Should have traded Aldridge for harden

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julius said:
considering one of their issues was salary cap restrictions, um...you take the guy with the ending contract, the 2 picks (one of which I believe is a lottery pick) and a rookie.
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We don't know that exactly. We know they were unwilling to max out both Harden AND Westbrook. Why wouldn't they be willing to pay for one of the top power forwards in the game?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yeah, but STOMP are you saying that if you were presented with the option of:

Harden for Aldridge

or

Harden for Kevin Martin and Jeremy Lamb

You would choose the latter?
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Not sure how I'm being confusing here. I'm saying that LA cost significantly more then they were willing to spend, so a swap for Harden was never a possibility. Nolan for LBJ would be my prefered fantasy...if we're not bound by reality why not dream big?

STOMP
 
Natebishop3 said:
We don't know that exactly. We know they were unwilling to max out both Harden AND Westbrook. Why wouldn't they be willing to pay for one of the top power forwards in the game?
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Because they already paid that summer over 10 million for Ibaka as well. would be a lot o fmoney on two PFs. When they wwre unwilling to do so for Harden.
 
The trade could have been structured to bring Ibaka or Perkins to PDX with Harden, thus addressing the financial issue.
 
blue9 said:
The trade could have been structured to bring Ibaka or Perkins to PDX with Harden, thus addressing the financial issue.
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could have been, but that speciulates an even bigger deal. For Harden they got a recent lotto pick, a guaranteed lotto pick, another pick, and also got a guy who can get them 20 points a night as a 6th man in Martin. All that for Harden, why would they add another good piece to "just" get Aldridge back?
 
Natebishop3 said:
We don't know that exactly. We know they were unwilling to max out both Harden AND Westbrook. Why wouldn't they be willing to pay for one of the top power forwards in the game?
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Then we are back to saying Presti is not too bright. He saw Hardin every day for three years in practice and games and still wanted to unload him? I guess we all assume it was a money issue because everyone asked the question for about two years.. "how is OKC going to sign all three of them when their rookie contracts expire?"

And I don't buy the Westbrook-Hardin duplication theory. It obviously was working or they would not have reached the finals. To me it is simple, they either did not want to max out 3 guys, or they are stupid........
 
I'm sure it would have been more than "just" LMA. Crawford probably would have been part of the deal - plus our draft pick (#11).
But then I suppose at the last deadline OKC was still hoping that Harden wouldn't demand MAX... But you have to wonder if they were offered LMA/Crawford/lotto pick for Harden/Perkins they may have taken that up in order to shed Perkins, not have to fret about whether they'd retain Harden, and obtain a lotto pick - and get a PF that most think is (one of) the best in the league.
Nobody will ever know if it could have happened, but it doesn't seem far-fetched.
 
blue9 said:
I'm sure it would have been more than "just" LMA. Crawford probably would have been part of the deal - plus our draft pick (#11).
But then I suppose at the last deadline OKC was still hoping that Harden wouldn't demand MAX... But you have to wonder if they were offered LMA/Crawford/lotto pick for Harden/Perkins they may have taken that up in order to shed Perkins, not have to fret about whether they'd retain Harden, and obtain a lotto pick - and get a PF that most think is (one of) the best in the league.
Nobody will ever know if it could have happened, but it doesn't seem far-fetched.
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that's the problem is we don't know, and speculating on it as if it was close to happening just makes people get mad about something they made up in their head, which seems stupid. Oh, we should have done X, without knowing if X was possible. So so and so was stupid for not doing it.
 
Eh - that's why we're here. To speculate, argue, and get mad over dumb shit that doesn't matter.
 
For the record - that lineup looks bad! Hickson and Leonard? Oh man!
 
LA is a stud. Period.

Roy, Oden and Aldridge. It's a good thing for the league the other two didn't translate. Had no idea he was this good.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
We need a real center to take pressure off LA. Hickson isn't a center, in a perfect world he comes off the bench and dominates.

As for SGs worth LA? not a lot that we could acquire because anyone we take back has to be an allstar.
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Quoted for motherfucking truth.

hoop fam
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm so glad I was wrong.

With that said, nobody predicted that Aldridge would take a leap like this. Nobody.
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A few of us said he was the best PF in the game. Who knew he was more......

hoop fam
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm so glad I was wrong.

With that said, nobody predicted that Aldridge would take a leap like this. Nobody.
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True. But in my mind it doesn't make any difference. It really comes down to a philosophical difference of strategies. I just don't think you trade your all star for basically "potential" because you are afraid you will lose him for nothing as a FA in few years. Not saying that either strategy is fool proof. They are both risky, but I think trading your best player in their prime is way more riskier.

Here is to healthy LMA!
 
magnifier661 said:
Nope, look back two years and look at my thread start on how I believed Aldridge could average 20/10. I was laughed all throughout that thread.
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No Mags. No.

This is not just "averaging 20 and 10." He is playing at a superstar level. He is so far beyond 20 and 10 right now.
 
Natebishop3 said:
No Mags. No.

This is not just "averaging 20 and 10." He is playing at a superstar level. He is so far beyond 20 and 10 right now.
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Here's a good question.

This years Aldridge....

Or 08/09 Roy?
 
magnifier661 said:
Oh you mean MVP level? Yeah I never thought that
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I never thought he had this in him. It's still early, and it's tough to sustain this kind of play over the course of a season, BUT he is definitely playing the best ball of his career.
 
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B-Roy said:
Here's a good question.

This years Aldridge....

Or 08/09 Roy?
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I take this year's Aldridge because what Aldridge does makes things easier for his team mates. Not discounting Roy because I loved him too. Just this year's Aldridge is spectacular
 
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