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Who is freaking out? I mean shit lol.

It's funny. the dude copy pasted his "master thesis". What a buffoon.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Who is freaking out? I mean shit lol.

It's funny. the dude copy pasted his "master thesis". What a buffoon.
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Perhaps "freaking out" isn't the words I should have used. It just seems to me like the Left has found yet ONE MORE THING to bang their Communist hammers on (that's a joke...get it? Communist Hammers....symbol of Communism...?). And at this point, it's just sad and desperate.
 
CNN is definitely sad and desperate.

But come on, so is copy pasting your masters thesis lol.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
CNN is definitely sad and desperate.

But come on, so is copy pasting your masters thesis lol.
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Come on. I'm not defending plagiarism. Honestly I'm not. But for all we know it could have been one paragraph out of a 200-page thesis. Nowhere has it been mentioned that he copied his entire thesis from other people's work.

All I'm asking is this: is this REALLY worth it; missed quotation marks? It just seems petty and vindictive to me for CNN to hammer the guy with. Can't they just grow up?
 
Jade Falcon said:
For example: I REALLY don't like Clinton or Obama. BUT....even I have the decency to realize that Clinton didn't plan out the Benghazi attack and murder Chris Stevens (I think she was negligent in how she handled it, but it wasn't premeditated in murder). And Obama isn't a Muslim who was born in Kenya. And yeah, the Republicans could have worked with him a bit better than they did.

See? That's being objective. Are you capable of doing the same for the Right? Your history says otherwise.
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Wow, Hillary isn't a murderer, and Obama wasn't born in Kenya? You do earn the objectivity merit badge!

I will try to match you, though:

Pence is not a murderer, and Trump was not born in Kenya.

Am I objective now?

You certainly seem annoyed by the fact that I'm not freaking out with the rest of the Left over this issue.
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I seem annoyed? You aren't reading me right.

This story is not important at all. Clarke is not important. His old job wasn't important, his new job doesn't seem to be important, whether he is or isn't a plagiarist (he is) is meaningless.

The only reason we are talking about it at all is that you implied that the story was made up, a claim which is factually untrue. You've now changed your view to 'even if it's true, it's not important', which is the correct response.

barfo
 
Jade Falcon said:
Come on. I'm not defending plagiarism. Honestly I'm not. But for all we know it could have been one paragraph out of a 200-page thesis.
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Clarke failed to properly attribute his sources at least 47 times.
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barfo
 
barfo said:
The only reason we are talking about it at all is that you implied that the story was made up, a claim which is factually untrue. You've now changed your view to 'even if it's true, it's not important', which is the correct response.

barfo
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That's your problem. I never implied that at all. All I said was that I didn't take CNN seriously about anything. Not taking CNN seriously about anything doesn't mean that I think the topic at hand is false.

But I do think that it was exaggerated and blown grossly out of proportion.

barfo said:
barfo
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47....words? Sentences? Lines? Paragraphs? Pages?
 
Jade Falcon said:
That's your problem. I never implied that at all.
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Really? Let's look:

It makes me wonder if CNN is capable of being unbiased and rational about anything by this point. They would make up some bullshit against a Nun who feeds the poor if they thought she voted for Trump.
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I guess the 'make up some bullshit' part made me think that you were implying the story was false.

If you were just saying that presenting the story about Clarke makes them biased and irrational, I guess I misunderstood.

47....words? Sentences? Lines? Paragraphs? Pages?
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You know, you could read the story yourself instead of asking. SPD provided the link.

barfo
 
barfo said:
Really? Let's look:



I guess the 'make up some bullshit' part made me think that you were implying the story was false.

If you were just saying that presenting the story about Clarke makes them biased and irrational, I guess I misunderstood.



You know, you could read the story yourself instead of asking. SPD provided the link.

barfo
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Indeed, it was a figure of speech on my part. I apologize if that was misunderstood.

As for the link, I didn't see it, but I've moved on to other things. I'll check it later. Short attention span and all that.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Exactly, the media doesn't let either party off the hook. Not even obscure former candidates for senate apparently lol.
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They were all aboard the Biden for president train (Clinton was that bad).

So... plagiarism OK for their favored Democrat for the highest office, but not OK for someone they don't like in a lower office.

Not that I care about this guy. If Trump wants to hire him, it's his administration and right to do so. If we, as a people, don't like his administration, vote him out.
 


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Jade Falcon said:
It makes me wonder if CNN is capable of being unbiased and rational about anything by this point. They would make up some bullshit against a Nun who feeds the poor if they thought she voted for Trump.
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She did vote trump. She's doing God's will.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
It's not a crime. Naval Academy accepted it and issued him a masters degree.
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Naval Academy doesn't give Master's degrees. No graduate education there. Maybe Naval War College?

Edit: Saw later in the thread that it was NPS. Makes more sense...more civilians go there. I, as a dirty reservist, cannot.

And I've taken more than a couple of Master's courses, and at the beginning of each semester each class goes through a whole "this is plagiarizing and can get you kicked out. Don't do it." If the dude didn't properly annotate his quotations, it's plagiarism. There are literally books written on how to do so. And on the front page is usually some signature block that reads something like "This work is my own and I take full responsibility for any positions, errors, etc. in it blah blah legalese."

Read the Chicago Manual of Style or Turabian's Guide to Writing Dissertations and Theses, then post your thesis.
 
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BrianFromWA said:
Naval Academy doesn't give Master's degrees. No graduate education there. Maybe Naval War College?

Edit: Saw later in the thread that it was NPS. Makes more sense...more civilians go there. I, as a dirty reservist, cannot.

And I've taken more than a couple of Master's courses, and at the beginning of each semester each class goes through a whole "this is plagiarizing and can get you kicked out. Don't do it." If the dude didn't properly annotate his quotations, it's plagiarism. There are literally books written on how to do so. And on the front page is usually some signature block that reads something like "This work is my own and I take full responsibility for any positions, errors, etc. in it blah blah legalese."

Read the Chicago Manual of Style or Turabian's Guide to Writing Dissertations and Theses, then post your thesis.
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Wow! It never occurred to me to raise plagiarism to a high level of awareness. If you think something and express the thought, is it plagiarism when it has been expressed before? Or is intent to claim another's thought required?
 
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MarAzul said:
If you think something and express the thought, is it plagiarism when it has been expressed before? Or is intent claim another's thought required?
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sources and source materials are supposed to be credited and listed as references if they are published I believe..
 
I have no idea what the warrant was for, but it's not plagiarism. I haven't had time to look into this story, are there any clues to what the law was after?
 
MarAzul said:
Wow! It never occurred to me to raise plagiarism to a high level of awareness. If you think something and express the thought, is it plagiarism when it has been expressed before? Or is intent to claim another's thought required?
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Yes, of course. Anytime you have a thought that someone else has thought before, even if it is just "I need to take a leak", it's plagiarism and you can go to jail for it - or worse!

barfo
 
MarAzul said:
Well I accept your position. But what is it when there is no source other than the authors thought?
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This made me laugh in english class when you submit your paper to a website designed to tell you how much of your paper is plagiarized. I wrote a completely fictional story from my brain that was said to be 6% plagiarized according to the website.
 
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