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illmatic99 said:
someone loyal to stotts who didn't appreciate getting thrown under the bus?
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You sir I’ve noticed are really defending Mr. Olshey. Specific reason, or do you have some info? Have you ever interacted with him. Honest question.
 
illmatic99 said:
Woj, maybe. But I've been following Quick for 20+ yrs. He's not that manipulative. I think he's simply out to find a good story.
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maybe, and maybe he's right

but I would say he has better sources around Olshey than he does with the law firm investigating or the Vulcans. I doubt the law firm or the Vulcans are leaking anything
 
illmatic99 said:
Quick:

There is a good chance he keeps his job. This was going to be a short investigation. They talked to 60 people in 2 days and it keeps being expanded. If they had found anything, they would have canned him by now. People have told me... they haven't found anything. The Woj story about this union of sorts to protect against accusations is really telling. I think people in the league know Neil. He can be abrasive, but being mean is a not a reason to fire him. What do they really have here? They have some employees saying "he's being mean and he yelled at me." They don't have enough to act on it.

I don't think this originated from Jody/Kolde. They're simply doing their due diligence and listening to employees. I have an idea of where it's coming from but don't have it rock solid yet. This is a coordinated effort potentially from people in the organization who don't like him. In 10 yrs, almost nobody has left BECAUSE of him. He has had almost 0 turnover, 0 HR complaints. There's a lot of things that don't add up. We'll see if the investigation issues a report, but I think it's turning a bit.

Re: Death of video coordinator--
Immediately after, Olshey offered employees counseling. There were some who felt like there weren't efforts to replace him and their workloads increased. I'm not clear but don't feel like that is at the core of this investigation.
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Quick could be right that Olshey will be cleared but this report doesn't make any sense. Investigations that keep getting expanded are usually not a great sign for the people being investigated. Using that as a sign that everything's great for Olshey because "if there was anything there, it would have been found quickly and he'd have been fired immediately" isn't ever how I've seen these work. No investigation stops at the first firing offense just to wrap things up quickly--nearly every entity that launches an investigation wants a full and complete report to ensure they have the full story and to have an airtight case if the evidence points to firing.

This just sounds like filler. We'll find out when the final report is issued, I guess.
 
Chris Craig said:
The Blazers are paying Andrew Nicholson $2.8 million through 2024
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He got waived and stretched. That doesn't mean that the team is still paying him. He got paid his salary on the normal schedule as outlined by the contract and the cap hit got spread throughout more seasons than the original contract length.
 
BonesJones said:
He got waived and stretched. That doesn't mean that the team is still paying him. He got paid his salary on the normal schedule as outlined by the contract and the cap hit got spread throughout more seasons than the original contract length.
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It still is going against the cap.
 
BonesJones said:
He got waived and stretched. That doesn't mean that the team is still paying him. He got paid his salary on the normal schedule as outlined by the contract and the cap hit got spread throughout more seasons than the original contract length.
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moot point bro. Cant spend the money regardless if he has been paid in full yet or not.
 
BonesJones said:
I know... As I said the cap hit got stretthed out. That doesn't mean the team is still sending him checks.
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Yeah, but the Blazers still can't spend that money and that is on Neil
 
blazerkor said:
I don't put much weight in any of these reports including Quick's but I sure hope this one is right. We need to move on from Olshey. Give the new GM or more likely interim GM the power to make moves and get a piece in here in a trade for CJ that makes more sense with Dame, balances the roster and moves Powell back to his natural position.
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We heard you loud and clear the other million times you have mentioned the same exact thing. We get it buddy
 
Chris Craig said:
Yeah, but the Blazers still can't spend that money and that is on Neil
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You're arguing something no one else is but they're over the cap so they couldn't spend it anyway. But again, all I'm saying is the team isn't still paying those guys, so I don't know what your arguing or what it has to do with that.
 
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Orion Bailey said:
again. Arguing a moot point. We cant spend the money so what does it matter?
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I'm not saying anything about it mattering with roster construction or if it's moot or whatever... All I'm saying is the team isn't paying them anymore, that's IT. FFS.
 
Fun (if pointless) game: come up with the best Blazers starting 5 that we COULD have had if
(a) we'd taken the player who later turned out to be great instead of the Meyers Leonards/Zach Collins of this world, but
(b) this somehow kept all our draft picks happening in exactly the same place anyway.

My suggestion:
PG: Dame (congratulations whomever picked him - we will never settle this)
SG: Jalen Brunson (instead of Anfernee - this is the weak link)
F: Giannis (instead of CJ)
F: Draymond (instead of Meyers)
C: Bam Adebayo (instead of Zach)

Some great players, I'm not sure about the shooting though.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Fun (if pointless) game: come up with the best Blazers starting 5 that we COULD have had if
(a) we'd taken the player who later turned out to be great instead of the Meyers Leonards/Zach Collins of this world, but
(b) this somehow kept all our draft picks happening in exactly the same place anyway.

My suggestion:
PG: Dame (congratulations whomever picked him - we will never settle this)
SG: Jalen Brunson (instead of Anfernee - this is the weak link)
F: Giannis (instead of CJ)
F: Draymond (instead of Meyers)
C: Bam Adebayo (instead of Zach)

Some great players, I'm not sure about the shooting though.
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just about endless combinations (especially if Portland could delete the Afflalo trade)

* Dame-Donovan Mitchell-Khris Middleton-Siakam-Giannis ....if you're worried about shooting(they'd still have Nurk to go big in all these fantasies)

* Dame-Middleton-Siakam-Giannis-Adebayo

* Dame-Middleton-OG Anunoby-John Collins-Giannis

main thing is Dame + Giannis = dynasty
 
BonesJones said:
You're arguing something no one else is but they're over the cap so they couldn't spend it anyway. But again, all I'm saying is the team isn't still paying those guys, so I don't know what your arguing or what it has to do with that.
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This all stems from Julius's post that you replied too. He was getting at the fact there is still dead money on the books among other screw ups of Neil.

He said we are still paying ex players. You contended we we weren't. What he meant was there was still dead money on the cap all these years later.

That's what I was saying. I believe that was what OB was saying.
 
Chris Craig said:
This all stems from Julius's post that you replied too. He was getting at the fact there is still dead money on the books among other screw ups of Neil.

He said we are still paying ex players. You contended we we weren't. What he meant was there was still dead money on the cap all these years later.

That's what I was saying. I believe that was what OB was saying.
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In a nutshell, yes.
 
Chris Craig said:
This all stems from Julius's post that you replied too. He was getting at the fact there is still dead money on the books among other screw ups of Neil.

He said we are still paying ex players. You contended we we weren't. What he meant was there was still dead money on the cap all these years later.

That's what I was saying. I believe that was what OB was saying.
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practically speaking....Portland was never paying for Nicholson. They paid about 38M dollars for 1 year of Allen Crabbe
 
wizenheimer said:
practically speaking....Portland was never paying for Nicholson. They paid about 38M dollars for 1 year of Allen Crabbe
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Ok, but the point is for the past 6-7 seasons there has been dead money on the Blazers Salary. It will be there for two more seasons
 
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