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BankTeller said:
Exceeding even my wildest expectations as well, although only through five games.

This was Kobe’s year 3, but here was his age 20 statline: 19.9/5.3/3.8 on .465/.267/.839

Edwards year 2: 21.3/4.8/3.8 on .441/.357/.786
SGA year 2: 19.0/5.9/3.3 on .471/.347/.807
Jordan year 2: 22.7/3.6/2.9 on .457/.167/.840

His development is only exponential at this point, not linear. Is it at the point now that we speak it into existence and optimistically expect him to have a stat line around Jordan’s year 3? Maybe this time next year through five games, we’ll be having this same convo while he averages 38ppg lol.
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The comment about Sharpe getting to the free-throw line was spot on. Sharpe showed that ability to take contact from the very beginning. If he's a star 20+ ppg scorer, he's going to make a lot of contact and get a lot of whistles. That's the next step for Sharpe on offense. Screw over the other team to the extent that when you're playing on the road a fan gets ejected and the crowd is doing the Refs You Suck chant.
 
MickZagger said:
The game just comes effortless to him. Even when he’s doing things athletically that 90% of the NBA can’t do, he does it nonchalantly.

I remember saying he had a superstar talent right off the bat in his rookie year. My concern has always been whether he had the hunger for greatness. Now I’m starting to think that is just how he is and doesn’t wear his competitiveness on his sleeve.
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There are times where I want to see him be a little "tougher", for lack of a better word. He's laid back and a soft spoken kid. I have noticed a couple times in the last couple games where there was a loose ball and he didn't go after it like he should have. Today in the Pistons game there was a rebound that got knocked around near him. He grabbed the ball and had it knocked away from him really easily. As he went to retrieve the ball, he had it knocked away again by a guy who barely reached the ball and Shaedon almost looked surprised. If he had just gone after the ball more aggressively, he would have either been fouled or out in the open court leading a fast break.
What I really want to see is Shaedon getting roughed up or out hustled enough that it pisses him off. Laid back is great. Not showing emotions is okay. But, occasionally I want to see him get pissed off and really exert himself. Say, Pat Bev gets the best of him in an important spot in the game and let's him know about it. I want to see him get a little snarly and go right back at him...with authority...with bad intentions. I think once he knows he still has another gear, or two, and being angry isn't a bad thing, I think we'll see what he is truly capable of doing.
Can you imagine what he could do if he had the 'won't back down' attitude of a John Stockton or the fierce competitiveness of MJ? If he did, watch out!
 
riverman said:
With Ant and Scoot starting we needed bench scoring...Scoot might not be starting over him when Ant gets back.
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I actually welcome the thought of an Ant and Shae backcourt to see how it goes for a solid stretch of games. I’d love it even more if Camara started at SF.

Ant/Shae/Camara/Grant/Ayton, based on the film we’ve seen, can be a damn competitive starting five regardless of who we play. It might have to be in little spurts, but we can sub in Scoot as the first off the bench for Camara and play Shae at SF so the rest of the starters can get use to Scoot’s speed. I think Shae, Camara, and DA more than make up for Grant’s lack of rebounding, and having Camara’s energy will set a better tone starting the game.
 
Shae can't go back to the bench. That would be criminal.

If I'm Cronin, I'm exploring options over the next six weeks. Either Simons or Brogdon need to go. I just don't see Simons being happy coming off the bench.
 
Phatguysrule said:
If Scoot is coming off the bench at any point that would be another reason to question Billups.
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Of course, it’s all depend on Scoot’s development by the time Ant gets back. If Scoot figures out the foul trouble and the starting lineup can get use to his pace of play, then obviously you don’t bench him.
 
BankTeller said:
Of course, it’s all depend on Scoot’s development by the time Ant gets back. If Scoot figures out the foul trouble and the starting lineup can get use to his pace of play, then obviously you don’t bench him.
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I don't think you bench him anyway. They need to figure out how to match his pace of play and he needs to figure out how to play aggressive defense with under a foul per quarter.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I don't think you bench him anyway. They need to figure out how to match his pace of play and he needs to figure out how to play aggressive defense with under a foul per quarter.
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Yeah you don't bench Scoot if you want to keep Ayton happy. Scoot was really cooking with Ayton before he got hurt.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I absolutely hate that we're going to be super undersized again..... The answer is to trade Simons. Or he needs to be okay coming off the bench.
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Who cares if he's okay with it or not. The only focus this franchise should have now is maximizing the development of Shae, Scoot, and Ayton. Anything that gets in the way of that needs to be removed.

I think moving Simons has been the obvious move for a while now. Let Brogdon come off the bench and anchor the 2nd unit.
 
n0cturne said:
Who cares if he's okay with it or not. The only focus this franchise should have now is maximizing the development of Shae, Scoot, and Ayton. Anything that gets in the way of that needs to be removed.

I think moving Simons has been the obvious move for a while now. Let Brogdon come off the bench and anchor the 2nd unit.
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I agree Simons should be moved. But not as a fire sale. He's a valuable player and we need to get value in return.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I don't think you bench him anyway. They need to figure out how to match his pace of play and he needs to figure out how to play aggressive defense with under a foul per quarter.
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Natebishop3 said:
Yeah you don't bench Scoot if you want to keep Ayton happy. Scoot was really cooking with Ayton before he got hurt.
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I think both are very fair points. Well, I’ll say Shae’s play so far has made me more optimistic that he can play SF, if anything. I actually like the idea of Shae having to guard the best wing every night. You could always sub in Brogdon and Camara for Ant and Shae eventually, and maybe Ant and Shae can start the 2nd quarter with Camara, Walker, and Williams.
 
BankTeller said:
I think both are very fair points. Well, I’ll say Shae’s play so far has made me more optimistic that he can play SF, if anything. I actually like the idea of Shae having to guard the best wing every night. You could always sub in Brogdon and Camara for Ant and Shae eventually, and maybe Ant and Shae can start the 2nd quarter with Camara, Walker, and Williams.
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Yeah, I was thinking that as well...

If you could trade Ant and Grant for a 3 or 4 who is younger and better than Grant... Damn...
 
n0cturne said:
Who cares if he's okay with it or not. The only focus this franchise should have now is maximizing the development of Shae, Scoot, and Ayton. Anything that gets in the way of that needs to be removed.

I think moving Simons has been the obvious move for a while now. Let Brogdon come off the bench and anchor the 2nd unit.
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You don’t move Ant for anything less than a starting level wing, and it has to be a long term piece. Otherwise, the previous 6 years of investing in his development would’ve been all for a 1st or whatever.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yeah you don't bench Scoot if you want to keep Ayton happy. Scoot was really cooking with Ayton before he got hurt.
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Yeah, to me that is very high on the To Do list for the offense. At the least, it becomes another wrinkle in the offense the other team has to worry about.

At it's most, the Scoot to Ayton connection could become a very-difficult-to-defend two-man game that is a key component of the offense.
 
BankTeller said:
You don’t move Ant for anything less than a starting level wing, and it has to be a long term piece. Otherwise, the previous 6 years of investing in his development would’ve been all for a 1st or whatever.
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Are PF's wings? Cause I'd love for us to have a young PF and also move off of Grant. I'd love to get someone like Jabari Smith Jr. I know he's not available, but a young PF with upside.
 
The Blazers should trade Simons for Lauri Markkanen. He is the one that the Blazers need to be contenders.
 
Lauri Markkanen is the ideal energetic 2-way player that would be the right PF who makes swish3s and allow Ayton to flourish. The rebounding with those 2 on the floor would be at the top of the NBA!
 
Natebishop3 said:
I absolutely hate that we're going to be super undersized again..... The answer is to trade Simons. Or he needs to be okay coming off the bench.
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Undersized is fine if you compete and don't get beat off the dribble. The problem is the Blazers consistently got beat off the double for years and couldn't get through a screen. Sharpe is defending threes just fine. Simons has another gear in him defensively and defended Kawhi well on opening night. At times it felt like Dame defended SFs better than PGs.

Would be criminal not to see what Scoot/Ant/Sharpe could become together. At least give them the chance to prove it wrong work with those three.
 
Somebody who got access to Basketball Reference or similia can please find how many players 20 years old or younger averaged:

20 ppg
5 rpg
3 apg

In a season?

Thanks!
 
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