Running list of prospects meeting/working out with Portland

[blazerkor]

I’ll bet Duren goes ahead of Sochan

Like I just said, this is a really tough draft to predict. San Antonio might like Sochan better than Duren for what they need and could take Sochan at 9 leaving Duren picked after him.

 

[Idog1976]

I honestly am fine with just taking Duren or Sochan and getting on with our lives. It scares me to think about moving back, getting the draft order off and missing out on Sochan Duren and Eason.

 

[blazerkor]

I honestly am fine with just taking Duren or Sochan and getting on with our lives. It scares me to think about moving back, getting the draft order off and missing out on Sochan Duren and Eason.

When considering trading back you have to look at the draft boards.

ESPN has it:

• Chet Holmgren
• Jabari Smith
• Paolo Banchero
• Jaden Ivey
• Keegan Murray
• Dyson Daniels
• Shaedon Sharpe
• Bennedict Mathurin
• A.J. Griffin
• Jalen Duren
• Johnny Davis
• Ousmane Dieng
• Malaki Branham
• Mark Williams
• Jeremy Sochan
• Ochai Agbaji
• TyTy Washington Jr
• Tari Eason

So I think we could likely trade all the way back to 13 and 15 but still get one of the guys you like. There are a lot of different players in this draft that will appeal to different GMs.

 

[Natebishop3]

When considering trading back you have to look at the draft boards.

ESPN has it:

• Chet Holmgren
• Jabari Smith
• Paolo Banchero
• Jaden Ivey
• Keegan Murray
• Dyson Daniels
• Shaedon Sharpe
• Bennedict Mathurin
• A.J. Griffin
• Jalen Duren
• Johnny Davis
• Ousmane Dieng
• Malaki Branham
• Mark Williams
• Jeremy Sochan
• Ochai Agbaji
• TyTy Washington Jr
• Tari Eason

So I think we could likely trade all the way back to 13 and 15 but still get one of the guys you like. There are a lot of different players in this draft that will appeal to different GMs.

Sharpe is a pretty nice boom or bust option.

 

[BBert]

Is it weird that I scheduled off work for draft day and usually do every year?

If it is, then I'm just as weird. I take off work early and go into lock down. No one is permitted to disturb me. I gave up on draft parties years ago. Too distracting.

 

[BBert]

I’ll bet Duren goes ahead of Sochan

If we were certain he'd still be available at 9, perhaps that Spurs trade that has been mentioned would be a strong move.

 

[blazerfan11]

Sharpe is a pretty nice boom or bust option.

I think Daniels is boom or bust too, depending on where he gets picked.

 

[santeesioux]

 

[illmatic99]

ugh. just due diligence i hope.

 

[Freshtown]

I don’t understand what the point of solo workouts are. Wouldn’t you want them to at least scrimmage with other NBA talent?

Solo workouts are, I believe, one of the things that led to Darko going #2. Amazing moves and shooting in an empty gym, not so much against competition.

 

[illmatic99]

I don’t understand what the point of solo workouts are. Wouldn’t you want them to at least scrimmage with other NBA talent?

Solo workouts are, I believe, one of the things that led to Darko going #2. Amazing moves and shooting in an empty gym, not so much against competition.

dame also did a solo workout here and when asked about it, he said he liked the idea of having the entire focus and pressure on solely him and not others. he also didn't want to duck any drills so that they could work him out harder, rather than sharing the workload. i think the solo workouts also give teams more of a chance to get closer and interview the guys in house which could be useful.

on most of these guys, there's enough footage of them going up against competition that it's not like Yi going up against a chair is the only time FOs have seen them.

I kinda like the idea of individual workouts.

 

[illmatic99]

Sorry to make too much of this clip, but this is terrible.



Every attempt looks different as his stroke seems hard to replicate. It's also like everything else about him: slow and mechanical.

We better not draft him. Unlike my feelings about drafting Duren only if we move back, I just don't want Griffin anywhere. Period.

 

[illmatic99]

OK, this is a first to see a guy of Dame's stature directly involved in predraft workouts.

Check out the stories on the team's ig:

 

[Freshtown]

OK, this is a first to see a guy of Dame's stature directly involved in predraft workouts.

Check out the stories on the team's ig:

this makes me feel slightly better that trading the pick for whoever has the best offer on draft night is not a foregone conclusion—that if we like someone, we’re secure enough to draft that player instead of desperately flipping it for whatever vet is being offered.

 

[illmatic99]

so this is better:

And more Dame involvement:

 

[HansenYang]

Sorry to make too much of this clip, but this is terrible.



Every attempt looks different as his stroke seems hard to replicate. It's also like everything else about him: slow and mechanical.

We better not draft him. Unlike my feelings about drafting Duren only if we move back, I just don't want Griffin anywhere. Period.

He has a lot of lower body movement. On every shot he jumps forward ~2 feet.

He has an outstanding shooting % in college, but I dont think it translates

 

[BBert]

Sorry to make too much of this clip, but this is terrible.


That's the "highlight" of his workout they chose to post? Ugh

Every attempt looks different as his stroke seems hard to replicate. It's also like everything else about him: slow and mechanical.

We better not draft him. Unlike my feelings about drafting Duren only if we move back, I just don't want Griffin anywhere. Period.

 

[BBert]

He has a lot of lower body movement. On every shot he jumps forward ~2 feet.

He has an outstanding shooting % in college, but I dont think it translates

What's the deal with his left foot placement? Terrible form.

 

[James lamphear]

Absolutely. Duran can chase a guy down full court and get a block. He is in a different class athletically compared to Williams.

I guess you never seen him running down court he not fastest big I ever seen. Williams going be better big in the league he has played against better competition then Duren and as impressive.

 

[illmatic99]

i dunno man. really not a great first impression. maybe i'm overthinking it.

 

[Pinwheel1]

i dunno man. really not a great first impression. maybe i'm overthinking it.

Ha , you clearly are not the only one on this board that is overthinking things when it comes to critiquing these kids.

 

[blazerfan11]

AJ Griffin's shooting numbers are incredible. 44.7% 3-point shooting on 4.1 attempts per game, 54.7% on 2-pointers, and 79.2 % on free throws.

i dunno man. really not a great first impression. maybe i'm overthinking it.

You're not overthinking it.
"Duke got carved up whenever he was guarding the PNR."
Go to the 7:11 mark in this video. It's not pretty.

 

[JDC]

AJG Synergy numbers are bonkers

99th %ile in the halfcourt (1.2 PPP)
98th %ile for all offensive possessions (1.18 PPP)
97th %ile on jumpers (1.27 PPP, 169 poss)
96th %ile on 3s (1.34 PPP, 137 poss)
95th %ile on C&S 3s(1.37 PPP, 105 poss)
95th %ile on OTD 3s (1.13 PPP, 64 poss)
93rd %ile on C&S unguarded (1.54 PPP, 43 poss)
89th %ile on C&S guarded (1.24 PPP, 62 poss)
88th %ile around the basket (1.37 PPP, 57poss)

 

[JDC]

I'm done for the most part questioning mechanics when we're dealing with this level of shooter.

I had issues with Desmond Bane mechanically and he's already one of the best shooters in the league.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I don’t understand what the point of solo workouts are. Wouldn’t you want them to at least scrimmage with other NBA talent?

Solo workouts are, I believe, one of the things that led to Darko going #2. Amazing moves and shooting in an empty gym, not so much against competition.

And this is why I want nothing to do with Sharpe.

With Griffen we at least have history of him playing 5-on-5 against real competition.

 

[Scalma]

And this is why I want nothing to do with Sharpe.

With Griffen we at least have history of him playing 5-on-5 against real competition.

weird logic, probably how one ends up drafting CJ McCollum over Giannis.

 

[JDC]

Per PD Web (Great Twitter follow, now works at Cerebrosports, helping scout and build high school stat databases) has AJ Griffin's career HS/EYBL 3p% at 43.9% (61 games 108/246).

 

[illmatic99]

And this is why I want nothing to do with Sharpe.

With Griffen we at least have history of him playing 5-on-5 against real competition.

Dame did a solo workout with every team before the 2012 workout.

I'm more concerned with Sharpe working out period, don't really care if it's solo or otherwise.

The only team I've gotten wind of is that he's going to do one with the Pistons (and apparently the Pels).

 

[blazerfan11]

In AJ Griffin's last 10 games at Duke, on 3-point shots, he shot: 1-3, 1-3, 0-1, 4-6, 1-8, 2-7, 1-3, 3-7, 2-3, 0-4. That's 15 - 45, which is 33 percent.

 

[TBpup]

In AJ Griffin's last 10 games at Duke, on 3-point shots, he shot: 1-3, 1-3, 0-1, 4-6, 1-8, 2-7, 1-3, 3-7, 2-3, 0-4. That's 15 - 45, which is 33 percent.

Started out like a house of fire, but dramatically cooled off towards the end to be sure.