Forum Game Rip City S2 Mock Off Season 2018 (1 Viewer)

[Mediocre Man]

3 more people until Saric is on the block

 

[BonesJones]

...yes?!

Do this?

 

[BonesJones]

If we had 12, we could still make it work. Not as optimal as 15 though.

6 people with 3 = 18 teams
6 people with 2 = 12 teams

If we have to resort to a few people having 3 teams, the 3rd team should be an organization that won't/can't do much this off-season (GSW, DET, NOP, etc.), as well as the unpicked teams nobody wants.

 

[BonesJones]

Here's my full idea for free agency @hoopsjock

Lets say free agency starts in real-time on June 13th. Signings would be in waves (i.e. some free agents would sign earlier than normal).

June 12th - Resigning Offer Period
June 13th
June 14th - Wave 1 Signings
June 15th
June 16th - Wave 2 Signings
June 17th
June 18th - Wave 3 Signings
June 19th
June 20th - Final Wave Signings

Rules:
Participants would submit their contract offers (with an optional, short pitch) to me or HoopsJock personally (through private messaging). Every wave signing day, we would compile offers for each player, and use the signing date system explained below to decide which players would be signing on that date. For players that sign on that date, me and HoopsJock would go over the offers and the pitches (which could affect odds if the pitches are good enough) and try to realistically come up with odds of each deal being accepted (based on salary, state of the team, location, market, if it's close to home, etc). With us two working together on it, it would stop us from giving our own deals to great of odds and would make it fair. We would then use a RNG between 1-100 to have that free agent randomly select a team.
Resigning Offer Period - Certain Free Agents could be resigned on Day 1, if the offer is better than what they should expect on the market, and if they want to stay in the city their in. For example, if Nurkic gets offered a max contract day one, he'd accept on the spot. On June 12th, we could allow people to submit offers for their own free agents only. Me and HoopsJock would sort through which deals would get accepted immediately, and would announce them on June 13th. If a player doesn't immediately resign, he falls into the signing wave system detailed below. June 13th would kick off free agency.
Waves - Me and HoopsJock would set a wave range for each player depending on if they would value an early offer or not.
-- Ex. LeBron would likely be Wave 3-4, as he'd take his time. Once Wave 3 comes, I'd flip a coin for if LeBron makes his decision in Wave 3 or Wave 4.
-- Ex2. - Someone like Tyreke Evans might value an early contract offer. His range may be 1-3. For Wave 1, he would have a 50% of accepting, Wave 2 would have a 50%, and Wave 3 would have a 100% chance.
Outstanding Offers - If a player gets a contract that is WAY above market value, (ex. Evan Turner for $18M a year), me and HoopsJock would have the authority to declare that free agent as signing that deal immediately, due to how substantial it is compared to what would be expected. If it's an offer from one of us, the other person will be in charge to declare. These signings could happen on non-wave days.
RFA - A team would have 2 days in real-time to match a RFA offer.
Sign and Trades - Teams can make offers that could only be accepted through sign-and-trade, and will be judges as a normal offer (if it's doable under the CBA). If that player declares his intention to sign, then the teams have two days to figure out a sign-and-trade offer that works. If they cannot do so, then the player is re-inserted to the free agent pool with the team that couldn't complete the sign-and-trade for that player taken out of the running.

 

[SwissBlazer]

If i can play i would take one of these teams:
1. Mavs
2. Bulls
3. Grizzlies

Thanks

 

[hoopsjock]

If i can play i would take one of these teams:
1. Mavs
2. Bulls
3. Grizzlies

Thanks

You got it man, I gave you the Mavericks and you'll get a 2nd team when we get two more people to play.

 

[hoopsjock]

@RR7 ???

 

[hoopsjock]

Just to make sure, please reply to this post if you want to be in the running for the Blazers.

 

[SwissBlazer]

Just to make sure, please reply to this post if you want to be in the running for the Blazers.

Of course i want

 

[SwissBlazer]

You got it man, I gave you the Mavericks and you'll get a 2nd team when we get two more people to play.

Be ready for a max offer to my guy Capela

 

[BonesJones]

@hoopsjock what do you think of my free agency idea?

 

[kjironman1]

So i read the thread. Still don't really understand what the end game is here? How do you come up with a winner? Are you assigning points for completing a trade? After all the trades and free agency is done and then you do a draft you end up with an amount of players. But how do you know if you have done a good job or not? A good example of my point here is the Thunder last year. Most figured that team hit a home run in free agency but look what happened. How do you play a season to find out who wins?

 

[BonesJones]

So i read the thread. Still don't really understand what the end game is here? How do you come up with a winner? Are you assigning points for completing a trade? After all the trades and free agency is done and then you do a draft you end up with an amount of players. But how do you know if you have done a good job or not? A good example of my point here is the Thunder last year. Most figured that team hit a home run in free agency but look what happened. How do you play a season to find out who wins?

We could do a 2K sim haha.

Gonna give out grades.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

We could do a 2K sim haha.

Gonna give out grades.

I actually like the idea of doing 2k sims when 2k19 comes out.
I haven’t bought the last 2k game because I didn’t like the focus on VC, but if no one wants 2k19 I can get it, pc or PS4 doesn’t matter so we can do sims.

 

[Chris Craig]

2 more players...come on

 

[hoopsjock]

So i read the thread. Still don't really understand what the end game is here? How do you come up with a winner? Are you assigning points for completing a trade? After all the trades and free agency is done and then you do a draft you end up with an amount of players. But how do you know if you have done a good job or not? A good example of my point here is the Thunder last year. Most figured that team hit a home run in free agency but look what happened. How do you play a season to find out who wins?

KJ in real life no one knows who won the off season until the season is played. I don't get why there has to be a "winner". Obviously there will be people who improved their team and those that didn't. It's about the fun of the process.

The only issue I have with the 2k thing is when we do it. If we simulated it before the season this years rookie equivalent of guys like Donovan Mitchell and Kyle Kuzma wouldn't be rated very high. So you don't get rewarded for a really good late pick.

 

[hoopsjock]

@hoopsjock what do you think of my free agency idea?

It's a cool idea, since we will be participating in free agency I'm worried that we'd have too much power or inside information and that it would take a lot of time, ha ha.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

It's a cool idea, since we will be participating in free agency I'm worried that we'd have too much power or inside information and that it would take a lot of time, ha ha.

Since @BrianFromWA indicated interest in being involved, but not actually running a team, you might consider trying to utilize him for determining free agency.

 

[CupWizier]

@hoopsjock what do you think of my free agency idea?

You guys would be better off just ignoring free agency as there is no way to do it realistically or fair.

 

[Mediocre Man]

You guys would be better off just ignoring free agency as there is no way to do it realistically or fair.

No reason to do it without free agency, so ya, if we aren't using it, no play

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/

If anyone wants it - here’s a list of free agents -

 

[Chris Craig]

It's a cool idea, since we will be participating in free agency I'm worried that we'd have too much power or inside information and that it would take a lot of time, ha ha.

That's why I advised a commisioner who isn't attached to any team.

 

[BonesJones]

You guys would be better off just ignoring free agency as there is no way to do it realistically or fair.

Yeah we could.

 

[BonesJones]

It's a cool idea, since we will be participating in free agency I'm worried that we'd have too much power or inside information and that it would take a lot of time, ha ha.

Yeah how could we counter that?

 

[BonesJones]

We could also use 2K18 for the free agent simulation.

 

[BonesJones]

@RR7

 

[KeepOnRollin]

That's why I advised a commisioner who isn't attached to any team.

Me 2. In fact, I think I said before that to make it Sly or Brian.

 

[CupWizier]

Yeah we could.

The problem is there are way too many free agents and in free agency the player has control of his destiny, not the existing team or the team wanting to acquire him. Take for example a player like David West. Many teams would probably not have a problem offering him a 5mil contract but as we have seen the last few years he is willing to take much less to stay on a contending team. You guys need to come up with the rules to free agency and let people put their input in, but I just don't see a realistic way of it working.

 

[BonesJones]

The problem is there are way too many free agents and in free agency the player has control of his destiny, not the existing team or the team wanting to acquire him. Take for example a player like David West. Many teams would probably not have a problem offering him a 5mil contract but as we have seen the last few years he is willing to take much less to stay on a contending team. You guys need to come up with the rules to free agency and let people put their input in, but I just don't see a realistic way of it working.

Did you read my idea above? If you want to help us determine signing odds as an outside source it'd be appreciated.

 

[BonesJones]

Me 2. In fact, I think I said before that to make it Sly or Brian.

Or @TBpup or @Boob-No-More