OT Sinclair Media and KATU - This is extremely dangerous to our democracy

[theprunetang]

It's a propaganda machine...

It's sick.

 

[dviss1]

Your generation taught the millennials. Any lack of education and/or intellectual laziness is a byproduct of your generation's failure to impart wisdom. Your generation also ran the economy into the ground and destroyed the country..... which is why you guys can't retire and are still occupying the best jobs.

Ouch.

Though it wasn't the baby boomers who raised the millenials. It was generation X. My generation.

 

[MarAzul]

So your ok with one corporation owning all the news stations?

umm, this sure isn't a new thing. Hell, Gene Autry oned several TV stations and lot of radio station here on the West Coast.
Including KEX in Portland and during the 1st years of the Blazers when that station served as the flagship of Blazer Broacasting.

 

[MarAzul]

Yet another reason we need to find any way possible to rid the White House of that evil madman ASAP.

You know Lanny. That sounds so fucking evil. Elections is the way we do it.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

umm, this sure isn't a new thing. Hell, Gene Autry oned several TV stations and lot of radio station here on the West Coast.
Including KEX in Portland and during the 1st years of the Blazers when that station served as the flagship of Blazer Broacasting.

Finally a real Trigger warning.

 

[BonesJones]

@SlyPokerDog Isn't KATU that the team that got lippy during last year's 3-on-3 tournament?

These guys are going to get stomped this year.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Whew, glad that's settled.

 

[CupWizier]

It's a propaganda machine...

It's the Stepford News. {For you kiddos, you might want to look up Stepford Wives)

 

[CupWizier]

umm, this sure isn't a new thing. Hell, Gene Autry oned several TV stations and lot of radio station here on the West Coast.
Including KEX in Portland and during the 1st years of the Blazers when that station served as the flagship of Blazer Broacasting.

Yeah, cause things were so much the same back then as they are today. You still in the cowboy era marzy? Waiting for the singing cowboy? lol

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Your generation taught the millennials. Any lack of education and/or intellectual laziness is a byproduct of your generation's failure to impart wisdom. Your generation also ran the economy into the ground and destroyed the country..... which is why you guys can't retire and are still occupying the best jobs.

That’s about as relevant as me (or anyone else) saying that maybe the problem is that the millenials are just simply shitty listeners.....Care to try again?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I'm glad you guys are catching up to where I've been since Trump got elected.

It's sad. I literally watch the morning news have local chefs on as a form of advertisement and then hear the anchors talk shit about Trump and then go on to TMZ level celebrity babble. It's really pathetic but that's where we are.

From what I've read the last few years all the major news outlets stage shots. I can't believe people accept it as a standard practice.

If you fake some of the news how can I trust any of it?

I didn't realize how much local news is copy and paste nationwide until I started this video last night. I couldn't stand it and turned it off.

I don't think the still is even in the video. I didn't watch it all. The first part is the same shit Denny linked. After that it shows multiple local news channels doing the same pre written fluff pieces. That isn't even a big deal but I didn't realize how much they do it nationwide.

The local news is like fastfood.

 

[Natebishop3]

Ouch.

Though it wasn't the baby boomers who raised the millenials. It was generation X. My generation.

Well, that's part of the problem. Nobody seems to know what a millennial is.

I have seen varying age ranges, but it's anywhere from kids born in the early 80s to kids born in the early 2000s.

My parents are boomers. Boomers are anyone born 1946 – 1964. So boomers definitely raised a huge chunk of the millennials. Gen X probably caught the very tail of the millennial range.

 

[Natebishop3]

That’s about as relevant as me (or anyone else) saying that maybe the problem is that the millenials are just simply shitty listeners.....Care to try again?

Fine. Baby boomers were the ones at the helm when public schools went directly into the toilet.

Education has become entirely about standardized testing and working the numbers. Teachers have lamented the fact that they can't develop their own curriculum and are forced to only teach the curriculum that focuses on improved testing scores. Class sizes have grown and grown. I left high school and finished my education at a community college where the classes were smaller and much much better. I also got college credit so I was able to double dip.

Funny enough, I'm seeing college education go into the toilet with boomers at the helm. Huge classes, lots of building to increase room for more students, but nothing done to add more teachers or improve the overall education. I was in required classes that were so full that there were kids sitting in the aisles. It's certainly not my generation in charge of this shit.

 

[CupWizier]

Well, that's part of the problem. Nobody seems to know what a millennial is.

I have seen varying age ranges, but it's anywhere from kids born in the early 80s to kids born in the early 2000s.

My parents are boomers. Boomers are anyone born 1946 – 1964. So boomers definitely raised a huge chunk of the millennials. Gen X probably caught the very tail of the millennial range.

I'm a baby boomer and my kids are 42.33 and 31 years old. Blaming a generation is extremely foolish anyway.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm a baby boomer and my kids are 42.33 and 31 years old. Blaming a generation is extremely foolish anyway.

So who would you charge with educating your children? Who were the administrators? Who were the teachers? Who was in congress during most of the millennial's formative years?

If someone owns a greenhouse, and their plants keep dying, who is to blame? The person who is in charge of watering the plants? The person in charge making sure the environment in the greenhouse is conducive to growth? Or do you just blame the plants for being stupid and not growing on their own?

 

[CupWizier]

So who would you charge with educating your children? Who were the administrators? Who were the teachers? Who was in congress during most of the millennial's formative years?

If someone owns a greenhouse, and their plants keep dying, who is to blame? The person who is in charge of watering the plants? The person in charge making sure the environment in the greenhouse is conducive to growth? Or do you just blame the plants for being stupid and not growing on their own?

My kids and many of their classmates in which I was honored to coach many of them in various sports have grown up just fine and are not only intelligent people but also very well rounded. What age group do you fall under?

 

[Natebishop3]

My kids and many of their classmates in which I was honored to coach many of them in various sports have grown up just fine and are not only intelligent people but also very well rounded. What age group do you fall under?

I was originally considered a millennial, but apparently I'm too old for that as they created a new generation for a small window of years called Xennials.

I don't see anything wrong with Millennials. I'm merely trying to show people who like to bash on Millennials that they are a product of an environment that was created for them. They didn't raise themselves.

 

[CupWizier]

I was originally considered a millennial, but apparently I'm too old for that as they created a new generation for a small window of years called Xennials.

I don't see anything wrong with Millennials. I'm merely trying to show people who like to bash on Millennials that they are a product of an environment that was created for them. They didn't raise themselves.

I think it's pretty stupid to blame any generation as there are plenty of good from all generations

 

[MarAzul]

Racism is also why the world is run by people your age and older

You still in the cowboy era marzy? Waiting for the singing cowboy? lol

Now here we have the difference between and ignorant post, and a post by *edited*

 

[CupWizier]

Now here we have the difference between and ignorant post, and a post by *edited*.

"and ignorant ass"?

 

[julius]

Now here we have the difference between and ignorant post, and a post by an ingnorant ass.

Actually my post was mocking an ignorant post. Learn the game, then post!

 

[dviss1]

Well, that's part of the problem. Nobody seems to know what a millennial is.

I have seen varying age ranges, but it's anywhere from kids born in the early 80s to kids born in the early 2000s.

My parents are boomers. Boomers are anyone born 1946 – 1964. So boomers definitely raised a huge chunk of the millennials. Gen X probably caught the very tail of the millennial range.

No 80s kids aren't millennials. You have to at least be born in the 90s. My nephew is a millennial, my son isn't.

 

[Natebishop3]

No 80s kids aren't millennials. You have to at least be born in the 90s. My nephew is a millennial, my son isn't.

See! This is what I'm talking about. This is incorrect. Every single definition of "millennial" includes kids born in the 80s.

In order to keep the Millennial generation analytically meaningful, and to begin looking at what might be unique about the next cohort, Pew Research Center will use 1996 as the last birth year for Millennials for our future work. Anyone born between 1981 and 1996 (ages 22-37 in 2018) will be considered a Millennial, and anyone born from 1997 onward will be part of a new generation.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...e-millennials-end-and-post-millennials-begin/

Census bureau results provide that that the millennial generation is the generation of children born between 1982 and 2002, some 81 million children who have taken over K-12, have already entered college and the workforce. This generation will replace the Baby-boomers as they retire. Other sources suggest that the cutoff date for millennial is 2000.

https://thecollegeinvestor.com/19793/millennial-age-range/

One of the most prominent think tanks in the US has officially determined what makes a millennial a millennial.

Or at least, they have determined the age range that forms the generation, which has intrigued researchers but defied definition for years.

Pew Research Centre announced this week that they would be applying the term “millennial” only to those people born between 1981 and 1996. That means all millennials – at least according to Pew – will be between the ages of 22 and 36 in 2018.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...cutoff-date-pew-research-center-a8235731.html

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Fine. Baby boomers were the ones at the helm when public schools went directly into the toilet.

Education has become entirely about standardized testing and working the numbers. Teachers have lamented the fact that they can't develop their own curriculum and are forced to only teach the curriculum that focuses on improved testing scores. Class sizes have grown and grown. I left high school and finished my education at a community college where the classes were smaller and much much better. I also got college credit so I was able to double dip.

Funny enough, I'm seeing college education go into the toilet with boomers at the helm. Huge classes, lots of building to increase room for more students, but nothing done to add more teachers or improve the overall education. I was in required classes that were so full that there were kids sitting in the aisles. It's certainly not my generation in charge of this shit.

I agree completely with a good number of your points, but I feel that the largest amount of the responsibility for academic success lies with the parents and the kids. You can lead a horse to water but........I have 2 sons born 3 years apart. Both went to the same public schools (all of which had resources available that were utterly beyond my Catholic school experience and imagination). One son took it upon himself to make the most out of his education. The other son (very bright kid) took it upon himself to piss his opportunities away. My wife (especially.....and with a degree in education) and I did our best, but in the end each kid made a choice. My parents sent my siblings and I to private schools. My siblings made the most of it. I pissed it away. When I finally woke up, I had one helluva lot of ground to make up. But I put in the time and effort (community colleges ARE the best bang for the educational buck) because I knew the only person who owed me a living was me. I see far too many examples of younger people (“Millenials” has almost become a generic term for younger folks in general) who have pissed away their opportunities and find it easier to blame their schools and older generations for their own shortcomings. They don’t want to have to try any harder than they wanted to try in their school years. They want “quality of life[style]” without the trade offs or putting in the work. So it’s easier to point the finger elsewhere when they can’t achieve that. The only real difference I personally see between the younger folks who are succeeding/surviving and those who are floundering is effort, sacrifice and the willingness to accept personal responsibility. I’ll be extremely curious as to how the educational system evolves when it is your “generation in charge of this shit.”

 

[dviss1]

See! This is what I'm talking about. This is incorrect. Every single definition of "millennial" includes kids born in the 80s.



http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...e-millennials-end-and-post-millennials-begin/



https://thecollegeinvestor.com/19793/millennial-age-range/



https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...cutoff-date-pew-research-center-a8235731.html

Well, that's fine I guess. It makes my statement true that my son is not.

 

[Natebishop3]

I agree completely with a good number of your points, but I feel that the largest amount of the responsibility for academic success lies with the parents and the kids. You can lead a horse to water but........I have 2 sons born 3 years apart. Both went to the same public schools (all of which had resources available that were utterly beyond my Catholic school experience and imagination). One son took it upon himself to make the most out of his education. The other son (very bright kid) took it upon himself to piss his opportunities away. My wife (especially.....and with a degree in education) and I did our best, but in the end each kid made a choice. My parents sent my siblings and I to private schools. My siblings made the most of it. I pissed it away. When I finally woke up, I had one helluva lot of ground to make up. But I put in the time and effort (community colleges ARE the best bang for the educational buck) because I knew the only person who owed me a living was me. I see far too many examples of younger people (“Millenials” has almost become a generic term for younger folks in general) who have pissed away their opportunities and find it easier to blame their schools and older generations for their own shortcomings. They don’t want to have to try any harder than they wanted to try in their school years. They want “quality of life[style]” without the trade offs or putting in the work. So it’s easier to point the finger elsewhere when they can’t achieve that. The only real difference I personally see between the younger folks who are succeeding/surviving and those who are floundering is effort, sacrifice and the willingness to accept personal responsibility. I’ll be extremely curious as to how the educational system evolves when it is your “generation in charge of this shit.”

While I agree with you that it's definitely something that you can change with hard work, I also think the world has changed drastically in the past 30 years.

It's extremely difficult for families to live on one income. My family grew up with one income comfortably. That's a massive difference for the millennials.

Buying a home is a huge difference. The cost of homes have increased exponentially. My wife and I were extremely lucky to get the home that we did, and her parents helped us out with the down payment.

Student loans are another huge difference. People used to be able to work their way through college, but the cost of tuition has gone up a ton since even I was in college. There is an entire generation of kids who have a ton of student debt right now, and that affects everything else. The ability to buy a home. The ability to live off one income. Etc

A bachelors degree isn't worth what it used to be. People are being paid less than they should be after leaving college. People need jobs and companies are extremely stingy. They're unwilling to give pay increases so people have to leave and go somewhere else to get paid fairly. I'm getting paid about $10k less than I should be. My wife is getting paid about $10k less than she should be, so collectively we're making about $20k less than we should be. That's based on market value for the work that we do. To get that money I would have to leave my job.

We live in a very different world these days. Very different from when our parents were our age. Hard work can only get you so far.

 

[dviss1]

I agree completely with a good number of your points, but I feel that the largest amount of the responsibility for academic success lies with the parents and the kids. You can lead a horse to water but........I have 2 sons born 3 years apart. Both went to the same public schools (all of which had resources available that were utterly beyond my Catholic school experience and imagination). One son took it upon himself to make the most out of his education. The other son (very bright kid) took it upon himself to piss his opportunities away. My wife (especially.....and with a degree in education) and I did our best, but in the end each kid made a choice. My parents sent my siblings and I to private schools. My siblings made the most of it. I pissed it away. When I finally woke up, I had one helluva lot of ground to make up. But I put in the time and effort (community colleges ARE the best bang for the educational buck) because I knew the only person who owed me a living was me. I see far too many examples of younger people (“Millenials” has almost become a generic term for younger folks in general) who have pissed away their opportunities and find it easier to blame their schools and older generations for their own shortcomings. They don’t want to have to try any harder than they wanted to try in their school years. They want “quality of life[style]” without the trade offs or putting in the work. So it’s easier to point the finger elsewhere when they can’t achieve that. The only real difference I personally see between the younger folks who are succeeding/surviving and those who are floundering is effort, sacrifice and the willingness to accept personal responsibility. I’ll be extremely curious as to how the educational system evolves when it is your “generation in charge of this shit.”

A lot of this is true. Where I part ways with is not mentioning how we fund our schools. I was going to Cleveland HS when a bunch of boomers decided they wanted lower property taxes and passed measure 5.

Now, remind me why we use this idiotic way (property taxes) to fund our schools.... Nvm... The boomers set it up that way... Then when it didn't suit them, they pulled the rug out from under us.

 

[SportsAndWhine]

Ouch.

Though it wasn't the baby boomers who raised the millenials. It was generation X. My generation.

Maybe older Gen X, but millenials are 25-35 right now, and Gen X is 40-50... it's younger boomers who raised the millenials.

 

[barfo]

A lot of this is true. Where I part ways with is not mentioning how we fund our schools. I was going to Cleveland HS when a bunch of boomers decided they wanted lower property taxes and passed measure 5.

Now, remind me why we use this idiotic way (property taxes) to fund our schools.... Nvm... The boomers set it up that way... Then when it didn't suit them, they pulled the rug out from under us.

I'm not sure the boomers deserve the blame for this (I certainly don't, since I wasn't living in oregon at the time). But if my math is right the oldest boomer was 44 in 1990. People who voted for Measure 5, were (I am asserting without looking it up, please correct me if I'm wrong) skewed significantly towards the elderly. I blame the 'greatest generation', not the boomers, for measure 5.

barfo

 

[dviss1]

I'm not sure the boomers deserve the blame for this (I certainly don't, since I wasn't living in oregon at the time). But if my math is right the oldest boomer was 44 in 1990. People who voted for Measure 5, were (I am asserting without looking it up, please correct me if I'm wrong) skewed significantly towards the elderly. I blame the 'greatest generation', not the boomers, for measure 5.

barfo

Fair enough. Just like people refer to most young folk as millenials, I'd say the same thing applies to boomers.

But if you didn't think that it was WAY easier to own a home in Portland then I'd say you'd be mistaken. I'd wager to say lots of boomers voted for it too. They owned homes too and majority of them are opposed to taxes.