Romney tells millionaires what he really thinks of Obama voters

[blazerboy30]

you cant be this dumb but ill play along...

are you saying that in all of chicago, or all of LA, 200k is poor?

because that would just be fucking moronic, so you cant be saying that, right?

the average income in the most affluent zip code of chicago is $62,345.96, so making 3 times that is still poor right?

manhattan is $66,818...so again, 3x that is poor right?

and what is "manhattan is 3M" even mean anyways? the link shows 119,047 households with > 200k income in manhattan

conservatives have no grasp on reality once again, and when faced with it, often grow hostile

Yes, backpedal and demand exact numbers after your claim of "0.0000001%".

I DEMAND EXACT NUMBERS NOW THAT MY ARGUMENT LOOKED SILLY.

 

[blazerboy30]

how is it dishonest to state that Willard has surrounded himself with former Bush advisors when he has done exactly that? Domestically he's been vague about laying out the particulars of his tax plan, but he's advocating many of the same macro level strategies... more tax breaks for the rich at the expense of the middle class, getting rid of Wall Street & Banking regulations, cutting back on social services. Like George, he comes from privilege and is former Gov. who claims his business experience is what will help him succeed at the job. Also like George he's shown a talent for putting his silver foot in his mouth.

I'm sure he'd carve his own legacy if he were to become the POTUS, but there are lots of parallels between the two so a comparison is hardly a stretch worth whining about. How would you differentiate the two?

STOMP

Were Hillary and Obama the same? Their policies were similar enough that there wasn't much to differentiate the two. The point is that for a large number of Americans, they policies are irrelevant. It's all about their perception. I guess if you feel that Romney comes across with the same vibe that gave Bush the "dumb" and "unintelligent" labels, that's your opinion. I think they come across very different in that regard.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Yes, backpedal and demand exact numbers after your claim of "0.0000001%".

I DEMAND EXACT NUMBERS NOW THAT MY ARGUMENT LOOKED SILLY.

whoa, umm, maybe time to up the meds man

you attacked my numbers with some bullshit numbers of your own, i rebutted with more exact figures, and then you crawled away with your tail between your legs like a sad little dog

.0000001% is around 25 square miles of land, around the area of land that you "cant live" on 200k, so any other questions? or have you sufficiently had your ass handed to you yet?

 

[blazerboy30]

whoa, umm, maybe time to up the meds man

you attacked my numbers with some bullshit numbers of your own, i rebutted with more exact figures, and then you crawled away with your tail between your legs like a sad little dog

.0000001% is around 25 square miles of land, around the area of land that you "cant live" on 200k, so any other questions? or have you sufficiently had your ass handed to you yet?

haha! No, we should definitely based it on inhabitable volume within the Mesosphere. Preferably in cubic meters. These are much better ways to measure this than actually the number of people it applies to.

0.0000001%! IT'S A LEGIT AND MEANINGFUL NUMBER!!11!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

haha! No, we should definitely based it on inhabitable volume within the Mesosphere. Preferably in cubic meters. These are much better ways to measure this than actually the number of people it applies to.

0.0000001%! IT'S A LEGIT AND MEANINGFUL NUMBER!!11!

maybe double up the meds even lol

it was queried about places on earth (hence using actual measurements OF EARTH) where 200k doesnt cut it, and your answer was... 3M PEEPLE!!11!! 3M PEEPUHL IN CHICAGOOO!!!11!!

YOU are the one with the faulty logic, if you care to back up your ravings with any information though, im all ears

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Three in four Americans feel they have little or nothing in common with Mitt Romney, while nearly 60 percent feel the same way about President Barack Obama, according to an Esquire/Yahoo! News poll.

In the wake of Romney's remarks dismissing nearly half of Americans as self-identified victims who are dependent on government—videotaped at a donor event earlier this year and posted online this week by Mother Jones magazine—these new numbers are more bad news for a candidate struggling to connect with ordinary Americans.

http://news.yahoo.com/esquire-yahoo-news-poll-americans-little-common-with-romney.html

It's not exactly like the citizen identify with obama either. I wonder what Obama's numbers were last election . . . I'm guessing the percentage is much higher this time around.

 

[Denny Crane]

I didn't say Obama wasn't going to win, just that I don't see this one blooper as making that much of a difference. I tip my hat to the Democrats for being really smart at when they released this. Obviously, since the event happened in May, they've had it in their arsenal waiting to release it until just the right time when it could be a major distraction for Romney just prior to the debates. Much smarter than the Republicans were last time with the Reverend Wright and "clinging to guns & religion" Obama faux pas in the 2008 election. Those were released much too early and had blown over by election day. Still, I doubt this thing will be of nearly as much importance in determining the election as the debates and what may happen to the economy between now and election day.

We have a winner! They kept their powder dry until they really needed it.

Latest Gallup and USA Today and Rasmussen polls have the race dead even in the swing states. Gallup poll taken before the Obama campaign released this video.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-09-18/obama-romney-swing-states-poll/57803524/1
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...dministration/daily_swing_state_tracking_poll

 

[The_Lillard_King]

We have a winner! They kept their powder dry until they really needed it.

Latest Gallup and USA Today and Rasmussen polls have the race dead even in the swing states. Gallup poll taken before the Obama campaign released this video.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-09-18/obama-romney-swing-states-poll/57803524/1
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...dministration/daily_swing_state_tracking_poll

Maybe republicans have something in their cupboard to use against Obama and are waiting for the opportune time to use it. It would be smart to do.

I mean just when things were being focused on Obama in a bad way, boom, we hear Romeny thinks 47% of the population think they are victims and only care about handouts. Just what the dr perscribed for democrats who are trying to covince us that Romney only cares about big business and people who make big salaries.

 

[Denny Crane]

I can't imagine the Republicans have anything of real use. I mean, our embassies are under assault, people burning our flag in at least 20 nations and that's not bigger news than a Romney gaffe.

 

[MickZagger]

whoa, umm, maybe time to up the meds man

you attacked my numbers with some bullshit numbers of your own, i rebutted with more exact figures, and then you crawled away with your tail between your legs like a sad little dog

.0000001% is around 25 square miles of land, around the area of land that you "cant live" on 200k, so any other questions? or have you sufficiently had your ass handed to you yet?

Hey! Lay off those Stanford dweebs! They get those nice, shiny, degrees so they can come get pretentious with us silly message board liberals.

D'Oh!

 

[MickZagger]

I can't imagine the Republicans have anything of real use. I mean, our embassies are under assault, people burning our flag in at least 20 nations and that's not bigger news than a Romney gaffe.

....and a huge election year. Politics always take the cake. You've been around a lot longer than I. You should know this.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I can't imagine the Republicans have anything of real use. I mean, our embassies are under assault, people burning our flag in at least 20 nations and that's not bigger news than a Romney gaffe.

even a staged terrorist attack favors obama me thinks, so unless romney has a tape of obama getting gangbanged by the kkk, hes boned

 

[RR7]

even a staged terrorist attack favors obama me thinks, so unless romney has a tape of obama getting gangbanged by the kkk, hes boned

crossing racial barriers, eliminating hatred. How would that video not favor Obama?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I can't imagine the Republicans have anything of real use. I mean, our embassies are under assault, people burning our flag in at least 20 nations and that's not bigger news than a Romney gaffe.

I guesss they can always break out the "where is the birth certificate" if that is the best they got. . . people seemed to be more concerned about that than foreign affairs right now. Republican party needs to get in touch with what is really improtant to Americans.

 

[blazerboy30]

maybe double up the meds even lol

it was queried about places on earth (hence using actual measurements OF EARTH) where 200k doesnt cut it, and your answer was... 3M PEEPLE!!11!! 3M PEEPUHL IN CHICAGOOO!!!11!!

YOU are the one with the faulty logic, if you care to back up your ravings with any information though, im all ears

Silly people. They can live in Antarctica where you can save lots of money in refrigeration costs and air conditioning. Homes are cheap and so are property taxes. I think this is a great point to make in determining what portion of Americans are "rich" while making 200k.

Back to your rants about dildos.

 

[e_blazer]

As far as the impact of this tempest in a tea cup, about what I expected:

The poll, taken Tuesday, showed 36% of registered voters indicating they would be less likely to vote for Romney after the tapes were released. Twenty percent said they were more likely to vote for Romney, and 43% said the tapes made no difference.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...ws-voters-reaction-to-romney-tapes/?hpt=hp_t2

The 36% were almost certainly already predisposed to vote for Obama and this just added to that determination. For 63 percent of those polled, it won't have any impact or may even make them more likely to support Romney. The media are having fun with it, but it's not going to make a difference in the election. Voter turnout in various segments of the population will have a much more significant impact.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Back to your rants about dildos.

is that a request?

you high waisted, part down the middle types have a kinky side

 

[Masbee]

As far as the impact of this tempest in a tea cup, about what I expected:



http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...ws-voters-reaction-to-romney-tapes/?hpt=hp_t2

The 36% were almost certainly already predisposed to vote for Obama and this just added to that determination. For 63 percent of those polled, it won't have any impact or may even make them more likely to support Romney. The media are having fun with it, but it's not going to make a difference in the election. Voter turnout in various segments of the population will have a much more significant impact.

I agree, turnout in the swing states with as close as this election is polling, looks like it will be the difference maker.

In 2008 the Democrats did a very good job of improving turnout in key states, turning nailbiters into 2 to 4% margins of victory.

This time they will have to do even better to counteract the Obama hangover effect: Obama voters from 2008 that will no way switch, but are far less enthusiastic about Obama this time. And it is from both side: the left who feel betrayed that the "revolution" they dreamed of didn't happen (Single payer, Guantamimo, Climate Change, War on Drugs, civil rights, etc.); the moderates who didn't see Obama as the promised transformative bridge builder who would repair things for "all". Instead they see a mostly failed economic policy and no new ideas.

 

[crandc]

Well, e_blazer, I saw it the other way. Those who said no difference were probably already firmly committed, mostly to Obama. The undecided/swing/lightly committed were the ones to whom it would make a difference.

And the "more likely" were probably the ones who watch Rush Limbaugh saying right on, run on hating those parasites, fellow multimillionaire!

 

[MARIS61]

Maybe republicans have something in their cupboard to use against Obama and are waiting for the opportune time to use it. It would be smart to do.

I mean just when things were being focused on Obama in a bad way, boom, we hear Romeny thinks 47% of the population think they are victims and only care about handouts. Just what the dr perscribed for democrats who are trying to covince us that Romney only cares about big business and people who make big salaries.

This is pretty much what he has said all along, every time he has opened his mouth, ever since he decided to run. And more importantly this is what his investments, his takeovers, and his actions at Bain said of him. I don't see any big revelation going on because nobody with eyes, ears, and a brain thought he gave a rat's ass about "common" folk before anyway.

 

[e_blazer]

Well, e_blazer, I saw it the other way. Those who said no difference were probably already firmly committed, mostly to Obama. The undecided/swing/lightly committed were the ones to whom it would make a difference.

And the "more likely" were probably the ones who watch Rush Limbaugh saying right on, run on hating those parasites, fellow multimillionaire!

I can see how you could interpret it that way, but the fact is that polling numbers this week have shown the race tightening, not Obama increasing his lead. That makes me think that my interpretation is correct. Of course, the numbers could look different by next week so it's a bit of an open question.

 

[maxiep]

I'm struck at the difference in the strategies the two parties employ, and it's opposite as to what I used to think.

The Democrats are the ones engaged in class warfare, race baiting and identity politics. And it's now the Republicans talking to people simply as Americans, without emphasis on your race, color, creed or economic standing. One side tells you that you don't have a chance because of predetermined markers and the other side simply wants people to have opportunity to make of themselves what they wish. As a former registered Democrat, I don't recognize the party I used to call home.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

And it's now the Republicans talking to people simply as Americans, without emphasis on your economic standing.

well, unless you are the 47% that are so poor they drag the country down, then they dont worry about you

 

[maxiep]

well, unless you are the 47% that are so poor they drag the country down, then they dont worry about you

What if Romney was saying he didn't worry about trying to get their vote because they were already decided? How do you know he doesn't care about them personally?

Romney has already said he doesn't worry about the very poor, because there are programs to provide their basic needs. He doesn't care about the wealthy, because they can provide for themselves. He cares about the middle class and getting them more opportunity. The economic prescriptions provided over the past three and a half years haven't worked. Perhaps it's time to try a formula that has actually been shown to work?

 

[PapaG]

well, unless you are the 47% that are so poor they drag the country down, then they dont worry about you

Yes, in the video that immediately cuts off for 1-2 minutes right after he says that.

I'm blaming it on anti-Islam YouTube videos.

 

[crandc]

e_blazer, polls are showing the opposite! In several key swing states Obama has either gotten ahead or increased his lead. Polls on key issues/attributes show Obama ahead, sometimes by huge margins, on everything except deficit where Romney is up 3%.

Howsomeever, all will be revealed in about 6 weeks, won't it?

 

[e_blazer]

e_blazer, polls are showing the opposite! In several key swing states Obama has either gotten ahead or increased his lead. Polls on key issues/attributes show Obama ahead, sometimes by huge margins, on everything except deficit where Romney is up 3%.

Howsomeever, all will be revealed in about 6 weeks, won't it?

Rasmussen, which was the most accurate in the 2008 election, has Obama up 47% to 45% for Romney, which is tighter than it was after the President got his post-convention bounce. As you say though, all will be revealed in about 6 weeks.

 

[maxiep]

An interesting study. As a pretend economist (ABD), almost every single indicator is negative, yet the perception is breaking down by party.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012...nt-of-democrats-believe-economic-news-is-bad/

 

[Sedatedfork]

There are some Romney voters that Obama can't do anything about either..... like Bud Johnson

 

[maxiep]

There are some Romney voters that Obama can't do anything about either..... like Bud Johnson

Yep. Do you think Obama courts his vote?