Politics Serious Question

[riverman]

whats laughable is you thinking the statement screwing someone over isnt an opinion, based on emotions when there is no court verdict on said topic.
What one person sees as being screwed another may see as simply taking advantage of current legalities.

No one said that greed is a good thing but if he is guilty of greed, so are 90 percent of politicians and 75 % of Americans.

Fact is Trump used power in an attempt to discredit a fair election and used campaign funds to enrich his own pockets. He also promoted racism and cheered for conservative violence. I worked in the military during Nixon’s time and trump is way more corrupt than Nixon. It’s not emotions. It’s simple observations that leads to disgust with the guy. There’s no walking back Trump support at this point. He tried to replace democracy with authoritarian govt

 

[riverman]

MAGA is the war cry for defending and empowering white privilege

 

[riverman]

whats laughable is you thinking the statement screwing someone over isnt an opinion, based on emotions when there is no court verdict on said topic.
What one person sees as being screwed another may see as simply taking advantage of current legalities.

No one said that greed is a good thing but if he is guilty of greed, so are 90 percent of politicians and 75 % of Americans.

yesterday two men were declared innocent finally after being imprisoned for the death of Malcom X......if you think the courts are infallible....think again...corrupt politicians buy judges...policemen..etc often....difference here is not since J Edgar Hoover has the DOJ been weaponized by the presidency...what is different with Trump's crew is that they don't want a democracy nor feel the need to follow the constitution or Hatch act...etc....peaceful transfer of power....relationships with our allies..handling of a pandemic...I know for a fact there's enough bad blood around Trump's camp that they cannot be trusted ...Trump wants to be Putin and Kim Jong Un....they just eliminate the competition..he tried to do that when he lost the election...you don't want to die on the Trump hill OB....he's demonstrably shown he's a corrupt egomaniac and liar. And I've lived 68 years without thinking once that 75% of Americans are fueled by greed...I don't believe that at all....I'd say 75% are trying to put food on the table and pay rent or a mortgage. Get their kids teeth fixed.....noow 1% of America is abolutely fueled by greed

 

[jonnyboy]

Hilarious that people are still over-analyzing a corny slogan from a previous administration that probably took less than five minutes to come up with and had absolutely zero deep thought or intention behind it.

 

[riverman]

Hilarious that people are still over-analyzing a corny slogan from a previous administration that probably took less than five minutes to come up with and had absolutely zero deep thought or intention behind it.

I'm sure some said the same about Heil Hitler....what a silly slogan that took less than 5 minutes to come up with....that corny slogan carried AR 15s around and confederate flags...yeah..harmless eh?
See Jan 6th and tell me how the red maga hat was any different than any uniform that people rally behind with bullying tactics....

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Hilarious that people are still over-analyzing a corny slogan from a previous administration that probably took less than five minutes to come up with and had absolutely zero deep thought or intention behind it.

So you’re saying you’ve ignored the news on both sides of the fence these past 6 or so years??? You’ve ignored countless Trump rallies full of people wearing MAGA apparel and waving MAGA flags??? You’ve ignored Trump saying (every chance he has had) MAGA, MAGA, MAGA??? You ignored the insurrection on January 6th??? Now who’s reaching?? You claim to want honesty in political discourse and then you make an utterly inane statement like the one above???? You used to have a fair amount of credibility (at least with me) but you just went over the way over the top. If you really and truly believe what you just wrote, then you either aren’t paying attention or you have become numb to it living where you do. I have absolutely NO doubt that a great deal of thought and discussion went into that classic dog whistle……..

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

For over five years now we have heard the slogan “Make America Great Again”. Yet not since the Civil War has this country been so divided and at each other’s throats. So……….serious question: When was the “Great America” the Right is trying to get back to, and what exactly made it so “great”? What exactly is it that is keeping us from being “great” again? Seems like the only people pushing the “great America” myth are those with white skin. I genuinely want to know what the “greatness” involved and what “happened” to it.

Before the pussification of America. With 50 genders and everyone having their safe space and being offended by everything. Before victim culture. And so forth and so on.

Basically before Americans became little bitches.

 

[riverman]

Before the pussification of America. With 50 genders and everyone having their safe space and being offended by everything

There's been only one "safe space" in S2 and it was a pro Trump thread.....I think it was either you, mags or ABM who wanted a segregated thread for lib heckling? Reality TV is the cause of the pussification of America....so much so that they elected the biggest pussy of them all...

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Before the pussification of America. With 50 genders and everyone having their safe space and being offended by everything

Ya know, what’s really interesting is that no one yet (other than @Chris Craig) has made a serious attempt to offer an opinion of when America was actually “great” or why it is no longer “great”, or what is keeping us from being “great” again, which is why I started this thread. Your broad generalization is a start but doesn’t even make a dent in the questions.

 

[Buffalo Custard]

MAGA is the war cry for defending and empowering white privilege

Trump is the bloated tick burrowed into the ass of the neo-fascist movement that seeks to destroy everything good about this country.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

There's been only one "safe space" in S2 and it was a pro Trump thread.....I think it was either you, mags or ABM who wanted a segregated thread for lib heckling? Reality TV is the cause of the pussification of America....so much so that they elected the biggest pussy of them all...

That was requested as such as satire.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Ya know, what’s really interesting is that no one yet (other than @Chris Craig) has made a serious attempt to offer an opinion of when America was actually “great” or why it is no longer “great”, or what is keeping us from being “great” again, which is why I started this thread. Your broad generalization is a start but doesn’t even make a dent in the questions.

On my phone all day. I'll try to go more in depth later

 

[Buffalo Custard]

That was requested as such as satire.

Talk about pussification! Say something offensive with no redeeming social content and then cower behind "it was a joke!" Own your shit fascist weasel. (no, no - I'm just kidding!)

 

[jonnyboy]

This OT forum has become MSNBC. It’s like Infowars for social justice warriors. Lots of conspiracy theories and angry misguided rants.

 

[riverman]

This OT forum has become MSNBC. It’s like Infowars for social justice warriors. Lots of conspiracy theories and angry misguided rants.

you can stop posting those anytime you like....choices...as to anger....don't confuse it with disdain or disgust...when it comes to the orange asshole....that's where I stand...it's not a conspiracy to watch policemen killed with fire extinguishers on Capitol Hill but I'm sure getting a vaccination in your view has conspiracy written all over it.....you should donate to Sidney Powell's defense fund...she needs your help against social justice! Give Steve Bannon some of your money...he's your guy! Fuck Trump and his cronies and I say that with a smile on my face..he's just a piece of shit. There are other assholes sure, but he tried to destroy democracy and wipe his ass with the constitution ...

 

[jonnyboy]

^anger

 

[calvin natt]

Before the pussification of America. With 50 genders and everyone having their safe space and being offended by everything. Before victim culture. And so forth and so on.

Basically before Americans became little bitches.

Nothing says pussy or bitch like fake tough guys wearing bullet proof vests at school board meetings and town halls. And of course Trump and his achy bone spurs.

 

[Chris Craig]

Ya know, what’s really interesting is that no one yet (other than @Chris Craig) has made a serious attempt to offer an opinion of when America was actually “great” or why it is no longer “great”, or what is keeping us from being “great” again, which is why I started this thread. Your broad generalization is a start but doesn’t even make a dent in the questions.

@crandc did

 

[riverman]

^anger

you have no clue kid.....I'm on top of the world...great life, great day to day....anger is not an argument...common sense dictates how disgusted I am with Trump...my question is why aren't you? Your anger seems to be obsessive confrontations on a sports site about whataboutism and how libs are dumb......good luck with that....try enjoying basketball once in awhile.....it'll calm your anger down and you won't project it on others as much

 

[Chris Craig]

Before the pussification of America. With 50 genders and everyone having their safe space and being offended by everything. Before victim culture. And so forth and so on.

Basically before Americans became little bitches.

Says the guy who goes on lavish vacations, takes pictures in his bathrobe, and gets Mani Pedis.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Says the guy who goes on lavish vacations, takes pictures in his bathrobe, and gets Mani Pedis.

I clip my own nails bro

 

[riverman]

I clip my own nails every two years bro

fixed...

 

[jonnyboy]

Your anger seems to be obsessive confrontations on a sports site about whataboutism and how libs are dumb......good luck with that....try enjoying basketball once in awhile.....it'll calm your anger down and you won't project it on others as much

You just accurately described most people on here including yourself, but you are only willing to give a pass to those who you agree with politically. If you disagree with something I say then fine, don’t single me out as some main contributor to a problem that is very clearly forum-wide. Me having different opinions than most on here doesn’t make me ‘more wrong’ for doing the same shit everyone else does.

 

[MARIS61]

Yes

2016 - 62,984,828

2020 - 74,222,958


But, a hell of a lot more democrats voted who did not in the first election. Thus his loss

Hillary 2016 - 65,853,514

Biden 2020 - 81,283,098

Yes, about 20 million deceased, non-citizen and fictional voters turned the tide for the Deep State's Puppet.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I’m an edgelord, I own a katana that I can’t wield but thinks it makes me cool and tough, my hands are smooth and soft that any girlie-girl would be jealous of, and I approve of this message.

I'm sorry for whatever you are going through bro.

 

[Lanny]

Before the pussification of America. With 50 genders and everyone having their safe space and being offended by everything. Before victim culture. And so forth and so on.

Basically before Americans became little bitches.

How would you like it if someone called you a little bitch? I'll bet those would be fighting words in a bar. I sure as shit wouldn't like it, not one teeny bit.

 

[Orion Bailey]

How would you like it if someone called you a little bitch? I'll bet those would be fighting words in a bar. I sure as shit wouldn't like it, not one teeny bit.

No more than being called a racist supporter, mysoginist, or many other things ive personally been called here by some…
Ive been made fun of and told to fuck off for just trying to have a conversation…

go call them out first please….

And this is exactly what Johnny is talking aBout.
You aRe calling el prez out for calling some little bitches. But NO ONE on the left says anything to others on the left when they portray the same condescending labelling…

Don't rail on the right for what the left also does….


S2 is spinnoff of msnbc which is no better than fox news…

With that said Lanny i HAVE seen you call others out, but you are the only one. None of your politically aligned brethren do.

There is sooo much anger in this place….

 

[Lanny]

No more than being called a racist supporter, mysoginist, or many other things ive personally been called here by some…
Ive been made fun of and told to fuck off for just trying to have a conversation…

go call them out first please….

And this is exactly what Johnny is talking aBout.
You aRe calling el prez out for calling some little bitches. But NO ONE on the left says anything to others on the left when they portray the same condescending labelling…

Don't rail on the right for what the left also does….


S2 is spinnoff of msnbc which is no better than fox news…

With that said Lanny i HAVE seen you call others out, but you are the only one. None of your politically aligned brethren do.

There is sooo much anger in this place….

I'll call them out when I see it. Gotta see it first.
And where did you get the idea I was, and let's say complaining rather than railing, against the Right? I didn't know I was and didn't intend it that way although I could.

 

[barfo]

No more than being called a racist supporter, mysoginist, or many other things ive personally been called here by some…
Ive been made fun of and told to fuck off for just trying to have a conversation…

go call them out first please….

And this is exactly what Johnny is talking aBout.
You aRe calling el prez out for calling some little bitches. But NO ONE on the left says anything to others on the left when they portray the same condescending labelling…

Don't rail on the right for what the left also does….


S2 is spinnoff of msnbc which is no better than fox news…

With that said Lanny i HAVE seen you call others out, but you are the only one. None of your politically aligned brethren do.

There is sooo much anger in this place….

I think you are really reaching to create an argument here. El Prez said Americans were little bitches, not left wingers or any other subgroup. And he was obviously not too serious anyway. I really doubt a single poster here was offended.

There might be a lot of anger in this place, but I don't think it is El Prez or Lanny that have it.

barfo

 

[Orion Bailey]

I think you are really reaching to create an argument here. El Prez said Americans were little bitches, not left wingers or any other subgroup. And he was obviously not too serious anyway. I really doubt a single poster here was offended.

There might be a lot of anger in this place, but I don't think it is El Prez or Lanny that have it.

barfo

i never intended or meant that el prez or Lanny are hateful. Probably some of the least hateful based off their posts.