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Ripcity4life77 said:
I do not know if this training vid means anything outside of he is continuing to try and get better and only time will tell if we see the fruits of his hard work. However at least we know he is trying and gotta be honest not as sure about another player -- Sharpe who SEEMS and I could be wrong just wants to rest on the fact he is a freak athlete and HOPE he gets better.

I will tell you this I would rather gamble on Scoot then Sharpe at this point cause one shows dedication to his craft while the other has kind of flat lined in terms of growth but I hope he can prove me wrong.
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Flat lined? Sharpe has upped his scoring both years and last year, he did it fewer minutes.
 
inconceivable said:
wasn't fisher a coach at some point? he's pretty detailed in teaching scoot, hope scoot learns lot from him
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I've accumulated more than 200 coaching videos and probably 100 books from my years coaching. I still try to pick up some videos every year just to stay up to date on the latest training and strategy trends.

Some of these trainers that you don't ever hear about are amazing teachers of the finer points and nuances of skills. These guys that teach NBA players are so precise in their areas of expertise.

I always thought NBA coaches got a bad rap from people that thought college coaches were so much better as teachers of the game. I think it's the exact opposite. I think it shows because you have a lot more average pro coaches who have extraordinary success when they go to college than those that go the other direction. I think it's because with pro players there are so many other distractions and games and your time is limited and you really have to become expert at managing people who are making more money than you are and also at implementing gameplans and individual workouts while playing 82 games and traveling.

The best teacher of the game or at least the best at imparting knowledge on the DVDs and doing the hour talk at camps that I ever saw was Hubie Brown. Brown had such a gift for making difficult concepts easy to understand and showing you things that you never thought about that made a difference in games. I always tell young coaches to invest in his videos and books because you'll learn things about basketball that, even if you played most of your life, you never dreamed up.
 
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LayneStaley said:
Rick Fox was the guy I hated the most before Draymond came on the scene.
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Good lord, I *still* hate that guy.

No longer hate Kobe (and not because he died), no longer hate Shaq, Fisher, Magic, Scott, Worthy, Rambis, Kareem, Green, etc...but I still, to this day, hate that fucker Rick Fox.
 
Natebishop3 said:
You have been pretty consistently cynical about Joe Cronin :dunno:
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There is a difference between being critical of the GM for moves that are mistakes, and commenting negatively about a guy clearly working hard on his weaknesses.
 
Derek Fisher Mentoring Scoot, Now we need Shaedon to go to Hakeem Olajuwon turnaround fadeaway jump shot just like Kobe do every summer.
 
illmatic99 said:
There is a difference between being critical of the GM for moves that are mistakes, and commenting negatively about a guy clearly working hard on his weaknesses.
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Which GMs right now would you take over Joe?
 
Indy has been impressive but that ownership is the worst in the NBA so again might depend where the line is.

Bos, CLE, ATL, Hou, SAS, OKC, LAC, GSW, MIN all have pretty good arguments over PDX.

Probably have to put LAL there just with stealing Luka and new owner big pockets.

I really like some of Cronin moves but if our youth doesn't improve our roster suddenly isn't impressive at all.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Indy has been impressive but that ownership is the worst in the NBA so again might depend where the line is.

Bos, CLE, ATL, Hou, SAS, OKC, LAC, GSW, MIN all have pretty good arguments over PDX.

Probably have to put LAL there just with stealing Luka and new owner big pockets.

I really like some of Cronin moves but if our youth doesn't improve our roster suddenly isn't impressive at all.
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I wouldn’t put GSW over us. This isn’t the same front office that built that contender. Their draft picks have sucked. They’re squandering the remaining years of Curry.

What has SAS done besides luck into insane draft picks? They’re not good. They’re lucky.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I wouldn’t put GSW over us. This isn’t the same front office that built that contender. Their draft picks have sucked. They’re squandering the remaining years of Curry.

What has SAS done besides luck into insane draft picks? They’re not good. They’re lucky.
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GSW won that 2022 title and made moves to be great down the stretch last season. I think it's super impressive how long they've been in the mix. It's the same ownership and Dunleavy was an assistant GM before. It's impressive how they own all their future picks too.

SAS have built a nice haul of picks. Got Fox for cheap. I think they're in position to make a contending leap at any moment. Plenty of franchises with a generational talent have screwed that up or been too impatient.

I'm not saying all those teams are guarantees to have better management - just that they have a good argument that they do.

The Blazers overpaid useless vets was a total waste of cap and many years of the rebuild. Dame trades were excellent though. Blazers youth progress will really determine Cronin and Blazers front office grade. A couple of them greatly improve and Blazers look like a bunch of genius's. They all flop and we might have to completely rebuild again in a few years.
 
I think you could probably make a case that around half of the NBA teams have a better management situation as Portland. It might change a bit if you're projecting the future 2-5 years based on current rosters and draft assets

but for sure 29 other NBA teams aren't for sale and didn't just have the NBA commissioner implicitly open the door to the team moving. That kind of trumps any subjective argument about which GM's are smarter
 
wizenheimer said:
I think you could probably make a case that around half of the NBA teams have a better management situation as Portland. It might change a bit if you're projecting the future 2-5 years based on current rosters and draft assets

but for sure 29 other NBA teams aren't for sale and didn't just have the NBA commissioner implicitly open the door to the team moving. That kind of trumps any subjective argument about which GM's are smarter
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Not sure I recall how the commish opened the door for the team to move? I havent been able to keep up on all nba stuff of late.
 
SharpesTriumph said:
GSW won that 2022 title and made moves to be great down the stretch last season. I think it's super impressive how long they've been in the mix. It's the same ownership and Dunleavy was an assistant GM before. It's impressive how they own all their future picks too.

SAS have built a nice haul of picks. Got Fox for cheap. I think they're in position to make a contending leap at any moment. Plenty of franchises with a generational talent have screwed that up or been too impatient.

I'm not saying all those teams are guarantees to have better management - just that they have a good argument that they do.

The Blazers overpaid useless vets was a total waste of cap and many years of the rebuild. Dame trades were excellent though. Blazers youth progress will really determine Cronin and Blazers front office grade. A couple of them greatly improve and Blazers look like a bunch of genius's. They all flop and we might have to completely rebuild again in a few years.
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Yes the Warriors won recently but now they have a different GM. I guess we will see. You can say all the other pieces are the same, but look at the stark difference between the Olshey Blazers and the Cronin Blazers. Night and day. Too early to tell.

Personally I have thought San Antonio has been overrated since Duncan left. That Kawhi situation was a disaster. Would they really be in a good spot right now without Wemby?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yes the Warriors won recently but now they have a different GM. I guess we will see. You can say all the other pieces are the same, but look at the stark difference between the Olshey Blazers and the Cronin Blazers. Night and day. Too early to tell.

Personally I have thought San Antonio has been overrated since Duncan left. That Kawhi situation was a disaster. Would they really be in a good spot right now without Wemby?
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Can take away the best move of any team the last 5 years and it will look totally different. Spurs still have a ton of other great young pieces besides Wemby - plus a boatload of picks.

Remove our best move - look at the Blazers roster if we never made the Dame trade;

Nurk Clingan Yang
Grant
Thybulle
Sharpe
Ant Scoot Dame(Supermax)

That doesn't look any better than the Olshey era - might even be worse.
 
 
Hoopguru said:
Not sure that opens a door?
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c'mon man....the NBA commissioner spoke about the 'pending' sale of the Blazers and twice said the NBA's "preference" was to keep the Blazers in Portland at the same time he essentially said the team needs a new arena. So, does no new arena mean that preference is no longer in place? That's damning with faint praise and it absolutely opened the possibility of Portland ending up on the same track as the Sonics

will it happen? Probably less than 50-50 chance. But before Silver opened his mouth most would have thought it couldn't happen. Now we know it might
 
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