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no, it would stil be a scandal if the mayor was not gay. As I stated, it would probably be worse, in fact.
 
Denny Crane said:
Oddly, the story doesn't mention his political party. The press protects it's own, right?

http://clarkcountypolitics.blogspot.com/2009/01/so-newly-elected-democrat-portland.html

So, newly-elected DEMOCRAT Portland Mayor Sam Adams had a sexual relationship with a teenager.

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So, Sam Adams had a sexual relationship with a teenager.

That probably won’t make any difference to the idiots that voted for him. After all, as he takes his rightful place as the chief hedonist of Sodom-on-the-Willamette, that sort of thing is just par for his particular course.

Adams is a coward, both politically and morally. He’s not, finally, admitting to his perversion because it’s the right thing to do; no, that’s simply not possible. Instead, he’s fessin’ up because the Willamette Weekly has nailed him.

Had Mr. Adams been possessed of character, he would have told the truth before the election. But like most democrats striving to reach the bar lowered by Bill Clinton, that must depend on what your definition of “is,” is.

Mr. Adams must resign. Lying by omission, even if not technically illegal, provides him with no excuse.

He is not scum because he’s a promiscuous homosexual; that truly IS his business. What makes him scum is that he’s so PROUD of the fact that he nails other men, apparently even those just barely legal. And that, dear reader, is the kind of conduct that would INSTANTLY destroy a heterosexual politician, or even a politician with bisexual leanings… like Republican Congressman Mark Foley… and his democrat replacement who would, apparently, have sex with about anything that moved.

There will be few calls for his resignation. The double-standard is firmly in place, and homosexual politicians could, effectively, molest a Boy Scout troop and the MSM wouldn’t bat an eyelash… because, for their side, it’s ALWAYS “different.”

Adams should go, and do it right now. But he’s already proven he lacks the guts to dfo the right thing in the past… why would anyone believe he’d suddenly transform into a moral individual with something approaching character now?

And, in this article, note once again the absence from either the Columbian OR the Associated Press any mention of Adams' party affiliation... and ponder, again, if you will, the fact that had Adams been a Republican, that affiliation would have been in every other word in the article.
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The Mayor doesn't run as a party candidate, nor do commissioners or city council members.

Sam shoulda just told his most recent story before the election, because he would have won the election anyway, and this would be old news.
 
Denny Crane said:
Compare this, say, to the Mark Foley scandal.
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yeah lets.

foley, who made it his work to rid the nation of child predators, only to be caught doing exactly that.

adams, an openly gay mayor, whom until otherwise proven, had sex with an adult.

good point, thanks.
 
Denny Crane said:
Compare this, say, to Mark Foley.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley

My understanding was that Foley was sexually harassing male interns who were not interested in him (or even gay) and that this had been going on for years. He was not openly gay himself and portrayed himself as a hetero family man... hell, you do know about some of the laws he championed right? Dude was very hypocritical.

I'm not saying that Adams is innocent of breaking the law which may end up rightfully costing him his career and then some, but I don't see the direct parallels that you're implying let alone the laughable paranoia that the local press is protecting one of their own. I expect to see this on the front page of the O for weeks because it's going to sell a lot of papers to the curious.

STOMP
 
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A homosexual mayor who diddles with teenage boys? What's the big deal? Politics as usual in loony Portland.
 
The Multnomah County D.A. office just announced they are opening an investigation to see whether Adams had sex with the teenager while Breedlove was a minor.

Is the mayor of Portland a pederast? :confused:
 
julius said:
He's 18, right? So who cares.

This just smells like people coming up with any reason to rail on a homosexual.
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Some of you really need to read the story. It goes beyond having sex with an 18 year old, who was underage when they met, while being a 42 year old politician. It's even worse because they magically waited a few days after he turned 18 to do the deed, yeah right. This and that all goes to the back seat when he abused his power to keep people involved quiet. Tarnished the political career of another person because he made other people into liars when, in turn, he is the liar. There is also the matter of him getting the kid a job (with no experience), and hiring the reporter from the Mercury that originally was reporting on this story.

The real problem is he violated and abused public trust. This would be a non issue if he just said "yes i tapped that" when it came up a few months ago.
 
ironcrotch said:
Tarnished the political career of another person because he made other people into liars when, in turn, he is the liar.
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I'm not sure that's the whole story. Robert Ball was going around telling this story with the apparent intention of hurting Adams chances of getting elected (and thus helping himself get elected). He's not exactly an innocent bystander, as I understand it.

barfo
 
I think ADP brings up a good point, could you imagine if this was some male politican (in their late 30s) who waited on a a 17 year old girl to become 18 and then has sex with her.

Some call that being responsible . . . I call it grooming. If that was my son or daughter, I would pissed.

As far as having sex with an 18 year old and lying . . . it happens. The timing on this is obviously thought out. After the election but soon enough wehre it shouldn't be a factor in the next election. Well played Sam . . .
 
barfo said:
I'm not sure that's the whole story. Robert Ball was going around telling this story with the apparent intention of hurting Adams chances of getting elected (and thus helping himself get elected). He's not exactly an innocent bystander, as I understand it.

barfo
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So what? Adams then destroyed Ball with what now are known to be lies.

I personally don't care, but I do want Adams impeached because his idea of "big thinking" on professional sports seems to be bringing in MLS at PGE Park, and then building a new AAA stadium in SouthfreakingEast. Whoopee!
 
it's_GO_time said:
I think ADP brings up a good point, could you imagine if this was some male politican (in their late 30s) who waited on a a 17 year old girl to become 18 and then has sex with her.

Some call that being responsible . . . I call it grooming. If that was my son or daughter, I would pissed.

As far as having sex with an 18 year old and lying . . . it happens. The timing on this is obviously thought out. After the election but soon enough wehre it shouldn't be a factor in the next election. Well played Sam . . .
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He would be a predator in that situation if it was a male doing that to a 17 year old female.
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
He would be a predator in that situation if it was a male doing that to a 17 year old female.
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I agree that is how it would be portrayed in the media. I wonder why it isn't portrayed like that now?

I think it is a male thing . . . an young male having sex with an elder person doesn't say victim all over it the way a young female having sex with an elder person does. Sad, but I think that is what is going on here.
 
it's_GO_time said:
I agree that is how it would be portrayed in the media. I wonder why it isn't portrayed like that now?

I think it is a male thing . . . an young male having sex with an elder person doesn't say victim all over it the way a young female having sex with an elder person does. Sad, but I think that is what is going on here.
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I think its a gay thing. The catholic priests who molest boys are predatory.

The media is so enamored with Adams being an openly homosexual mayor that portraying him as a predator would be thought of as homophobic behavior. So they "tolerate" it and don't treat it as if he were straight.
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
I think its a gay thing. The catholic priests who molest boys are predatory.

The media is so enamored with Adams being an openly homosexual mayor that portraying him as a predator would be thought of as homophobic behavior. So they "tolerate" it and don't treat it as if he were straight.
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I don't know if I agree with all this . . . but you raise an interesting point.
 
Adams needs to resign immediately. I personally have trouble believing that he somehow waited until this kids 18th birthday before having sex with him. He openly admits to dating the kid while he was still 17. That is just WRONG!
 
tlongII said:
Adams needs to resign immediately. I personally have trouble believing that he somehow waited until this kids 18th birthday before having sex with him. He openly admits to dating the kid while he was still 17. That is just WRONG!
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probably got at least a hand job from him. come on.

:ghoti:
 
tlongII said:
Adams needs to resign immediately. I personally have trouble believing that he somehow waited until this kids 18th birthday before having sex with him. He openly admits to dating the kid while he was still 17. That is just WRONG!
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The more I think about this, the more it bothers me (and I like Sam).

But whether he was courting this boy (or as I say, grooming) or whether he had sex with him . . . one is illegal and the other is immoral for a public figure to do (we are talking an intern here right).

It is wrong on a couple of levels and the fact that he discloses it after the election . . . well Sam the passionate might actually be Sam the devious.
 
Blast from the past:

http://www.blueoregon.com/2007/09/bob-ball-faces-.html

http://www.blueoregon.com/2007/09/sam-adams-targe.html ("smear campaign")
Leonard and Katz, however, saw the allegation for what it was; a political smear campaign against a possible rival candidate:

Those he told, including Leonard and former Mayor Vera Katz, said they took it as an attempt at political assassination.

In the fallout, Leonard went so far as to tell Ball to give up any hopes of seeking political office: "As long as I've been doing this stuff, and keep in mind that I started in union politics, I've never felt so dirty. I've told Bob, 'You're not running for mayor. You're not running for City Council. You're done.' "

"It's just a despicable thing to put out there about someone, particularly about a gay man," Leonard said. "It's the worst kind of political smear."
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http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/2007/09/bob_ballprobably_toast.php

more:

Interesting of Sam Adam's quotes:
"The ironic part of this is that even Big Brothers and Big Sisters frequently pairs Queer adults with Queer youth," says Adams. "Not that a straight Big Brother wouldn't be great for a Queer youth, or vice versa, but they have a shared experience. I hope this doesn't have a chilling effect on the mentoring that should go on between Queer youth and adults."

"I'm hoping that this gives me an opportunity to talk about the bigger issues here," he added. "Like the fact that it's apparently still not okay to be gay in certain situations. It's as if, because I'm gay, I can't have any meaningful interaction with males under the age of 18."
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Stick.

Fork.

Done.
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/2007/09/bob_ballprobably_toast.php

more:

Interesting of Sam Adam's quotes:


Stick.

Fork.

Done.
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Ugh . . . sounds like Adams is trying to twist this all around and using the fact he is gay as sympathy for his sitatuion.

Sam we don't care if you interact with boys and girls . . . we care if they are an intern, you date them while they are a child, have sex with then when they turn 18 and lie about it. Let's stick to the issues.
 
PapaG said:
So what? Adams then destroyed Ball with what now are known to be lies.
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Which is what Ball deserved for having thought publicizing someone else's sex life was a good way to get elected.

barfo
 
ironcrotch said:
Some of you really need to read the story. It goes beyond having sex with an 18 year old, who was underage when they met, while being a 42 year old politician. It's even worse because they magically waited a few days after he turned 18 to do the deed, yeah right. This and that all goes to the back seat when he abused his power to keep people involved quiet. Tarnished the political career of another person because he made other people into liars when, in turn, he is the liar. There is also the matter of him getting the kid a job (with no experience), and hiring the reporter from the Mercury that originally was reporting on this story.

The real problem is he violated and abused public trust. This would be a non issue if he just said "yes i tapped that" when it came up a few months ago.
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Yah, he kept it quiet about a personal relationship he had with another adult.

The bastard.
 
julius said:
Yah, he kept it quiet about a personal relationship he had with another adult.

The bastard.
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He gave a job to both a reporter who knew the details and also to the "intern"/lover, which could be construed as a conflict of interest.

The lengths people will go to explain away the faults of polticians on "their team" never ceases to amaze me.
 
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