Sergio a Knick?

[Crimson the Cat]

You just gotta think of it like Currys contract will be coming off the books next year. So it would be another RLEC on our bench. But Curry could actually play (I think) if Greg or Joel got injured.

If it were coming off the books next year, NY wouldn't be trading him. He has a two-year player option, which I'm certain he'll pick up. I believe he's under contract for two more season.

 

[Minstrel]

Ultimately we'd use up our cap space though, as you pointed out, for the use of Curry and attaining the #8. I don't like it at all.

As I said, it depends where it goes. If the ultimate destination is the #8 pick, I'm unenthused. The #8 pick in what most see as a weak draft doesn't really seem likely to bring in a big-time player, present or future. But if it's a first move in a bigger deal, well then, who knows.

The idea of sign-and-trading Frye doesn't jive though. The article acts as if this is all a done deal, which means banking on Frye isn't likely.

It may be a done deal, and Frye may be part of it. None of it can be announced until draft day, so we don't know.

 

[RickyRubio]

If it were coming off the books next year, NY wouldn't be trading him. He has a two-year player option, which I'm certain he'll pick up. I believe he's under contract for two more season.

Oh snap! A 2 year player option?! That I did not know.

I would still do it!

 

[RR7]

Well, if it is to be announced on draft day, then we DO know that Frye is NOT a part of it.

 

[RickyRubio]

As I said, it depends where it goes. If the ultimate destination is the #8 pick, I'm unenthused. The #8 pick in what most see as a weak draft doesn't really seem likely to bring in a big-time player, present or future. But if it's a first move in a bigger deal, well then, who knows.

But what if it brings us that great backup player that we need?! We don't really need another star. But I am thinking it's part of another deal.

Maybe somehow Memphis is involved and Outlaw?

 

[Crimson the Cat]

As I said, it depends where it goes. If the ultimate destination is the #8 pick, I'm unenthused. The #8 pick in what most see as a weak draft doesn't really seem likely to bring in a big-time player, present or future. But if it's a first move in a bigger deal, well then, who knows.

Agreed. But again, this article implies the deal is a done deal. That doesn't make sense for Pritchard to take on such a deal not knowing what he can actually turn the #8 pick into. Sure, it could produce Ricky Rubio or Ramon Sessions, but there's also a very good chance it could only turn into Tyreke Evans. Too high of risk in this scenario. Too many uncertainties.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

It may be a done deal, and Frye may be part of it. None of it can be announced until draft day, so we don't know.

How could Frye be part of it? Nothing could be done with him until in July. As a RFA, nothing can be negotiated at this point, right?

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Well, if it is to be announced on draft day, then we DO know that Frye is NOT a part of it.

Exactly.

It could be Travis and Sergio for the #8 and Jeffries. This I would yesterday. I really like Jeffries for us.

 

[Minstrel]

How could Frye be part of it? Nothing could be done with him until in July. As a RFA, nothing can be negotiated at this point, right?

Is that the case with one's own free agents, too? If so, yeah, I guess he can't be, unless the deal is announced on July 1.

I thought the July 1 date was to negotiate with outside free agents. I thought teams can always talk to "their own" players.

 

[Iwatas]

Well then we can mark you down in the chronicles of basketball history as being right if it happens. The Chroniclers of basketball history know all, and quake at your prophecy of Sergio destruction!!!!

Mark me down, too!!!

iWatas

 

[Boob-No-More]

We could end up getting two Currys for the price of one Canary.

BNM

 

[Iwatas]

There would be a nice sort of symmetry there, as Rodriguez and Telfair are/were very similar sorts of players for Portland. Very young point guard prospects with exciting passing talent,

Nope.

Telfair was a lousy passer - he was the very model of a young point guard who could NOT create offense for others. No comparison in terms of assist rate.

Telfair turned out to be an NBA player, though a poor one. Sergio will be far better.

iWatas

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Exactly.

It could be Travis and Sergio for the #8 and Jeffries. This I would yesterday. I really like Jeffries for us.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=n8zbq6

 

[Crimson the Cat]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=n8zbq6

How many of you would do this?

Jeffries could prove quite useful defensively. His contract is much more palatable than Curry's.

 

[Minstrel]

Nope.

Telfair was a lousy passer - he was the very model of a young point guard who could NOT create offense for others. No comparison in terms of assist rate.

I don't agree. Both had great passing ability, but both had problems turning that into great distributing ability.

You are only looking at one side of the coin. While Rodriguez had superior Assist Rates, Telfair had superior (lower) Turnover Rates. So while Rodriguez was assisting on more of his teammates' baskets with his passing, he was also creating more turnovers. That does not a great distributor make.

I think Rodriguez is likely to be the same low-impact NBA player that Telfair has turned out to be.

 

[RR7]

How many of you would do this?

Jeffries could prove quite useful defensively. His contract is much more palatable than Curry's.

I'm assuming there's a pick swap in that as well, for us?

 

[andalusian]

We could end up getting two Currys for the price of one Canary.

If there was a way to distribute the weight of the ingridients between these curries properly - it would be great...

 

[SodaPopinski]

How many of you would do this?

Jeffries could prove quite useful defensively. His contract is much more palatable than Curry's.

Fuck no. This would be a steal for the Knicks. Jared Jeffries is garbage. I'm not a fan of Outlaw's, but dude is worth more than Jeffries.

-Pop

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I'm pretty sure the Knicks would look to unload Curry before Jeffries.

A little birdie told me two of the three players KP interviewed in Chicago were Stephen Curry and Johnny Flynn, FWIW.

Discover69 over at Club Blazers, the boardie with inside scoups, said KP is hot after Rubio.

 

[malarky]

Someone mentioned it previously but my guess would be: Sergio, Travis and #24 for #8 and Jeffries. The cap hit would be about 3 mil. That leaves us room to get another player but doesn't give us enough to get a someone above the MLE. The only reason a deal can't be announced now but could be announce on draft day is that one of the first round picks is involved. NY has already traded away next years first and you can't trade away your first pick in 2 straight drafts. Plus teams don't want to give away flexibility in the future if they can just wait a couple of weeks to announce it. If KP is going to give up a chunk of our cap space I would expect other deals to happen prior to the FA period to secure a player or to clear more cap space.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

I'm assuming there's a pick swap in that as well, for us?

Yep. #8

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Fuck no. This would be a steal for the Knicks. Jared Jeffries is garbage. I'm not a fan of Outlaw's, but dude is worth more than Jeffries.

-Pop

I didn't realize that the #8 wasn't put in there.

The deal would be Jeffries and the #8 for Outlaw and Sergio.

 

[RickyRubio]

How many of you would do this?

Jeffries could prove quite useful defensively. His contract is much more palatable than Curry's.

I would do it. I think, like with losing Z-Ro, we are better without Outlaw and Sergio. Travis is a decent player, but I don't think we need him. We have other players that can do what he does.

Sergio, do I really need to explain? The best part though is, that would free up more time for Bayless.

 

[SodaPopinski]

Jeffries is basically a Channing Frye clone, but two years older. Same size, same game. Deal would make no sense to me if it netted us Jared Jeffries. I've taken shits with more game than him.

-Pop

 

[Sug]

This could be an interesting move that might be a domino for another move. KP might not be a great deadline or summer guy, but he has proven that draft night is his home turf. I love the draft, and KP has only made it a more enjoyable experience.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

If Curry can get back into shape, which reports indicate he is doing, he's MUCH more valuable than Jeffries.

Jared is in the tier of bigmen that include Frye and Brian Cook, only worse.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

I'm pretty sure the Knicks would look to unload Curry before Jeffries.

I'm sort of beginning to warm to the idea of Curry if it mean we could guarantee getting Rubio.

A three-way deal with Memphis and New York?

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Jeffries is basically a Channing Frye clone, but two years older. Same size, same game. Deal would make no sense to me if it netted us Jared Jeffries. I've taken shits with more game than him.

-Pop

Dude the #8 would be included too though ... to us.

 

[SodaPopinski]

Can we please get a veteran with some game, please? I'm so tired of this moving up in the draft bullshit to get some unproven young talent so they can have an excuse next year when we lose in the first round. We don't need any more lottery talent.

Does anyone here honestly think that getting Stephen Curry is going to suddenly make this team a Western Conference Champion?

If this is our "big splash" this summer, I am instantly starting the "KP is a one-trick pony" platform. Draft day deals are fun, but I want to compete this year. Use our cap space and trade flexibility and improve this roster with proven NBA players that will help us win in the regular season AND the playoffs.

-Pop

 

[Minstrel]

I'm sort of beginning to warm to the idea of Curry if it mean we could guarantee getting Rubio.

A three-way deal with Memphis and New York?

If Portland were getting Rubio out of it, perhaps they'd gamble on trading Przybilla to Memphis (their biggest need is a legitimate big man) and make Curry the backup center?

Now, I'm not necessarily saying it's a great risk to take (and I'd really hope Pritchard attempts to land another serviceable center), but if it netted Rubio, it would cement a pretty remarkable core for the next decade plus: Roy/Oden/Aldridge/Rubio/Batum.