Should Olshey try to reach the salary floor?

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I am fine either way they decide to go. Don't think this is the plan though.

We have seen a couple of deals where teams have made money. Portland could have done this but has chosen not to. We did the Miller deal since it netted us two draft picks. I think Neil wants to gain assets. If we cannot get anything but can make a few million at the deadline without giving up anything, I have no problem with it.

 

[Denny Crane]

BEdge clarified this a bit: http://www.blazersedge.com/2016/1/14/10772416/portland-trail-blazers-trades-salary-cap



In this example, the 8.5 mil difference comes from the fact that PA would only be responsible for paying that player a third of his actual contract value because we'd acquire him in the middle of February.

The whole incentive is that it saves PA a chunk of change. My rationale is that I don't care about saving him as much money as much as maximizing our value for assets. If we get some second rounders or future firsts to absorb contracts, go for it.

If Neil can save money, I say go for it. I don't think he should squeeze the nickels, but I don't think he should spend money he doesn't need to. The players signed the contracts they signed. They'll get what's owed them, what they negotiated for. I don't think the CBA allows the team to pay bonuses if they wanted to.

 

[Orion Bailey]

If Neil can save money, I say go for it. I don't think he should squeeze the nickels, but I don't think he should spend money he doesn't need to. The players signed the contracts they signed. They'll get what's owed them, what they negotiated for. I don't think the CBA allows the team to pay bonuses if they wanted to.

I wish the NBA would let incentive contracts in like the NFL.
Player of the week? $1o,ooo bonus. Player of the month, $100,00 bonus. MVP, $1,000,000 bonus. Average over 20pts per game for the season another $1,000,000 bonus.
Lead the team in rebounds? $500,000 bonus. Etc.

Or something like that. I don't think we would ever see lazy play like Nico again.

 

[Denny Crane]

I wish the NBA would let incentive contracts in like the NFL.
Player of the week? $1o,ooo bonus. Player of the month, $100,00 bonus. MVP, $1,000,000 bonus. Average over 20pts per game for the season another $1,000,000 bonus.
Lead the team in rebounds? $500,000 bonus. Etc.

Or something like that. I don't think we would ever see lazy play like Nico again.

They do allow similar bonuses. Joakim Noah earned one for his DPOY and 1st team all nba season. The bulls were so scared of paying the LT, they did a salary dump in anticipation of Taj Gibson earning a bonus for 6MOY.

EDIT: to clarify, the Bulls cut Erik Murphy and the Jazz owed them a "favor" so they picked him up, getting the Bulls under the LT.

 

[Orion Bailey]

They do allow similar bonuses. Joakim Noah earned one for his DPOY and 1st team all nba season. The bulls were so scared of paying the LT, they did a salary dump in anticipation of Taj Gibson earning a bonus for 6MOY.

EDIT: to clarify, the Bulls cut Erik Murphy and the Jazz owed them a "favor" so they picked him up, getting the Bulls under the LT.

I dont understand why incentive based contracts aren't used more often then.

 

[Denny Crane]

I dont understand why incentive based contracts aren't used more often then.

I think they might be common. Very few guys actually earn those incentive bonuses.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...140406_1_tom-thibodeau-taj-gibson-erik-murphy

Jazz do Bulls a favor by claiming Murphy
Rookie's salary-cap number comes off books and club stays on track to add veteran help

WASHINGTON — Players and coaches weren't the only ones happy that the Jazz claimed Erik Murphy off waivers Saturday evening.

Bulls management had to be ecstatic as well.

Beyond the well-liked rookie staying in the NBA, Murphy's cap number of $490,180 comes off the Bulls' books. That would keep the Bulls out of the luxury tax even if Joakim Noah makes first-team All-NBA and earns a $500,000 bonus.

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

Great question and not much of a topic of discussion as of late, but is fairly important.



Im with you. I chose no, but with kind of an asterisk. I have no issues spending the money on an expiring if it is something to help build for the long term ( IE. player resigns with us and is a piece to the puzzle, ETC.)
If thats the case, then hell yes, go get that player that will help us.

Thaddeus Young?

 

[RR7]

I dont understand why incentive based contracts aren't used more often then.

There's a set limit of how much of a contract could be likely and unlikely incentives.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Thaddeus Young?

mmm, Not based off what I saw this evening.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I wish the NBA would let incentive contracts in like the NFL.
Player of the week? $1o,ooo bonus. Player of the month, $100,00 bonus. MVP, $1,000,000 bonus. Average over 20pts per game for the season another $1,000,000 bonus.
Lead the team in rebounds? $500,000 bonus. Etc.

Or something like that. I don't think we would ever see lazy play like Nico again.

Why the slam at Nico? He was among league leaders in distance traveled on the court. How is he lazy?

Regardless, incentivized contracts are an interesting thing.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Why the slam at Nico? He was among league leaders in distance traveled on the court. How is he lazy?

Regardless, incentivized contracts are an interesting thing.

Eh, most miles doesn't mean effort. I am speaking more of lackadaisical game play. Loafing, floating. Not being assertive and aggressive. That would all change I think if he knew he would make an extra $10,000 a night if he had a double double.
I am singling Nic out, yes and maybe he is an anomaly where he puts up numbers even when looking passive. I honestly don't think Nic wold have performed any better with an incentive, but I think the majority of basket ball players would. And actually, I dont mean play better, I just mean give more effort. No quit. Running up on EVERY shot on D. ETC. Hope that made my view a bit more clear. Not really trying to knock on Nic, but he is the first that came to mind, and after watching his career here, Im wondering why your questioning me? lol
I think we all believe Nic could have been so much more of an impact player in his career thus far. I really thought he would turn into our second option behind LMA.