So If Memphis takes Rubio, is Conley available again?

[Nikolokolus]

Look, I'm viewed as a charter member of the Blake Hate Club, but I see almost identical statistics here.
One is viewed as a disappointing, yet up-and-coming PG with some potential who just hasn't broken out yet. (IIRC he's 21)
One just had by almost all accounts a career year, and is 29 with 6 years experience in the league.

On the surface you might think they have identical stats, but Conley post-Ivaroni blew up, going for 16/6 to close out the year. But If you want to see the real difference you have to dig a little deeper.

Mike Conley advanced stats
Shot breakdown:
Jumpers: 68% EFG% .495 ASTD: 49%
Close: 32% EFG% .509 ASTD: 16%

Draw Foul Rate: 9.1%
3PT/2PT ratio 29% of total FGAs were 3s

Steve Blake advanced stats
Shot Breakdown:
Jumpers: 88% EFG% .541 ASTD: 71%
Close: 12% EFG% .500 ASTD: 38%

Draw Foul Rate: 2.3%
3PT/2PT ratio: 51% of FGAs were 3s

So looking at the two players my question to you is, which one looks like a point guard and which one looks like a 3 point set shot specialist ie. a shooting guard you bring in off the bench?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

On the surface you might think they have identical stats, but Conley post-Ivaroni blew up, going for 16/6 to close out the year. But If you want to see the real difference you have to dig a little deeper.

Mike Conley advanced stats
Shot breakdown:
Jumpers: 68% EFG% .495 ASTD: 49%
Close: 32% EFG% .509 ASTD: 16%

Draw Foul Rate: 9.1%
3PT/2PT ratio 29% of total FGAs were 3s

Steve Blake advanced stats
Shot Breakdown:
Jumpers: 88% EFG% .541 ASTD: 71%
Close: 12% EFG% .500 ASTD: 38%

Draw Foul Rate: 2.3%
3PT/2PT ratio: 51% of FGAs were 3s

So looking at the two players my question to you is, which one looks like a point guard and which one looks like a 3 point set shot specialist ie. a shooting guard you bring in off the bench?

I could be wrong, but I think Brian's main point was that if Blake's "career year" is roughly equal to a mediocre season from an allegedly "disappointing" soph, then that's a pretty big indictment of Blake's value. I believe the two of you are pretty much on the same page (as am I).

 

[Mediocre Man]

I could be wrong, but I think Brian's main point was that if Blake's "career year" is roughly equal to a mediocre season from an allegedly "disappointing" soph, then that's a pretty big indictment of Blake's value. I believe the two of you are pretty much on the same page (as am I).

That's what I read too. However, myabe Nic's post will show some of the Blake supporters what some of us others see. And again, if you go post Iavaroni the stats aren't even close. Steve Blake should be our Steve Kerr clone. Realiable, competent, steady player off the bench that shouldn't lose you many games.

 

[Uther TheGardener]

aye lets see if we can swing for the fences!

 

[Nikolokolus]

I could be wrong, but I think Brian's main point was that if Blake's "career year" is roughly equal to a mediocre season from an allegedly "disappointing" soph, then that's a pretty big indictment of Blake's value. I believe the two of you are pretty much on the same page (as am I).

That's what I read too. However, myabe Nic's post will show some of the Blake supporters what some of us others see. And again, if you go post Iavaroni the stats aren't even close. Steve Blake should be our Steve Kerr clone. Realiable, competent, steady player off the bench that shouldn't lose you many games.

Whoops, I think you guys are right. I think I focused too much on the "I'm in the Blake hate club, but ..." I misunderstood it to mean that Conley would be a lateral move.

EDIT: Ah I see what happened. I should have been responding to Ebott, I didn't catch that it was BrianFromWa's reply to a quote.

 

[DaRizzle]

While Oklahoma City would obviously be extremely interested in the prospect of acquiring the top pick and drafting local product Blake Griffin, there is one team standing in their way – the Memphis Grizzlies, who own the #2 pick. From what people around the league are saying, Rubio’s camp may already be sending out feelers indicating that he’s not interested in the least bit in playing in Memphis.

“Rubio doesn’t want to go to Memphis, and he especially does not want to pay money out of his own pocket with that huge buyout for the honor of doing so. Fegan [Rubio’s agent] wants him in L.A., and if he can’t have him there, he wants him in Sacramento. Definitely not Oklahoma City. ..“

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2009/05/21/rubio-doesnt-want-memphis/

 

[La Bomba]

Hiesley and Wallace met with Rubio and his family yesterday. All that stuff that his agent is saying is BS. I'll believe it when it comes out of Rubio's mouth.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

If Mike Conley does become available, I'd be real interested in adding him to the team. And it would take more than a deal centered around Sergio and Outlaw. Bayless, but more likely Rudy would need to be included or we would need to include a 3rd team to bring them a 4. Josh Smith?.