Sessions - 3 teams close to an offer

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SpanishFly said:
unfortunately I tend to agree
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KP has an extremely huge Ego. Picking bayless 11th and giving up on him for someone that was had in the second round would concede deafeat...

Just dont see it happening.... :sigh:
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
KP has an extremely huge Ego. Picking bayless 11th and giving up on him for someone that was had in the second round would concede deafeat...

Just dont see it happening.... :sigh:
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Oh Please... He went after Millsap even though he draft Joel Freeland/Sergio Rodriguez in 06 before Millsap...
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
KP has an extremely huge Ego. Picking bayless 11th and giving up on him for someone that was had in the second round would concede deafeat...

Just dont see it happening.... :sigh:
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I must have missed the memo that KP has a huge ego. Where is all this coming from? An unknown East coast executive? A radio personality, or from someone on this board?

In any event if KP has this so called huge ego like you suggest then he will be able to justify in his mind that he was brilliant in picking up Sessions and trading Bayless for some other talent. I would not worry about his ego.
 
Sounds like something put out by Session's agent. If a team really wanted him, they would extend an offer before the other two extend an offer. I guess the market isn't quite so hot for average point guards who can't shoot the 3? :dunno:
 
This is ridiculous, both these teams can only offer the MLE, correct? The Blazers can offer significantly more than both these teams. I don't think there's any excuse for not offering this guy a contract.
 
AmirIcon said:
This is ridiculous, both these teams can only offer the MLE, correct? The Blazers can offer significantly more than both these teams. I don't think there's any excuse for not offering this guy a contract.
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The NBA seems to disagree with you at this point, as well as Sessions' own team.
 
PapaG said:
Sounds like something put out by Session's agent. If a team really wanted him, they would extend an offer before the other two extend an offer. I guess the market isn't quite so hot for average point guards who can't shoot the 3? :dunno:
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What does that have to do with Sessions? I don't think there's much evidence that he's "average".

Ed O.
 
PapaG said:
The NBA seems to disagree with you at this point, as well as Sessions' own team.
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Why should the Bucks offer him a contract when they don't have to?

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
What does that have to do with Sessions? I don't think there's much evidence that he's "average".

Ed O.
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What does it have to do with Sessions? His agent is the one saying 3 teams are getting close to making offers, yet nobody has made an offer. Obviously his agent is trying to add some urgency to get his player an offer...any offer.

As far as my view on him as being average, well, teams aren't exactly tripping over themselves trying to sign the 23 year-old to a contract. Why is that, if he's such a hot commodity?
 
Despite all the evidence to the contrary (wanting a point guard that can shoot, the front office having faith in Bayless, etc.) I'm still hoping for us to make an offer to Sessions. Much like Miller, I think he'd be a good addition to our team.
 
PapaG said:
Sounds like something put out by Session's agent. If a team really wanted him, they would extend an offer before the other two extend an offer.
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It's not which offer he receives first, it is which offer he signs that matters. There is arguably strategic value in waiting until the other guy has made a commitment before making yours (see, e.g. Hedo Turkoglu).

barfo
 
Ed O said:
Why should the Bucks offer him a contract when they don't have to?

Ed O.
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To lower the risk of paying a lot of money to keep him. Lock him up for around the MLE and take Portland out of the mix. Basic stuff if he's that important to your team.
 
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barfo said:
It's not which offer he receives first, it is which offer he signs that matters. There is arguably strategic value in waiting until the other guy has made a commitment before making yours (see, e.g. Hedo Turkoglu).

barfo
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He has yet to even receive an offer, and Milwaukee can match any offer. What that has to do with Hedo, I'm not sure, since Hedo was an UFA and Sessions is a RFA.
 
I REALLY hope Portland gets some sense and makes a big offer.
 
PapaG said:
He has yet to even receive an offer, and Milwaukee can match any offer. What that has to do with Hedo, I'm not sure, since Hedo was an UFA and Sessions is a RFA.
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Well, Milwaukee is obviously going to put their offer (aka match) in last. That's really the only difference between a UFA and an RFA. It is an important difference, but it isn't important for this discussion of whether it is better for a non-Milwaukee team to be the first to submit their offer.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Well, Milwaukee is obviously going to put their offer (aka match) in last. That's really the only difference between a UFA and an RFA. It is an important difference, but it isn't important for this discussion of whether it is better for a non-Milwaukee team to be the first to submit their offer.

barfo
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It is though, at least if you have 3 suitors. Sessions's agent is obviously trying to drive up bids on a market that has yet to exist. :cheers:
 
PapaG said:
It is though, at least if you have 3 suitors.
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How so?

Sessions's agent is obviously trying to drive up bids on a market that has yet to exist. :cheers:
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I understand why you make that assumption, but it is an assumption.

barfo
 
barfo said:
I understand why you make that assumption, but it is an assumption.

barfo
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Of course it is an assumption. 99% of what is discussed on this board is based on opinion/assumption. I don't think Sessions is a good fit. Others disagree. The lack of any offer for him at least makes me feel I'm not completely out of the realm of reality. Portland decided that offering a back-up PF $8 million/per was more important that offering Sessions a similar amount of money.

I just don't think continuing to go down a list to the next available FA is a good way to go about building a title contender. If the front office thought Sessions was a key, I imagine they would have offered him a Hedo- or Millsap-like deal that Milwaukee would never seriously consider matching.
 
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PapaG said:
The NBA seems to disagree with you at this point, as well as Sessions' own team.
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At this point is irrelevant unless you actually think no NBA team is going to have him on their team next year. Is it fair to say that Brandon Roy's team is not very interested in him because they haven't resigned him? How about LaMarcus Aldridge? It's the perfect strategy for the Bucks as the teams with cap space are dwindling. If Ramon signs an offer sheet by the Knicks or the Clipps, it'll be for MLE money which would be easily matched on the Bucks end. Don't forget that you're guy, Kirk Hinrich has a PER significantly less than Ramon Sessions and is significantly older.
 
AmirIcon said:
If Ramon signs an offer sheet by the Knicks or the Clipps, it'll be for MLE money which would be easily matched on the Bucks end. Don't forget that you're guy, Kirk Hinrich has a PER significantly less than Ramon Sessions and is significantly older.
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Well, the Bucks would be offering about MLE money anyways, so they might as well try to sign an extension instead of waiting for another team to offer him more than the MLE/5 years.

Kirk Hinrich's draw is that he plays great defense, so PER might not be the best measuring tool for him. Sessions is not particularly great at defense.
 
B-Roy said:
Well, the Bucks would be offering about MLE money anyways, so they might as well try to sign an extension instead of waiting for another team to offer him more than the MLE/5 years.
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Portland and OKC are the only teams that can offer him more than the MLE. OKC already have Westbrook and Harden, so they don't need him, and it doesn't seem like Portland is interested. Worst case scenario for the Bucks is that another team offers him the full MLE. If another team offers him less than that, the Bucks can match and keep him for a lower price. It's definitely in their best interests to wait for the market to set his price.
 
number 10 said:
Portland and OKC are the only teams that can offer him more than the MLE. OKC already have Westbrook and Harden, so they don't need him, and it doesn't seem like Portland is interested. Worst case scenario for the Bucks is that another team offers him the full MLE. If another team offers him less than that, the Bucks can match and keep him for a lower price. It's definitely in their best interests to wait for the market to set his price.
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Or if nothing happens, Sessions could just sign the QO and become an UFA next season. There are definitely advantages if Milwaukee locks up Sessions first.
 
PapaG said:
What does it have to do with Sessions? His agent is the one saying 3 teams are getting close to making offers, yet nobody has made an offer. Obviously his agent is trying to add some urgency to get his player an offer...any offer.

As far as my view on him as being average, well, teams aren't exactly tripping over themselves trying to sign the 23 year-old to a contract. Why is that, if he's such a hot commodity?
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Dude.. he's the next Magic Johnson and CP3. Lay off the guy.
 
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