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Rastapopoulos said:
Send me an actual link to a place I can buy it if it exists. If it's an actual legitimate publisher, I'll consider it. You're trying to get out of reading anything, aren't you? Maybe because you don't really give a shit, you're happy eating your Fox News pablum?
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You're oh so quick with assumptions.

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ABM said:
Wrong. Again. I've read Dr. Michael Brown's writings and listen regularly to his podcasts. Being boorish comes naturally to you I can see.
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no..being boorish is hiding behind literature and not expressing your views on the topic unless someone reads your choice of material.....speak for yourself for a change...you have yet to do that concerning this topic but you have cut and pasted the words of others....walk the walk. What comes naturally to me is speaking my own mind on these topics...as I said....if we met at a bar and talked about this, chances are you wouldn't be carrying your library around to show me highlighted passages you agree with...we'd just talk about racial equality and concerns ...choices ...no need to fear the teaching of "theory" at all unless you fear it will mess with what comes naturally to you...white privilege. It's time to listen to what our african american fellow citizens have to say about racial profiling...not what white folk don't want to hear about...the book cover you pasted was not Michael Brown,..it was DM Schwarz ..there's a clue for you....you might want to know who wrote the book.
 
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riverman said:
no..being boorish is hiding behind literature and not expressing your views on the topic unless someone reads your choice of material.....speak for yourself for a change...you have yet to do that concerning this topic but you have cut and pasted the words of others....walk the walk. What comes naturally to me is speaking my own mind on these topics...as I said....if we met at a bar and talked about this, chances are you wouldn't be carrying your library around to show me highlighted passages you agree with...we'd just talk about racial equality and concerns ...choices ...no need to fear the teaching of "theory" at all unless you fear it will mess with what comes naturally to you...white privilege.
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What I've told you before is that I'm MUCH more interested in working towards meaningful solutions, as opposed to the bark-bark mentalities of white man has kept black man down all these centuries and needs to repent and make amends et al. I have plenty of black friends who feel the same, but you'd never believe me, nor even care, so I'm not going to bother splainin' it to ya.
 
ABM said:
What I've told you before is that I'm MUCH more interested in working towards meaningful solutions, as opposed to the bark-bark mentalities of white man has kept black man down all these centuries and needs to repent and make amends et al. I have plenty of black friends who feel the same, but you'd never believe me, nor even care, so I'm not going to bother splainin' it to ya.
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being interested in meaningful solutions isn't expressing meaningful solutions and I really don't need for you to explain racial profiling or civil rights to me at all....you're right ....I've read enough of your posts on BLM and conservative fears to not believe a lot of what you promoting..I tend to be more interested in actual formed ideas about topics and don't give a lot of credence to your cutting and pasting media .
 
ABM said:
You're oh so quick with assumptions.
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Still not committing to reading anything, huh. Maybe you're dyslexic? If so, I apologize for assuming you could read easily. That was one of my quick assumptions.

And I think you meant to post a picture, but it's invisible.
 
ABM said:
What I've told you before is that I'm MUCH more interested in working towards meaningful solutions, as opposed to the bark-bark mentalities of white man has kept black man down all these centuries and needs to repent and make amends et al.
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Hey, the good news is, nobody's really saying that! I can't imagine where you might've got that mistaken impression!
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You can't have meaningful solutions unless you understand the problem.

Sure there are a small number of very rich Black people but on the whole Black Americans are at the bottom in jobs, housing, health care, etc. Black women, even highly educated and well off, are far more likely to die in childbirth than white women, something so called right to life ignores. Either Black people are inherently inferior or this inequality is caused by social factors. Including laws and practices in effect since colonial times.

Did you know reference to white people didn't exist before the US wrote it into law? Europeans called themselves French, German, Swedish, or whatever, not white.

Pretending that didn't happen and calling a Hitler lover an authority is not a way to meaningful solution. Neither is banning books.
 
riverman said:
being interested in meaningful solutions isn't expressing meaningful solutions and I really don't need for you to explain racial profiling or civil rights to me at all....you're right ....I've read enough of your posts on BLM and conservative fears to not believe a lot of what you promoting..I tend to be more interested in actual formed ideas about topics and don't give a lot of credence to your cutting and pasting media .
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Good, you go with that, then. You seem to chime-in on my conversations with others, though, so a place to start with you might be to just let all that go. Otherwise, we just end up here again.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Hey, the good news is, nobody's really saying that! I can't imagine where you might've got that mistaken impression!
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I quit watching all tv news last year.
 
crandc said:
You can't have meaningful solutions unless you understand the problem.

Sure there are a small number of very rich Black people but on the whole Black Americans are at the bottom in jobs, housing, health care, etc. Black women, even highly educated and well off, are far more likely to die in childbirth than white women, something so called right to life ignores. Either Black people are inherently inferior or this inequality is caused by social factors. Including laws and practices in effect since colonial times.
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Got it. See my reference to the Woodson Center. I love it.

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ABM said:
Good, you go with that, then. You seem to chime-in on my conversations with others, though, so a place to start with you might be to just let all that go. Otherwise, we just end up here again.
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This is a public forum but you can DM any member and carry on a private conversation...in case you didn't understand how this works...I've been here for many many years as well so there's more than a good chance I'll just end up here again....
 
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riverman said:
This is a public forum but you can DM any member and carry on a private conversation...in case you didn't understand how this works...I've been here for many many years as well so there's more than a good chance I'll just end up here again....
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Well, you just keep goin' with that, then.
 
ABM said:
Well, you just keep goin' with that, then.
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not asking permission ...something you seem to like to give out without being asked for.....I think any theory about racial social issues should be taught and discussed in our education system as long as it's not hate speech...see how that works?
 
ABM said:
Should I somehow be concerned?
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What your implicit admission again reveals is that the only black people whose view you "admire" are the ones you've already been told are on your side. So you don't admire THEIR views, you admire your own prejudices being reflected back at you.
 
riverman said:
not asking permission ...something you seem to like to give out without being asked for.....I think any theory about racial social issues should be taught and discussed in our education system as long as it's not hate speech...see how that works?
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I'm fine with that, so long as it's not presented in a way that somehow makes white man the boogeyman today. As I previously mentioned, it's a hate issue, and very isolated at that. Conversely, teaching minority kids empowerment and unity - such that the Woodson Center strives to do - is completely productive, and deserves more attention and resources.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
What your implicit admission again reveals is that the only black people whose view you "admire" are the ones you've already been told are on your side. So you don't admire THEIR views, you admire your own prejudices being reflected back at you.
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Bullcrap.
 
crandc said:
Pretending that didn't happen and calling a Hitler lover an authority is not a way to meaningful solution. Neither is banning books.
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I provided clear responses from Owens as to how she was taken out of context, coupled with her views on Hitler. Why do you continue to disregard this?
 
There has been a slow and consistent whitewashing of history in the US. That's normal, the winner does write the history. Now just because it's normal doesn't mean it's right.

I know that there are some current and former members of the forum who believe that the Civil War was about States Rights and had absolutely nothing to do with slavery. And ending slavery was part of changing a real war by the north into an economic war against our southern states. Instead of the north buying the slaves freedoms we just forced the poor southern states to give them away.

Now you can google and find tons of articles and people who believe this. But it doesn't mean it's right.

Does correcting this interpretation of history mean we're suddenly favoring black people and making whites look bad or are we really just trying to teach kids what really happened?
 
Here's a critical race debate...how the hell do white congress members and senators from the republican party explain wearing a yellow star of David the Nazi's passed around in WWII to protest a public safety mask mandate? Should our children be exposed to this behavior or is it like white people wearing blackface as entertainers?
 
Taiwan under Lee Tung Huei...the first Taiwanese president not from Chiang Kai Shek's mainland Chinese KMT army made schools write corrected history books after the old ones had whitewashed the slaughter of aboriginal leaders of 18 tribes and the leaders of the Taiwanese locals who'd been there hundreds of years...then stole their land and made them second class citizens....that's been corrected...Taiwanese children now know what really happened .....nobody said...oh how dare they insult the great General Chiang! The KMT enlisted several local politcians with bribes to look inclusive but they were all on the take.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
There has been a slow and consistent whitewashing of history in the US. That's normal, the winner does write the history. Now just because it's normal doesn't mean it's right.

I know that there are some current and former members of the forum who believe that the Civil War was about States Rights and had absolutely nothing to do with slavery. And ending slavery was part of changing a real war by the north into an economic war against our southern states. Instead of the north buying the slaves freedoms we just forced the poor southern states to give them away.

Now you can google and find tons of articles and people who believe this. But it doesn't mean it's right.

Does correcting this interpretation of history mean we're suddenly favoring black people and making whites look bad or are we really just trying to teach kids what really happened?
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It depends on how it’s communicated.
 
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tlongII said:
Communication is affected by how it is delivered.
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You mean like with finger puppets? A Dr Suess special? It's the Civil War, lol. Not sure how you want to deliver that.
 
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