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I think Felton and Crawford will do much better on their new team.
 
Hedo offered along with Orlando's 12 and 14 picks for Gerald Wallace?
 
RR7 said:
Hedo offered along with Orlando's 12 and 14 picks for Gerald Wallace?
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I'd do that. The 12th and 14th picks in this draft could get you something good. How many more years is Hedo's contract for?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I'd do that. The 12th and 14th picks in this draft could get you something good. How many more years is Hedo's contract for?
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sorry, the 2012 and 2014 picks from orlando.
 
hmm, now trying to find where I saw it last night, maybe it just said 2 1sts, which is slightly different, if they were potentialy getting a 1st elsewhere.

Hedo is owed 11.8 next year, and guaranteed 6 million after that.
 
RR7 said:
sorry, the 2012 and 2014 picks from orlando.
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Oh, oops. That makes more sense. I'm not so sure about the trade then. I'm more of an instant gratification type of person.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Do that now. I think the Blazers want cap space this summer, but the picks would be worth it
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Couldn't we offer G. Wall and Felton for Hedo, Nelson and 12 and 14's pick?

If G. Wallace didn't opt out of his contract; we would be on the hook for 11 mil. This would be a 4 mil hit on our cap space this summer. Maybe we can toss Nolan Smith and Babbit; so we get rid of 2 more mil in guaranteed contracts.

I like the pick idea too. We need as many as we can get so we can trade up to at least a top #10 pick.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Do that now. I think the Blazers want cap space this summer, but the picks would be worth it
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Couldn't we offer G. Wall and Felton for Hedo, Nelson and 12 and 14's pick?

If G. Wallace didn't opt out of his contract; we would be on the hook for 11 mil. This would be a 4 mil hit on our cap space this summer. Maybe we can toss Nolan Smith and Babbit; so we get rid of 2 more mil in guaranteed contracts.

I like the pick idea too. We need as many as we can get so we can trade up to at least a top #10 pick.
 
Stay away from Greedo. His contract sucks some serious ass.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Do that now. I think the Blazers want cap space this summer, but the picks would be worth it
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Hedo has 11.8mil coming in 12-13, and has a player option for 12 mil in 13-14. Are you nuts? That would hurt our cap space this summer.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Hedo has 11.8mil coming in 12-13, and has a player option for 12 mil in 13-14. Are you nuts? That would hurt our cap space this summer.
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If G. Wallace doesn't opt out, then it has no effect on our space. But I don't like Heedo as a player.
 
Ya it does. We not only lose our capspace, but we take on a significantly worse player in Hedo.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Ya it does. We not only lose our capspace, but we take on a significantly worse player in Hedo.
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No it doesn't. G. Wall is guaranteed 12 mil if he doesn't opt out; which is the same as heedo. How you figure it hurts our space if Wallace doesn't opt out of his contract?

I do agree that he is significantly worse than G. Wallace, but he plays a much different game. Wallace, once he loses his athletic ability will drop significantly in value (like kersey). Turk can still have a decent value for years because he's such a great shooter and clutch as well.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Not to mention, if Gerald doesn't opt out, his cap number is 9.5mil.

Hedo's is 11.8.

That's 2mil of capspace gone.

Check the numbers yourself: http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/resources/11-12salaries.htm

We're here nickel and diming over not getting Ridnour's 3mil contract because he'd hurt our capspace, and you guys are okay with Hedo? Makes no sense whatsoever.
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Well Crawford is a guarantee of opting out. Wallace has no guarantee of opting out. I factored his possible incentives on the very same link. My bad for factoring them out.
 
magnifier661 said:
I do agree that he is significantly worse than G. Wallace, but he plays a much different game. Wallace, once he loses his athletic ability will drop significantly in value (like kersey). Turk can still have a decent value for years because he's such a great shooter and clutch as well.
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You really haven't been following him this year, I'm guessing. He has dropped to 40% shooting overall and 35% from three. He sucks.

Orlando is out trying to add him as the cost of trading for Dwight, he's so bad.
 
By the way, I'm no fan of getting Turk. I am replying to the offer of Turk; which for pick reasons; would be a good move. I think we could use G. Wall to get picks from worse teams that have manageable contracts and better picks.
 
I'm perfectly fine with trading G for expiring contracts and decent picks in this draft. Something like Wallace for Kwame + GS's pick would be ideal.

This Hedo thing isn't.
 
Portland acquires Hedo.

Hedo + PA's yacht = Hedo in a speedo.

For pity's sake - just say no!
 
This is cheating because it's not a real rumor. Well, the rumor is that Pau Gasol has said that the Lakers want to trade him for a "young star".

How about this:
Lakers get Carmelo
We get Pau
Knicks get Camby and Gerald.

Reasons for us and the Lakers to do it are obvious. Why would NY do it? Because getting Anthony was a big mistake and since he's come back, the team's gone to shit. Trade him for two defenders whose deals expire at the end of the season (well, Gerald's might not) and you can make a run
(a) for the playoffs
(b) for Dwight Howard in the off-season

Of course, the Knicks would probably rather ditch Stoudemire. I think they might want to ditch both, but you can't have everything.

[I guess I should say SOMETHING about the Lakers and Pau: Gasol is still one of the top 5 big men in the league. He and Aldridge are both versatile enough so that either could play C to the other's PF. It would be GREAT. The only annoyance would be reigniting the anti-Spaniard contingent of Blazer "fans".]
 
Rastapopoulos said:
This is cheating because it's not a real rumor. Well, the rumor is that Pau Gasol has said that the Lakers want to trade him for a "young star".

How about this:
Lakers get Carmelo
We get Pau
Knicks get Camby and Gerald.

Reasons for us and the Lakers to do it are obvious. Why would NY do it? Because getting Anthony was a big mistake and since he's come back, the team's gone to shit. Trade him for two defenders whose deals expire at the end of the season (well, Gerald's might not) and you can make a run
(a) for the playoffs
(b) for Dwight Howard in the off-season

Of course, the Knicks would probably rather ditch Stoudemire. I think they might want to ditch both, but you can't have everything.

[I guess I should say SOMETHING about the Lakers and Pau: Gasol is still one of the top 5 big men in the league. He and Aldridge are both versatile enough so that either could play C to the other's PF. It would be GREAT. The only annoyance would be reigniting the anti-Spaniard contingent of Blazer "fans".]
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Fuck that! That would make the lakers instantly contenders again. I want them to fail and I want our team to stay away from any deal that will make the lakers better. They need to fucking suffer like we have.
 
magnifier661 said:
Fuck that! That would make the lakers instantly contenders again. I want them to fail and I want our team to stay away from any deal that will make the lakers better. They need to fucking suffer like we have.
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I would LOVE that. Kobe is shooting horribly but wants to take shot after shot. Getting another player like Carmello that will just shoot and demand the ball constantly will put those two into a head butting competition that will just like Shaq/Kobe again. Do IT!
 
Rhal said:
I would LOVE that. Kobe is shooting horribly but wants to take shot after shot. Getting another player like Carmello that will just shoot and demand the ball constantly will put those two into a head butting competition that will just like Shaq/Kobe again. Do IT!
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Kobe has maybe 2-3 years left. After he's gone then you let melo superstar your team? Fuck that!
 
Lakers should get Carmelo for a bargain, then trade Kobe for half someone's team. Instant retool.
 
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