OT Selective cancel culture

[e_blazer]

And that's fine if those future people conclude that. It's their absolutely their choice to make.

Just as it is fine for current people to make judgements about the past.

barfo

Pretty much everyone agrees pirates are worthless scoundrels.

 

[donkiez]

Statues are just symbols and symbols mean different things to different people. Some people think these symbols are offensive and having them displayed in public places is glorifying horrible acts done to their ancestors that they still feel today. To other people the symbols are just important historical figures who did great things for our country. If you care more about a symbol than people who are actually alive then you need to reevaluate your priorities in life. If you demand that these symbols stay where they are then you are asking for someone to eventually destroy them. If you care about your symbol then just put it in a museum where it can be safe and the other people who care can all go see it together and talk about the history of it that they appreciate. You don't leave it out to taunt people who don't see the world as you do unless you don't care about those people.

 

[Minstrel]

We don't need to and shouldn't "whitewash" history. Statues aren't history, they're memorials. They're signs of respect and honor. It's not whitewashing anything to remove statues for people we, as a society, don't deem worthy of that respect and honor, even if previous generations of society did consider them worthy.

Our history books should be as informative and complete and truthful as we can make them. Our statues and monuments should convey the principles we consider worth memorializing. Statues and monuments are no place for the "both sides" worldview, when one of those sides stood for the dehumanization of a significant chunk of our population.

 

[Lanny]

Shall we rank holocausts?

It sort of reminds me a the mothers in the 80s that said, "Clean your plate! There are children starving in Ethiopia!" It's too abstract to be meaningful.

Besides, what's happening right now, is happening right now, in our streets and in front of our faces. And it is an American problem. It's pertinent to us, Americans.

To me, it seems, you just don't like what's happening.

My mother was saying that in the '50s and she wasn't alone. One difference, back then it was China.

 

[Lanny]

We don't need to and shouldn't "whitewash" history. Statues aren't history, they're memorials. They're signs of respect and honor. It's not whitewashing anything to remove statues for people we, as a society, don't deem worthy of that respect and honor, even if previous generations of society did consider them worthy.

Our history books should be as informative and complete and truthful as we can make them. Our statues and monuments should convey the principles we consider worth memorializing. Statues and monuments are no place for the "both sides" worldview, when one of those sides stood for the dehumanization of a significant chunk of our population.

Perhaps we could relegate such statues to a museum for historical reference.

 

[Haakzilla]

https://www.espn.com/olympics/story...shi-fired-holocaust-joke-made-1998-comedy-act

Olympic opening ceremony director Kentaro Kobayashi fired for Holocaust joke made during 1998 comedy act

 

[Lanny]

Shall we rank holocausts?

It sort of reminds me a the mothers in the 80s that said, "Clean your plate! There are children starving in Ethiopia!" It's too abstract to be meaningful.

Besides, what's happening right now, is happening right now, in our streets and in front of our faces. And it is an American problem. It's pertinent to us, Americans.

To me, it seems, you just don't like what's happening.

I was smack dab in the middle of the generation of mothers who told their children to clean their plates but I clearly recall that it was clean our plates because people were starving in China. I disliked eating generally in those years and was so skinny that my father asked our family doctor about it. The doctor told him not to worry and that I would eat when I got hungry. Now, I over eat and am too heavy. Thanks dad,

 

[Shaboid]

Olympics opening ceremony director sacked for Holocaust joke

I don't have problem with this, but favorite part about this article is:

• In March, Olympics' creative chief Hiroshi Sasaki quit after suggesting that plus-size comedian Naomi Watanabe could appear as an "Olympig". He later apologised

"Olympig" is kind of hilarious. I know a certain camera guy who might need to be called this.

 

[Chris Craig]

I was smack dab in the middle of the generation of mothers who told their children to clean their plates but I clearly recall that it was clean our plates because people were starving in China. I disliked eating generally in those years and was so skinny that my father asked our family doctor about it. The doctor told him not to worry and that I would eat when I got hungry. Now, I over eat and am too heavy. Thanks dad,

Oh yes, I remember being told I needed to eat everything on my plate and that the kids in China or Africa were starving and would eat it all quickly.

My dad often made me sit at the table till I ate what was left on my plate...usually some vegetable I did not like. Sometime I slept at the table. Can you guess what breakfast was the next morning?

 

[Shaboid]

NASA investigates renaming James Webb telescope after anti-LGBT+ claims

Sounds like the guy was a raging homophobe, so yeah, might wanna rename it. They should change the name from James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) to Social Justice Warrior Telescope (SJWT).

 

[jonnyboy]

I challenge someone to find a civilization or people who’s history doesn’t include advancement through war, colonization, slavery or other forms of brutality. None of those things are good and they should probably go away, but the point stands that none of our ancestors’ hands are clean, regardless of whatever skin tones occupy your family tree this century.

 

[Lanny]

Oh yes, I remember being told I needed to eat everything on my plate and that the kids in China or Africa were starving and would eat it all quickly.

My dad often made me sit at the table till I ate what was left on my plate...usually some vegetable I did not like. Sometime I slept at the table. Can you guess what breakfast was the next morning?

I never had to eat it for breakfast. Now before you tell me how lucky I was guess what I had every bit of at dinner. Yeah, that's right spinach and my cod liver oil. Egad, spinach was the dreaded vegetable of every little boy I knew. How about liver and onions, have you ever been ordered to eat that? Now, I like both spinach and liver and onions, amazing how that works.
I hated eating especially dinner, I just wanted to be outside playing with my friends.

 

[Lanny]

I challenge someone to find a civilization or people who’s history doesn’t include advancement through war, colonization, slavery or other forms of brutality. None of those things are good and they should probably go away, but the point stands that none of our ancestors’ hands are clean, regardless of whatever skin tones occupy your family tree this century.

Certainly, but there are both degrees of evil as well as people being just in going to war with evil.
What is evil? It's a good thing we have millennia of religion wrestling with that.
So, to sum it up there are clean hands and cleaner hands, there are dirty hands and dirtier hands. i.e. there are degrees of evil.