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PICTURED: 'Unsociable' student gunman who pulled semi-pistol out of backpack on his 16th birthday and unloaded on five classmates in CA high school, killing two, before attempting suicide
  • Shooting was reported at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita at 7.45am
  • Suspect described as 16-year-old Asian male in dark clothing was taken into custody and was being treated for self-inflicted gunshot would to the head
  • Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva says first responders initially mistook the suspect for a victim because he was found shot alongside them
  • A 16-year-old girl and a 14-year-old boy were shot to death; surviving victims were described as two girls, ages 14 and 15, and a boy aged 14
  • Officers seized .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol that had no rounds left in it
  • Suspect's mother and girlfriend are being questioned and are said to be cooperating with the investigation
  • Gunman's childhood friend said the 16-year-old lost his father a year ago
  • Vigil for those hurt in the shooting will take place in Central Park in Santa Clarita at 7pm Sunday
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nia-high-school-lockdown-six-people-shot.html
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Gunman's childhood friend said the 16-year-old lost his father a year ago
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It has been young white kid without a father time after time up until now. Now we have an Asian kid. I do wish we could narrow this down a bit faster than one incident at a time.

The gun the kid used has been around over a 100 years now. 50 years ago, he could have bought it, but not now.

Some how this kid did not get what he needs, really need to drill down on this fail.
 
Why does it seem like it's always gotta be, "Gun legislation, ban all the guns, guns are the problem!" or, "Mental Health, Autism, whatever".
It seems to me like that there are 200M adults in the US that we could figure out that there is a middle ground to this could lead to actual action that would at least show action towards doing something. Gun legislation, keeping guns out of volatile people's hands, keeping guns from people who can't use them responsibly. Keeping them from the hands of children, that seems absolutely 100% reasonable. Working on mental health issues, understanding the effects of technology on children, identifying kids with issues not to punish them, but to HELP them. All that stuff seems reasonable too. Too many people only want to talk about doing "one" of those things and want to ignore the other aspect of it... It's like people feel like if one side gets their way it steps on their agenda. The agenda shouldn't be taking your guns, keeping your guns, shunning kids with mental illnesses, driving the outcasts further away from society. The agenda should be making society safer, keeping our kids safe, keeping adults safe.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Why does it seem like it's always gotta be, "Gun legislation, ban all the guns, guns are the problem!" or, "Mental Health, Autism, whatever".
It seems to me like that there are 200M adults in the US that we could figure out that there is a middle ground to this could lead to actual action that would at least show action towards doing something. Gun legislation, keeping guns out of volatile people's hands, keeping guns from people who can't use them responsibly. Keeping them from the hands of children, that seems absolutely 100% reasonable. Working on mental health issues, understanding the effects of technology on children, identifying kids with issues not to punish them, but to HELP them. All that stuff seems reasonable too. Too many people only want to talk about doing "one" of those things and want to ignore the other aspect of it... It's like people feel like if one side gets their way it steps on their agenda. The agenda shouldn't be taking your guns, keeping your guns, shunning kids with mental illnesses, driving the outcasts further away from society. The agenda should be making society safer, keeping our kids safe, keeping adults safe.
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I dont know a single anti-gun person who doesn't ALSO advocate for mental health improvements. We would like stricter gun laws and more mental health funding, and required for our youth.
 
calvin natt said:
I dont know a single anti-gun person who doesn't ALSO advocate for mental health improvements. We would like stricter gun laws and more mental health funding, and required for our youth.
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Maybe it's just my anecdotal experience, but every one of these conversations I see or hear always tends to boil down to someone yelling about guns, and someone yelling about Mental health, and someone yelling it's not the guns, and someone else yelling about how angry they are. Yelling is probably the incorrect word, but that tends to be what I get out of it, just a lot of yelling, and very little listening and coming up with constructive plans that would actually lead to actions.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Maybe it's just my anecdotal experience, but every one of these conversations I see or hear always tends to boil down to someone yelling about guns, and someone yelling about Mental health, and someone yelling it's not the guns, and someone else yelling about how angry they are. Yelling is probably the incorrect word, but that tends to be what I get out of it, just a lot of yelling, and very little listening and coming up with constructive plans that would actually lead to actions.
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and the end result is the republican congress refuses to do anything out of fear of the NRA. That's the most pathetic and sad excuse around.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Maybe it's just my anecdotal experience, but every one of these conversations I see or hear always tends to boil down to someone yelling about guns, and someone yelling about Mental health, and someone yelling it's not the guns, and someone else yelling about how angry they are. Yelling is probably the incorrect word, but that tends to be what I get out of it, just a lot of yelling, and very little listening and coming up with constructive plans that would actually lead to actions.
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I yell about all those things. Except, I am probably more anti gun than anyone. I wish we had the strictest laws possible for gun owners. It should be hard to get one, and keeping one should come with a list of requirements as well. But I also think schools need better security, kids need more mental health attention, and parents need to be more responsible.
 
calvin natt said:
I yell about all those things. Except, I am probably more anti gun than anyone. I wish we had the strictest laws possible for gun owners. It should be hard to get one, and keeping one should come with a list of requirements as well. But I also think schools need better security, kids need more mental health attention, and parents need to be more responsible.
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FWIW I was not pointing that comment at you, it was way more broad than just S2, or a poster on S2.
 
calvin natt said:
I am probably more anti gun than anyone.
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You remind me of the dudes in my boot camp company. About half of them from NYC and the other half from Chicago. All city boys but for me and one Cajun.
Man, the city boys where hip as all hell, could run their mouth all day with the right thing to say!:blush: It was funny as hell.

The cajun boy and I formed a sort of natural allied relationship pretty damn soon.

As the training progress is be came clear, the city boys didn't know shit, could not do shit!

Most couldn't swim, or hold it together.

Then came training with a rifle. Holy hell, they all fucking freaked out.

The Cajun and I were both impressed with the fine weapon the M1 Grande rifle was. I truly thought it to be the finest I had ever held.
Could not wait to get on the firing line with this peace in my hands.

This finely happened at camp Pendelton, a Marine Sargent on the firing line directing each man shooting to qualify as a Rifleman.
Our company Chief sent us up to the firing line one at a time. I was last, the Cajun right before me.

Those city boys were scared shitless of that rifle, most could hardly get a round down range, forget about the target.
The Sargent did not waste a hell of lot of time with the most of them. The were destined to swab, I suspect.
When it finally came my turn, it was a scene exactly like the one in the movie Sargent York when he did the same in training.
I fired the first round with the M1. I was sure it was a bull, but they waved it off as a miss down in the pits.
What? Sargent! There must be something wrong!
So the Sargent call for a recheck.
Ah! Bulls-eye!

He flips me a full stripper clip of 06 ammo, an says, rapid fire! Let see what you've got.

I didn't learn about the Gary Cooper role of Sargent York until some years later.:cool2:
 
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MarAzul said:
You remind me of the dudes in my boot camp company. About half of them from NYC and the other half from Chicago. All city boys but for me and one Cajun.
Man, the city boys where hip as all hell, could run their mouth all day with the right thing to say!:blush: It was funny as hell.

The cajun boy and I formed a sort of natural allied relationship pretty damn soon.
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WTF?!? I always assumed you fought for the Confederacy.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Why does it seem like it's always gotta be, "Gun legislation, ban all the guns, guns are the problem!" or, "Mental Health, Autism, whatever".
It seems to me like that there are 200M adults in the US that we could figure out that there is a middle ground to this could lead to actual action that would at least show action towards doing something. Gun legislation, keeping guns out of volatile people's hands, keeping guns from people who can't use them responsibly. Keeping them from the hands of children, that seems absolutely 100% reasonable. Working on mental health issues, understanding the effects of technology on children, identifying kids with issues not to punish them, but to HELP them. All that stuff seems reasonable too. Too many people only want to talk about doing "one" of those things and want to ignore the other aspect of it... It's like people feel like if one side gets their way it steps on their agenda. The agenda shouldn't be taking your guns, keeping your guns, shunning kids with mental illnesses, driving the outcasts further away from society. The agenda should be making society safer, keeping our kids safe, keeping adults safe.
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Yes, IMO, our problem is not a gun problem but instead, it's a cultural problem.
 
yankeesince59 said:
That's fine, but how will you legislate keeping guns out of the hands of criminals?
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make gun owners scared shitless about what would happen if they don’t know where their guns are. No more little Timmy grabbing dads gun. Anyone caught with a gun who doesn’t have their permit or whatever the fuck it is gets huge fine and jail time. Just make everything devastatingly harsh for anyone who isn’t completely buttoned up with their gun. This shouldn’t scare anyone who is doing it right
 
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