Sergio a Knick?

[Masbee]

Yeah... that's what I'm thinking. Portland basically punts Sergio, giving him away for a bit more cap space. Sergio's gonna make $1.5m next year, and while that's a pretty cheap player, that could help us in the free agent market.

Could it be part of a bigger deal? Sure. I'm keeping my expectations in check, though, and believe it'll be just a salary giveaway.

Ed O.

If it is a salary dump for the Blazers then why does the deal have to wait?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Before the season ended we heard that Eddy Curry planned on working hard this summer to get into shape. Last season Curry came into camp weighing more than he did during the regular season. However, this offseason Eddy Curry is suppose to be a new and improved player. Eddy is scheduled to be getting into NBA shape before the season starts

$10.5
$11.6

Two years left, a similar contract that Raef had when we took him off Boston's hands. But the big picture there was Roy, which obviously worked out. If we are to take on another bad contract KP must REALLY like a certain player in this draft.

 

[Tince]

Can we please get a veteran with some game, please? I'm so tired of this moving up in the draft bullshit to get some unproven young talent so they can have an excuse next year when we lose in the first round. We don't need any more lottery talent.

Does anyone here honestly think that getting Stephen Curry is going to suddenly make this team a Western Conference Champion?

If this is our "big splash" this summer, I am instantly starting the "KP is a one-trick pony" platform. Draft day deals are fun, but I want to compete this year. Use our cap space and trade flexibility and improve this roster with proven NBA players that will help us win in the regular season AND the playoffs.

-Pop

Yeah no kidding. Look at the garbage we've traded up for in the past three drafts:

Roy, Aldridge, Rudy, Batum, Bayless, and Sergio.

Our teams doesn't need players like that, they need older guys.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

If Portland were getting Rubio out of it, perhaps they'd gamble on trading Przybilla to Memphis (their biggest need is a legitimate big man) and make Curry the backup center?

Now, I'm not necessarily saying it's a great risk to take (and I'd really hope Pritchard attempts to land another serviceable center), but if it netted Rubio, it would cement a pretty remarkable core for the next decade plus: Roy/Oden/Aldridge/Rubio/Batum.

If you can get Rubio, you trade Prz. You just do. You figure out the rest later.

 

[SodaPopinski]

Yeah no kidding. Look at the garbage we've traded up for in the past three drafts:

Roy, Aldridge, Rudy, Batum, Bayless, and Sergio.

Our teams doesn't need players like that, they need older guys.

The team was different back then. We needed guys to build around. Core guys. We have those guys now. At this point, you need to add role players. Not alpha-male high lottery picks. Plus, we need to add some veteran leadership who has playoff experience, preferably deep playoff experience.

-Pop

 

[alex42083]

Can we please get a veteran with some game, please? I'm so tired of this moving up in the draft bullshit to get some unproven young talent so they can have an excuse next year when we lose in the first round. We don't need any more lottery talent.

Does anyone here honestly think that getting Stephen Curry is going to suddenly make this team a Western Conference Champion?

If this is our "big splash" this summer, I am instantly starting the "KP is a one-trick pony" platform. Draft day deals are fun, but I want to compete this year. Use our cap space and trade flexibility and improve this roster with proven NBA players that will help us win in the regular season AND the playoffs.

-Pop

You're crazy, man. KP is setting this team up for the John Wall sweepstakes in the 2010 Draft. We need more lottery picks! We're in some sort of contest to see how much we can move up in the draft every year to grab the next best talent.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

If it is a salary dump for the Blazers then why does the deal have to wait?

Oh snap!

I didn't think about that either. Either one of our draft picks or theirs are being used in this deal.

 

[Uther TheGardener]

it would be a nice mix of euro and american players which i believe is important in today's nba...but i still have my doubts as long as stern is in power...

 

[Crimson the Cat]

$10.5
$11.6

Two years left, a similar contract that Raef had when we took him off Boston's hands. But the big picture there was Roy, which obviously worked out. If we are to take on another bad contract KP must REALLY like a certain player in this draft.

Rubio would be worthy, much the same way Roy was. Go Pritchard go!

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Yeah no kidding. Look at the garbage we've traded up for in the past three drafts:

Roy, Aldridge, Rudy, Batum, Bayless, and Sergio.

Our teams doesn't need players like that, they need older guys.

Exactly!

Look. I want to see the Blazers win AS MANY championships as possible. I'm willing to put off winning next year or even the year after, if it means we have six of these seven Rubio, Roy*, Batum, Fernadez, Bayless, Aldridge, and Oden in their prime!

* one of the six

 

[RickyRubio]

Discover69 over at Club Blazers, the boardie with inside scoups, said KP is hot after Rubio.

Maybe KP forced\asked Rudy to say that public statement about how he thought Ricky was not ready for the NBA. To scare other teams from drafting him, so he could swoop up and get him himself!

 

[Sinobas]

If it were for future second rounders, that wouldn't have to wait for draft night and seems too small time for KP.

David Lee can't be traded on draft night.

IMO, all things point to being the #8 pick. Of course, I think more would be going to NY along with Sergio.

Nate, Lee and Duhon are the only players I could see us being remotely interested in. Lee and Nate can't be traded on draft night, and NY wouldn't trade their starting PG for Sergio. So it has to be 8, unless there's something I don't know about, like being able to trade, with all parties agreeing to a future sign and trade.

KP would probably package the 8, and the rest of our picks, to move up even higher. Could we potentially move high enough to get Rubio?

 

[Tince]

The team was different back then. We needed guys to build around. Core guys. We have those guys now. At this point, you need to add role players. Not alpha-male high lottery picks. Plus, we need to add some veteran leadership who has playoff experience, preferably deep playoff experience.

-Pop

You don't think guys like Batum and Rudy are role players?

 

[Uther TheGardener]

yeah thats what it looks like

now i wonder if any of the rumor sites or others are running with the story yet and if the league has been informed of the trade....

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

The Wizards are rumored to be picking for another team. If we can get this #8 without moving major pieces and then swing a deal with the Wizards I think the #5 and #8 is more than fair for the #2. Also factor in Rubio doesn't want to live in Tennessee.

Memphis could end up with Hill and Evans. That's not a bad draft day at all!

 

[RickyRubio]

Jeffries is basically a Channing Frye clone, but two years older. Same size, same game. Deal would make no sense to me if it netted us Jared Jeffries. I've taken shits with more game than him.

-Pop

Your missing the point of the trade.

 

[Sinobas]

Rudy may have been right about Rubio not being ready for the NBA. His stats in Euro league were Rodriguesque....nice assists per minute ratio, but poor offense.

On the bright side, it would give Bayless a year as the 2nd man, without having to worry about looking over his shoulder....at least not for a year or two. Then we could get a better idea of what he's made of.

Ha, I'm already talking like we got Rubio...but I really think that is who KP is after.

 

[RickyRubio]

The team was different back then. We needed guys to build around. Core guys. We have those guys now. At this point, you need to add role players. Not alpha-male high lottery picks. Plus, we need to add some veteran leadership who has playoff experience, preferably deep playoff experience.

-Pop

You really wouldn't want to trade Outlaw away and take on a bad contract to land Rubio? Really?

In KP we trust.

Drink water. Not Soda-Pop.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Rudy may have been right about Rubio not being ready for the NBA. His stats in Euro league were Rodriguesque....nice assists per minute ratio, but poor offense.

On the bright side, it would give Bayless a year as the 2nd man, without having to worry about looking over his shoulder....at least not for a year or two. Then we could get a better idea of what he's made of.

Ha, I'm already talking like we got Rubio...but I really think that is who KP is after.

I think you can factor in that Rubio is only 18 and playing significant minutes on one of the best teams in Europe. Defensively, you can't compare the two. Rubio has great instincts while Sergio has literally none on the defensive end.

 

[Minstrel]

The team was different back then. We needed guys to build around. Core guys. We have those guys now. At this point, you need to add role players. Not alpha-male high lottery picks. Plus, we need to add some veteran leadership who has playoff experience, preferably deep playoff experience.

IMO, the team should always be trying to upgrade the talent of the team, whether that comes in the form of young players or veteran players. Winning a championship is hard and there's no guarantee where players like Oden, Bayless, Batum, Rudy and even Aldridge are going to top out. One cannot just assume that the team is as talented as needed and now it's time to just add the "experienced veterans."

If there's an experienced veteran that makes sense, Pritchard should acquire him. I'm not against veteran additions. I simply don't agree that it's now time to ignore young talent.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Wheels is going to talk about the trade in about 15 minutes.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

So if for instance we moved Outlaw and Sergio to NY for Jeffries and #8, New York would effectively get out of Jared's two year contract and the #8's slotted salary. This will free up about $9M in cap space. It's not as nice as ridding yourselves of Curry, but it's very significant.

We could then move #8 and Rudy Fernandez to Memphis for Rubio and Hamed Haddadi (or Aurthur).

We'd still have our cap space, #24, our traded player exception, and our second rounders.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Maybe our #24 is also included. The Knicks are trying to secure a late first round pick to draft Jack McClinton, apparently.

 

[Wheels]

Can we please get a veteran with some game, please? I'm so tired of this moving up in the draft bullshit to get some unproven young talent so they can have an excuse next year when we lose in the first round. We don't need any more lottery talent.

Does anyone here honestly think that getting Stephen Curry is going to suddenly make this team a Western Conference Champion?

If this is our "big splash" this summer, I am instantly starting the "KP is a one-trick pony" platform. Draft day deals are fun, but I want to compete this year. Use our cap space and trade flexibility and improve this roster with proven NBA players that will help us win in the regular season AND the playoffs.

-Pop

one thing you arent thinking about with the clamoring for the experienced vet.. now we ARE a year older.. our guys have experienced the playoffs.. so I dont see another letdown like game 1 this year. Not saying that all our guys are experienced in deep playoff runs.. but now they know what its liek on the front lines. I know its hard to be patient with this pop.. it is for me too. But we could also have the chance to contend for many years with a guy to groom.. as opposed to just contend with an older vet for 2 years. And even then our window might just be getting wide open by then.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

Wheels is going to talk about the trade in about 15 minutes.

If anyone can update us with what's being said I would greatly appreciate it!

 

[Crimson the Cat]

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Maybe our #24 is also included. The Knicks are trying to secure a late first round pick to draft Jack McClinton, apparently.

Or one of our 2nds?

I could see McClinton slipping into the 2nd round.

I'd really like to keep our 24 if at all possible. I gots plans for that!

 

[alex42083]

This better be good Wheels, and not just a recap of what we already know..

 

[Wheels]

This better be good Wheels, and not just a recap of what we already know..

lol and if not.. and people are coming with pitchforks.. this is NOT the real Brian Wheeler.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

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Or one of our 2nds?

I could see McClinton slipping into the 2nd round.

I'd really like to keep our 24 if at all possible. I gots plans for that!

I would like to keep it, too. I like Casspi at #24.

 

[J_Ray]

This might be me, but does anyone else see Sergio & #24 for Duhon? It would clear some more cap to resign Nate Robinson, get them another cheap pick, and a serviceable PG. Duhon started off the year great but D'Antoni fell head over heels for Nate Robinson, and he could be looking for a pass first guy like Sergio rather than Duhon while cutting cap. I just don't see the Blazers getting the #8 pick w/o throwing in something that will intrigue D'Antoni like Outlaw or Batum. Because #24 & a bunch of 2nd rounders isn't worth a lotto pick any year.