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e_blazer said:
So, how do we feel about Quick’s bold take for Sharpe from The Athletic’s annual bold take column for each team in the league?

“Shaedon Sharpe becomes a household name: In this third season, the 21-year-old shooting guard will win the slam dunk contest at All-Star Weekend (book it) and will lead the Blazers in scoring. Even with last week’s setback — the Blazers announced Sharpe will miss four-to-six weeks with a tear in his left shoulder — he should return in November and have plenty of season to display his shooting and leaping skills. Sharpe last season was starting to blossom in December, compiling consecutive games of 29, 25, 26, 24, and 27 points before developing an abductor strain that led to surgery in January and limited him to only 32 games. Even with high-volume shooters Anfernee Simons and Jerami Grant as teammates, the 6-foot-6 Sharpe has the talent to be the No. 1 option and is ready to pop onto the scene and validate why the Blazers took him seventh in the 2022 draft. — Jason Quick”
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all that is possible, but I'm worried that labrum tear will end up being more than a 4-6 week problem

I'd also question that Ant and Grant will defer enough usage and shot attempts to Sharpe to allow him to be the leading scorer
 
wizenheimer said:
all that is possible, but I'm worried that labrum tear will end up being more than a 4-6 week problem

I'd also question that Ant and Grant will defer enough usage and shot attempts to Sharpe to allow him to be the leading scorer
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As a general rule, when a player is ready to become the #1 option, they take over. Their teammates know and the coaches know when it is their time. I wouldn't worry about Grant and Ant being so selfish that they would prevent him from doing so. People were saying that last year as well. We just need to get the guy on the court first.
 
That he has had a second one in the same shoulder makes me suspect surgery may ultimately be best for him.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
As a general rule, when a player is ready to become the #1 option, they take over. Their teammates know and the coaches know when it is their time. I wouldn't worry about Grant and Ant being so selfish that they would prevent him from doing so. People were saying that last year as well. We just need to get the guy on the court first.
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I don't believe that's true

Monta Ellis wasn't going to defer to Curry or Klay. Zach Randolph wasn't going to defer to Aldridge

Simons and Grant may have been willing to defer to Dame...with good reason. Sharpe may be capable of being the #1 option but it's entirely possible, maybe even likely, that Simons and Grant won't see it and won't defer. There is such a thing as a pecking order. We all know that's true. I think Sharpe would have to be playing like Devin Booker before Simons & Grant (and Ayton) would consider deferring to him. But playing well below Booker's level would still be worthy of being the 1st option on this Blazer team

I'm skeptical Sharpe will be that good, especially after missing training camp and pre-season; and likely the first 2 or 3 weeks of the season.
 
wizenheimer said:
all that is possible, but I'm worried that labrum tear will end up being more than a 4-6 week problem

I'd also question that Ant and Grant will defer enough usage and shot attempts to Sharpe to allow him to be the leading scorer
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He needs to demand the ball more if he wants shots.
 
Hoopguru said:
He needs to demand the ball more if he wants shots.
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And he may do that if there weren't a bunch of vets who didn't want to give him the ball.

Cleveland had to trade Ricky Davis before LeBron could take over. LeBron.
 
Phatguysrule said:
And he may do that if there weren't a bunch of vets who didn't want to give him the ball.

Cleveland had to trade Ricky Davis before LeBron could take over. LeBron.
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Not true. LeBron was LeBron right away, Ricky Davis wasn’t in his way.
 
KingSpeed said:
Not true. LeBron was LeBron right away, Ricky Davis wasn’t in his way.
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Yeah I've seen interviews with Paul Silas in which he said the exact opposite. He didn't call Ricky Davis out by name but it was very clear.

He said the difference in LeBron after getting those guys off the team was remarkable. It was critical for his development.
 
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If Shaedon doesn't want to show that he should be a number 1 on a rebuilding team on its way up, not sure he ever will want to be a one? Thats strictly up to Shaedon Sharpe as to if the team wants to build around him.
 
Hoopguru said:
If Shaedon doesn't want to show that he should be a number 1 on a rebuilding team on its way up, not sure he ever will want to be a one? Thats strictly up to Shaedon Sharpe as to if the team wants to build around him.
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That's just not the way it works. I mean, otherwise Jermaine would have been an All Star as a Blazer...
 
So, about the responses I expected. Put out an optimistic storyline and Blazer fans’ Pavlovian response to having been kicked in the nuts so many times by the fates that we believe rule basketball is going to erupt. Throw in the name “Jason Quick” and the positivity is DOA. I do think it should be noted that the whole point of the article that Quick contributed to is “bold takes” for each team as to something that could generate excitement. Like the rest of you, I’m not holding my breath that this is going to happen, but boy do I want it to.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Yeah I've seen interviews with Paul Silas in which he said the exact opposite. He didn't call Ricky Davis out by name but it was very clear.

He said the difference in LeBron after getting those guys off the team was remarkable. It was critical for his development.
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It wasn’t. He was great from the first game on.
 
KingSpeed said:
He didn’t struggle. I mean, his first game was one of the best of his career.
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His first game was “one of the best of his career”? Sigh…..
It was an amazing game for an 18 year old playing against grown men in his first game….. but he’s easily had bette……. What am I doing even trying to reply……sigh
 
KingSpeed said:
He didn’t struggle. I mean, his first game was one of the best of his career.
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He struggled in practice and in team settings. He wasn't comfortable. There is a reason they made so many changes after drafting LeBron.

I don't remember the exact episode for certain that Paul Silas spoke about it, but it was in the series "Basketball: A Love Story". I think it was the episode specifically about LeBron.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Yeah I've seen interviews with Paul Silas in which he said the exact opposite. He didn't call Ricky Davis out by name but it was very clear.

He said the difference in LeBron after getting those guys off the team was remarkable. It was critical for his development.
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Lebron James played 79 games and 39.5 minutes a game his rookie season. Ricky Davis was traded after 22 games in Cleveland and was never any real issue. Part of what you are saying is correct they traded him but he was not in the conversation long enough to ever hold Lebron back. There are quotes by Ricky that he felt Lebron wasn't really ready but that's pretty much only Ricky himself.
 
Phatguysrule said:
He struggled. Paul Silas said it made a huge difference getting those guys gone and LeBron was able to be more assertive.
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I think this is probably true. They made a decision to just go with Lebron and give him the keys. That usually makes any player better.
 
Hoopguru said:
If Shaedon doesn't want to show that he should be a number 1 on a rebuilding team on its way up, not sure he ever will want to be a one? Thats strictly up to Shaedon Sharpe as to if the team wants to build around him.
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Correct, once someone is ready to take the next leap, they will naturally supplant others. That's common sense.

This isn't a scenario where Sharpe is sitting on the bench and not getting minutes. At one point last year he was leading the league in minutes played.
 
sheed30 said:
Correct, once someone is ready to take the next leap, they will naturally supplant others. That's common sense.

This isn't a scenario where Sharpe is sitting on the bench and not getting minutes. At one point last year he was leading the league in minutes played.
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Right. And at that point he was also among the leaders in scoring.
 
kjironman1 said:
Lebron James played 79 games and 39.5 minutes a game his rookie season. Ricky Davis was traded after 22 games in Cleveland and was never any real issue. Part of what you are saying is correct they traded him but he was not in the conversation long enough to ever hold Lebron back. There are quotes by Ricky that he felt Lebron wasn't really ready but that's pretty much only Ricky himself.
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Darius Miles as well. There was also another guy who is escaping me...

*Edit* I think it was Carlos Boozer.
 
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Damn if only the Cavs would have kept Ricky Davis..... LBJ would still probably be a Robin to someone's Batman.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Damn if only the Cavs would have kept Ricky Davis..... LBJ would still probably be a Robin to someone's Batman.
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Or maybe LeBron would have left the cavs earlier. Or maybe he would have gotten into trouble trying to deal with the stress. Or maybe he would have eaten himself into a Zion form...

The point is, nobody else has the same ability as LeBron. But it was a big enough problem even for LeBron that the franchise had to move guys to clear his runway. And his Coach noticed the difference enough to talk about it when interviewed about LeBron's first two seasons.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Or maybe LeBron would have left the cavs earlier. Or maybe he would have gotten into trouble trying to deal with the stress. Or maybe he would have eaten himself into a Zion form...

The point is, nobody else has the same ability as LeBron. But it was a big enough problem even for LeBron that the franchise had to move guys to clear his runway. And his Coach noticed the difference enough to talk about it when interviewed about LeBron's first two seasons.
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So wtf does that have to do with Sharpe and Ant? Every situation is completely different because the players are completely different. Ricky Davis is considered one of the worst teammates in the history of the NBA. Are you saying that Ant is? Or more importantly, do you think his teammates think so?
 
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