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Philly would probably want Kyrie but Simmons isn’t a fit with Harden and the nets. How about CJ and picks to Brooklyn, kyrie to Philly, and Ben to Portland. Idk. Btw Vanterpool is in Brooklyn and CJ lives in NY in the offseason. Means nothing just saying
 
simmons would be a good fit with harden and the brooklyn

harden himself said he wanted to play more off the ball in brooklyn, but it turned out that kyrie wanted the same thing lol, so harden remained main playmaker (hes better playmaker than kyrie of course), but simmons would allow harden to play more of the ball and simmons could drive to the basket with the spacing brooklyn has and obviously, simmons would improve their rebounding and defense
 
OKC is doing sga a major disservice by not dealing him. Guy could be a superstar.
 
Maybe it’ll be a three team training involving the Lakers, Blazers and 76ers. Lakers could use a player like CJ. Might the 76ers consider Russell Westbrook and the Blazers will get Ben Simmons? I know more players would have to be involved.
 
I just dont see it happening. Morey is too headstrong to trade us ben for a package around CJ. I mean, this is a dude who is reportedly ready to waste a year of embiids prime for pride.

We need to focus elsewhere.
You're not going to force the deal anyway. Let them know what you can offer and if he comes close you talk about it more. If not you move on.

No reason to close off communication...
 
Maybe it’ll be a three team training involving the Lakers, Blazers and 76ers. Lakers could use a player like CJ. Might the 76ers consider Russell Westbrook and the Blazers will get Ben Simmons? I know more players would have to be involved.
Russ is like an old, decrepit, foot shorter version of Ben who unlike been is not afraid due to his lack of a shot to jack up a shot at any time. So they get away from what annoyed them about Ben (that he refused to shoot because he was bad at it) but even though Russ might have stat lines like Ben with the assists and the rebounding and the scoring around the same mark... Russ won't defend his position even though I think he's capable of it, let alone defend every other position on the floor.

Russ is a big name so maybe that would be attractive to a jackass like Morey and if it was, good for us but this would be terrible for the Sixers and maybe that's what they deserve.
 
You're not going to force the deal anyway. Let them know what you can offer and if he comes close you talk about it more. If not you move on.

No reason to close off communication...
Completely agree with this. Seems like Morey is the one who closes off communication in the past, though.
 
If Dame had the power to get him fired, what makes you think Neil had the power to trade Dame? Logically this makes absolutely zero sense.
I don't think Neil had the power to trade Dame. I think he and Morey were trying to set up a series of events hoping it became an appealing option to Jody, or that Dame became upset enough that he asked out.

That could have gotten Neil another 5 years to rebuild the team.
 
I don't think Neil had the power to trade Dame. I think he and Morey were trying to set up a series of events hoping it became an appealing option to Jody, or that Dame became upset enough that he asked out.

That could have gotten Neil another 5 years to rebuild the team.

I don’t have the highest regard for Jody, but I’m pretty sure between her and the Vulcans, if Dame asked out the first thing following that would be Olshey getting fired.

Pretty much the only way for that to be appealing would be for them to say, “Yup, Olshey sucked at his job so now we either have to trade Dame for assets or wait for him to demand a trade because Olshey sucked so much.”

Either way it would immediately place the blame square on Olshey.

No way Olshey would’ve survived.
 
Do you consider Bradley Beal a top 25 player? Would Morey consider him top 25? I think he's kind of around CJ's level, but I think the broader perception is that he's significantly better.

That might be one guy around the level that would get Morey to take notice. Personally, I think Morey's going to have to accept a lot less than he's been looking for for Simmons.
 
Do you consider Bradley Beal a top 25 player? Would Morey consider him top 25? I think he's kind of around CJ's level, but I think the broader perception is that he's significantly better.

That might be one guy around the level that would get Morey to take notice. Personally, I think Morey's going to have to accept a lot less than he's been looking for for Simmons.

If morey can get Beal hes absolutely doing that
 
that’s all it took for you to bail? LOL I should’ve thought of that earlier
Straw that finally broke the camel's back. Still would be happy with him buy not gonna be disappointed if he goes elsewhere. Dude is such a hassle and we have enough drama as is
 
What are the odds Morey just used Woj to get teams to up their offers and there really isn’t any momentum towards a deal?
 
How horrible defensively is Tobias
I’m almost leaning towards that being a better fit than Simmons

Dame Norm Tobias Nance Nurk
 
How horrible defensively is Tobias
I’m almost leaning towards that being a better fit than Simmons

Dame Norm Tobias Nance Nurk
Tobias is worse than CJ and has a slightly worse contract. The only appeal on paper with replacing him for CJ is height. But his lack of denfense makes it a waste.
 
How horrible defensively is Tobias
I’m almost leaning towards that being a better fit than Simmons

Dame Norm Tobias Nance Nurk
His defense isn't good. I believe basically CJ level, but probably coming from a position where you'd like more. He's also not a SF. Has played exclusively at the 4 for the past 5 or so years
 
His defense isn't good. I believe basically CJ level, but probably coming from a position where you'd like more. He's also not a SF. Has played exclusively at the 4 for the past 5 or so years
Yeah that was actually the big reason I didn’t like the lineup. I like him more at the 4 but Dame Norm Nas Harris Nurk keeps with the undersized theme.
Anyway, I’ve been convinced. No Harris

being terrible defensively at SF/PF really isn’t an option imo lol
 
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Tobias Harris is a little better player than CJ, and probably a better fit. But, he makes 5M/year more than CJ does and that leaves Portland in the same boat: Dame without an all-star talent to run with and 5 million less in flexibility.
 

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