Science and Religion questions (1 Viewer)

[ABM]

That's a cute site. Here's another helpful link they have there:

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/WhyAtheism.htm

I'll take my chances, thanks.

 

[TripTango]

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm

Wow -- that page is even better than it seemed at first glance. I encourage you to read through all of the proofs. Here's a nice sample:

ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
(1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die.
(2) I'm afraid of that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1) [arbitrary passage from OT]
(2) [arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid atheists; it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE
(1) Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys — you're obviously very well read. But I read the Bible, and nothing you say can convince me that God does not exist. I feel him in my heart, and you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into your life. "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth." John 3:16.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

 

[ABM]

Wow -- that page is even better than it seemed at first glance. I encourage you to read through all of the proofs. Here's a nice sample:

ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
(1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die.
(2) I'm afraid of that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1) [arbitrary passage from OT]
(2) [arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid atheists; it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE
(1) Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys — you're obviously very well read. But I read the Bible, and nothing you say can convince me that God does not exist. I feel him in my heart, and you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into your life. "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth." John 3:16.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

Ya THINK?!

 

[TripTango]

ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY
(1) There is a website that successfully argues for the existence of God.
(2) Here is the URL.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY
(1) Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba snurgleschnortz ping!
(2) No one has ever refuted (1).
(3) Therefore, God exists.

FROM SMUGNESS
(1) God exists.
(2) I don't give a crap whether you believe it or not; I have better things to do than to try to convince you morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM META-SMUGNESS
(1) Fuck you.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

 

[ABM]

ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY
(1) There is a website that successfully argues for the existence of God.
(2) Here is the URL.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY
(1) Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba snurgleschnortz ping!
(2) No one has ever refuted (1).
(3) Therefore, God exists.

FROM SMUGNESS
(1) God exists.
(2) I don't give a crap whether you believe it or not; I have better things to do than to try to convince you morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM META-SMUGNESS
(1) Fuck you.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

1)Lampooning is fun
2) Therefore, God exists

 

[ABM]

1)Lampooning is fun
2) Therefore, God exists

And, of course, I jest....I jest.

 

[magnifier661]

Dude trip; he was posting a joke. You should have known when you read the actual link. They don't support theism! Lol

 

[TripTango]

I think that page literally has every "proof" ever attempted on S2. Incredible. Waitaminit -- mags, is this your true source of rhetorical fuel?

 

[magnifier661]

I think that page literally has every "proof" ever attempted on S2. Incredible. Waitaminit -- mags, is this your true source of rhetorical fuel?

Lol! I've never seen that site before!

 

[TripTango]

Dude trip; he was posting a joke. You should have known when you read the actual link. They don't support theism! Lol

Hey, the first handful were legit! I wasn't initially inclined to plow through hundreds more...

 

[magnifier661]

Hey, the first handful were legit! I wasn't initially inclined to plow through hundreds more...

The first 4 are William lane Craig's debate outline.

 

[TripTango]

The first 4 are William lane Craig's debate outline.

They predate Craig by centuries.

 

[magnifier661]

They predate Craig by centuries.

I'm just explaining what it is.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY
(1) Eric Clapton is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

OPRAH'S ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Check out this video segment.
(2) Now how can anyone watch that and NOT believe in God?
(3) Therefore, God exists.

 

[TripTango]

I'm just explaining what it is.

Me too.

 

[ABM]

Me too.

As Freud might argue, id is what id is.

 

[TripTango]

As Freud might argue, id is what id is.

You've used that already, ABM -- we demand fresh material!

 

[ABM]

You've used that already, ABM -- we demand fresh material!

Glad you were paying attention.

 

[TripTango]

Glad you were paying attention.

I study your posts like they were gospel, ABM.

 

[ABM]

I study your posts like they were gospel, ABM.

It only counts, though, if you take them to heart. Now, bend on one knee and repeat after me....

 

[TripTango]

It only counts, though, if you take them to heart. Now, bend on one knee and repeat after me....

I take everything to heart, but I've already danced that dance. Thank you for the invitation though, truly.

 

[ABM]

I take everything to heart, but I've already danced that dance.

Ahh. You tripped when you tango'd?

 

[TripTango]

Ahh. You tripped when you tango'd?

Well, it always does take two.

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[SlyPokerDog]

Faith

 

[jlprk]

Well guess what? Science say that matter cannot be made from non matter. That means the beginning; with current science; something or someone put that matter there that is outside of matter.

I don't have all the answers; but I do know what I've studied already. And what I've studied is mass, energy or matter must have always existed in order for a non-god creation. Science has taught me that mass, energy or matter cannot be created without mass, energy or matter creating it.

You must be referring to the law of Conservation of Energy. But science could easily find an exception to this for the Big Bang. For example, I posit that at that moment, the lower 3 dimensions streamed out of the higher dimensions.

You should take Physics 101 at a community college. Then you could debate this issue much better.

 

[ABM]

I take everything to heart, but I've already danced that dance. Thank you for the invitation though, truly.

That was a terribly facetious remark for which I apologize. On a much more serious/sensitive note, in saying what you've said here, do you feel that God let you down at some point in time? I ask that because you followed that remark with,"it always does take two".

Thanks

 

[magnifier661]

You must be referring to the law of Conservation of Energy. But science could easily find an exception to this for the Big Bang. For example, I posit that at that moment, the lower 3 dimensions streamed out of the higher dimensions.

You should take Physics 101 at a community college. Then you could debate this issue much better.

Easily? Please show me something observed that would support this claim? Something theoretical will not work.

Because if you allow theoretical, then I can say "easy, the Easter bunny shits out mass from non mass all day long", as long as I can make it sound all smart like and logical!

Your slight of hand is no good here.

 

[TripTango]

Something theoretical will not work.

Ironically, conservation of energy is itself theoretical, and never intended to be applied the way you are attempting.

 

[magnifier661]

Ironically, conservation of energy is itself theoretical, and never intended to be applied the way you are attempting.

So you're saying conservation of energy has not been observed? We see it every day.

Here is a easy observation of conservation of energy.

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t.answers.com

Hitting a nail on its head. The amount of energy used to hit the hammer is equally returned. As I asked jlpk, I want to see an observed example of mass not requiring mass to create mass? Don't use what you used the other day either, because energy is mass!

 

[TripTango]

So you're saying conservation of energy has not been observed? We see it every day.

You also see cars every day. Does that mean that every planet in the universe has cars?