clearly enough.

 

[Mediocre Man]

You shouldn't forget Mixum got banned for saying negative things about this great franchise.

 

[maxiep]

You know how championship teams are built? Sure you have to have talent and yes you have to have some luck, but the one constant is a steady hand in upper management/ownership and a clear vision.

Paul Allen = Al Davis minus the tracksuit

Spot on. Repped.

 

[e_blazer]

You shouldn't forget Mixum got banned for saying negative things about this great franchise.

Yeah. That's why he's gone.

 

[Tince]

You shouldn't forget Mixum got banned for saying negative things about this great franchise.

Luckily we have a board historian who reminds of us stuff like that.