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julius said:
Maybe you should pay attention to what he's saying. I don't want to speak for him (he's far more knowledgeable on the subject than I am), but it's akin to going to Canada, and telling the first nation Canadians you know more about what works for them then they do, because you heard something from 1 person who says things that allow you to hide in your bigotry.

And the "you" in this story isn't you personally.
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Go away.
 
crandc said:
No you don't have to take my word. Look it up. Aren't you aware of what the people you admire say about important issues?
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I already responded on this regarding my comment to you.
 
I cannot ever support the Woods on Organization because:
I am not Christian
They are opposed to equal rights for LGBTQ people
They promote a sanitized version of American history that won't upset white people
When ABM started promoting them I did look them up.
And Owens and Elder both live Trump and whitewash the whit supremacist January 6 insurrection.
 
julius said:
Educate yourself.
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So, as I understand, what it boils down to you is that I'm hearing from the wrong Blacks. In other words, the Conservative ones. Therein lies the debate. It has nothing to do with being a racist...as you (and others have continually described me to be.

I told dviss that we'd have to agree to disagree.
 
dviss1 said:
What reality are you living in? She had a meltdown over showing hitler affection and tried to blame it on context?

Huh? The context didn't even involve hitler...
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Lieu brought up Hitler in some clip and it was a huge stretch. She fired back and he wilted. The speaker banged his gavel and got mad at something she didn’t even do. I can’t stand Candace Owens but this of all things was ridiculous.
 
ABM said:
So, as I understand, what it boils down to you is that I'm hearing from the wrong Blacks. In other words, the Conservative ones. Therein lies the debate. It has nothing to do with being a racist...as you (and others have continually described me to be.

I told dviss that we'd have to agree to disagree.
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As usual, you hear what you want to hear and don't pay attention to anything outside of your ass safety bubble.

Whatever. You do you.

I know, you'll respond with "I will" "and the like", etc
 
julius said:
As usual, you hear what you want to hear and don't pay attention to anything outside of your ass safety bubble.

Whatever. You do you.

I know, you'll respond with "I will" "and the like", etc
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Lemme ask a different way: Because, I'm agreeing with, touting, and financially supporting the efforts of many Black conservatives, in and of itself, does that make me a racist? And if not, please, I mean PLEASE show me where I've made alternative statements that show or prove me to be a racist otherwise.
 
You supporting black conservatives isn't what makes you a racist, no. It's the rest of the package that does.
 
RR7 said:
You supporting black conservatives isn't what makes you a racist, no. It's the rest of the package that does.
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Meaning exactly what?
 
I can't understand how anyone can argue that the institution of our country is not imbedded in racism. For the first hundred years of our countries existence we kidnapped people from their continent and forced them under the worst conditions to do our bidding. We saw them as less than us. Less then men. In the original constitution they and not to mention women were property...fucking property...not people.

It took a century nearly to finally begin to recognize African Americans as people. And, it is only so because of an ammendment. A fucking footnote that says oh ok...I guess they are people and they are free and stuff.

And a lot of people were not OK with that. It fractured the country. Broke it in half. The Union and the Confederacy. People in the south were so distraught they were going to have to treat African Americans as people it started a war. The Civil fucking war. They didn't want to give it up. That's how imbedded racism fucking is in our country.

The south lost of course. Those poor souls. They had to free their slaves and pick their own cotton. Or else actually pay people to do it.

Though they freed their slaves, they didn't have to like it. They treated African Americans the same. The south created restrictive laws (old Jim Crow) during reconstruction to hamper black people from having equality. Sound familiar? Black people were citizens and were given to right to vote by further ammendments. But, the south made it as hard as possible on them with more and more restrictive laws. That's how imbedded racism is in our country.

They continued calling African Americans the same slurs into the 20th century. These threatened white men created the KKK to have circle Jerks with fellow racists, and hid under sheets so they could kill black people. (Think about that...if you are hiding under a sheet with eye holes cut in it and are killing black people for fun...are the black people the problem there?)

And the hate continued, not letting black people eat at the same restaurants, drink from the same fountains, learn from the same schools. That's how imbedded racism is in our country.

Segregation was then ended in ways thanks to Brown v Education which laid the foundation. Schools, restaurants, and drinking fountains, etc were for everyone.

But, racism remained. The bloody Civil Rights movement of the 60s moved things forward however slowly but not truly.

Black people aren't paid as much. They are some of the poorest portions of America. Many still live in gentrified areas and are forced into gangs to have some semblance of power. There are still restrictive laws put into place to stop them from voting. They are the majority of incarcerated populations.

Beneath the presents surface the past remains, as we saw in 2016 when Trump became president. He awakened a dormant portion of a seething far right wing ideology that never truly left. Confederate flags flew freely and popular among the right, even becoming a symbol for Trumps politics. Far right wing whites marching against blacks. Patriots.

This is how imbedded racism is in our country

It's still here. It never left. We haven't taken responsibility for our true history and many want to deny it ever happened.

But, let's not teach that to our kids
 
crandc said:
I cannot ever support the Woods on Organization because:
I am not Christian
They are opposed to equal rights for LGBTQ people
They promote a sanitized version of American history that won't upset white people
When ABM started promoting them I did look them up.
And Owens and Elder both live Trump and whitewash the whit supremacist January 6 insurrection.
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One of the funniest things about Christianity is...they made Jesus white. Dude was not white.
 
ABM said:
So, as I understand, what it boils down to you is that I'm hearing from the wrong Blacks. In other words, the Conservative ones. Therein lies the debate. It has nothing to do with being a racist...as you (and others have continually described me to be.

I told dviss that we'd have to agree to disagree.
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But, can't you see how some of those views might be seen as racist?
 
ABM said:
So, as I understand, what it boils down to you is that I'm hearing from the wrong Blacks. In other words, the Conservative ones. Therein lies the debate. It has nothing to do with being a racist...as you (and others have continually described me to be.

I told dviss that we'd have to agree to disagree.
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Owen's is just trying to buy into far right ideologies rather than to accept the history of her people.
 
Chris Craig said:
Owen's is just trying to buy into far right ideologies rather than to accept the history of her people.
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I disagree. She was a strong Democrat at one time. IIRC, she left the party because she thought it was holding Blacks back by working to keep them government-reliant, while also feeding the Democratic machine as a whole. It's a generalization, but I think you get the gist.
 
ABM said:
Watch Uncle Tom and let's then discuss.
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Lol

You know what an Uncle Tom is right?

Another fun fact.

The Pearl Inccident/The DC riot of 1848 inspired Harriet Beacher Stowe to write Uncle Tom's Cabin which inspired the freeing of slaves and thus the Civil War. Have you read it? You should.
 
Chris Craig said:
Lol

You know what an Uncle Tom is right?

Another fun fact.

The Pearl Inccident/The DC riot of 1848 inspired Harriet Beacher Stowe to write Uncle Tom's Cabin which inspired the freeing of slaves and thus the Civil War. Have you read it? You should.
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I'm sure the title is regarding the epithet, and abuses of it today. There were a number of such quotes (along with "house slaves") in the documentary.
 
Owens and Elder's sole claim to fame is being Trumpers. They aren't accomplished people. They aren't scientists, historians, writers, musicians. They certainly were never activists. Never involved in any struggle. Being Trumpists gives cover to white supremacy. It's not conservative values, it's grift.
 
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