<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Kurt Thomas is our top defender, but one man wouldn?t have made the difference and I honestly think we won?t see that much of a difference because we?re terrible defensively. The first rounder was great ? that way we have two next year (three if we don?t make the playoffs).
Kurt Thomas was getting old and interfering with Sweetney?s development. We also got rid of another power forward which is something we really needed to do. There?s no way we would be able to get rid of any other power forward but Kurt Thomas so unless you were cool with our five-man, 6?9 and under, power forward campaign, we needed to get rid of one. So basically it?s keep Kurt and that contract until he turns 37 and keep our power forward of the future from developing, or get a young swingman plus a first round pick.
Q at least gives us a fairly young shooter to spread the floor out. Tim Thomas and Penny are gone tops by deadline and at the very least, we get instant offense off the bench from either Q, or Crawford. It?s not all that bad.</div>
Actually we have three first round draft picks if we make the playoffs and four if we dont(ours, Spurs, Pheonix and our second rounder if/when we dont make the playoffs). But I'm not too excited about next year's draft it doesnt look nearly as deep as this one. And just because he was one of the few players playing defense on the Knicks doesnt mean we should abandon the idea of playing defense. If you're a weak defensive team if you dont remove the players who play defense you add players who do.
Kurt Thomas was not in any way shape or form hindering Sweetney's development. And sure we needed to move a powerforward or two but Kurt Thomas??? We could have just gotten a center and had Kurt Thomas back up Sweetney while Rose played back up center(or vice versa).
Q is not a sharpshooter. He's a volume shooter. I was very unimpressed with him this past season. We definetely could have gotten a better deal somewhere. If not we could have just hung on to him. Q's contract is longer than Kurt's and he's not even that good. Isiah's moves make no sense.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 02civic:</div><div class="quote_post">I think this is a good deal for both teams....probably more in favour of NYK. The Knicks get rid of one of their 6 powerforwards who was due to make a ton of money till he was 37 years old!!! They get a talented young player with an inside outside game and years to develop farther. He does need to become more aggressive offensively, sure he's a chucker but Knicks forum fans have been celebrating Crawford for the past year so why not Q? I dont think NY could of gotten any more from any other team in the league given Thomas age and contract length.
Also i thinK KT's defence is very overrated. He's a better than man on man defender but not terrific or anything and he's not a shot blocking presence or great weak side defender(merely average). That said he's still valuable, but not indespensible. The Knicks traded a promising center in Nazr(who now starts at center for a finalist team) for a HORRIBLE contract and what are basically 2 second round picks. I certainly dont think this deal is as bad as the Nazr deal or the Taylor deal both of which were supported by the fans on this forum.</div>
I hope by Knicks forum fans you arent including me because Crawford's chucking makes me sick and I'm not too happy about adding another one. Having a chucker is bad enough having two is a nightmare.
I backed the Nazr deal because of the two draft picks. Those are first round draft picks by the way, one of which is in one of the deepest drafts we've had in awhile. If the draft picks werent included I would have been mad. The Taylor deal was just plain lousy. It was stupid. I hated it the moment I found out about it. Q's contract is longer Kurt Thomas's(I thought we were trying to get under the cap), he doesnt help where the Knicks needed help, he doesnt really bring anything the Knicks need and he doesnt play defense. The Knicks offense was not the problem, the defense was and the problem has gotten even worse. Now I have to put up that stupid thing he does with his fists everytime he hits a three which will probably be one in every five(or six) shot attempts.
I hate Isiah...
Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
