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Denny Crane said:
Stotts starts Vonleh. This way Noah gets to bang with opponents' starters instead of against their 2nd units.

It seems to me he's both developing the guy who needs it the most as well as trying to win.

The guys on the end of the bench? They have to show in practice they deserve to be in the NBA.
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this time of yr there in not enough practice time to really "show" anything, just gotta throw em in once in a while
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Disclaimer--this post will be TL;DR.

The sentiment of frustration about Stotts going all out to try to win every game has nothing to do (for most people) with draft position. It has to do with bringing out secondary players ability to contribute meaningfully.

Imagine if we spent five games--just five--primarily running offensive sets designed to get shots for Leonard, Vonleh, Harkless, and Plumlee. If CJ and Dame took a backseat for those five games and sought primarily to use their playmaking abilities to get secondary scorers hitting on all cylinders.

Would we lose all five games? Probably. But could it help break Meyers out of his slump? Maybe. Could Vonleh figure out how to be involved and engaged in the offense on a game to game basis? Theoretically. Could it bring Harkless back to the land of the living? Possibly. Could it cause defenses to pay more attention to Plumlee in the past, thereby opening up a little space for everyone else? Perhaps.

My concern, and the concern of many others, is that the potential growth and development of several players on the team may be being stunted by the apparent win-every-game mentality that leads to Dame and CJ taking half of the team's shots. I'd love to see Stotts encourage them defer more to the secondary and tertiary players to see who might actually step up in expanded roles, because that would likely be beneficial to the franchise in the long term.
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But he has given players chances and people like CJ and Crabbe have gotten more minutes because they've earned it. We generally run the offense through Vonleh at the start of games.
 
KingAlbertoJrSpeed said:
Hang in there. This is hardest part of our schedule. 19 of first 31 on the road. We'll get a win streak going again soon.
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Yes, and also I think it's a learning curve. We need to learn to win on the road, learn to win close games. It could take this team even another year until their in full stride
 
I'm sticking to my 34 win prediction.

But this team, even at their best, is extremely mediocre.

This frontcourt is killing us.
 
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Blazer4ever said:
Yes, and also I think it's a learning curve. We need to learn to win on the road, learn to win close games. It could take this team even another year until their in full stride
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The trouble with this team as currently constructed is that their "full stride" is probably 42 wins max . . . MAX! That might even get us to an 8th seed in the new weakened western conference and a monkey stomping by the Warriors next year. Well fuck that! And for those saying, "look at all of our cap space!" I say to you, what high end free agent would pick a shitty small market team in a year when almost every team is flush with cap room?

The only way this team will get significantly better and have a shot at deep playoff runs in future seasons is to hit a homerun in the draft and orchestrate some sort of impact trade(s).
 
We have a terrible team. And the worst part is they aren't quite terrible enough. We'll probably get the 6th or 7th pick in the draft which isn't going to net us a difference maker. We are screwed.
 
Nikolokolus said:
The trouble with this team as currently constructed is that their "full stride" is probably 42 wins max . . . MAX! That might even get us to an 8th seed in the new weakened western conference and a monkey stomping by the Warriors next year. Well fuck that! And for those saying, "look at all of our cap space!" I say to you, what high end free agent would pick a shitty small market team in a year when almost every team is flush with cap room?

The only way this team will get significantly better and have a shot at deep playoff runs in future seasons is to hit a homerun in the draft and orchestrate some sort of impact trade(s).
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There is no way this team could win 42 games. No way.
 
I predicted 32 and so far my breakdown has been 100% right.


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Nikolokolus said:
The trouble with this team as currently constructed is that their "full stride" is probably 42 wins max . . . MAX! That might even get us to an 8th seed in the new weakened western conference and a monkey stomping by the Warriors next year. Well fuck that! And for those saying, "look at all of our cap space!" I say to you, what high end free agent would pick a shitty small market team in a year when almost every team is flush with cap room?

The only way this team will get significantly better and have a shot at deep playoff runs in future seasons is to hit a homerun in the draft and orchestrate some sort of impact trade(s).
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The chance to play with Kyrie Irving, a young supporting cast, and cap space was enough of a draw for LeBron in Cleveland and also convinced Love to sign an extension there.

Cleveland has a population of 309,000. Portland has a population of 609,000.
 
They can still win 50% if they make some kind of run and I think if the team stays intact their worth at leasst 50% nexr year depending on how they use the cap-room
 
Denny Crane said:
The chance to play with Kyrie Irving, a young supporting cast, and cap space was enough of a draw for LeBron in Cleveland and also convinced Love to sign an extension there.

Cleveland has a population of 309,000. Portland has a population of 609,000.
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LeBron is from Akron. He went home.
 
Blazer4ever said:
They can still win 50% if they make some kind of run and I think if the team stays intact their worth at leasst 50% nexr year depending on how they use the cap-room
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If the Blazers win 50% they will be in a perfect position to draft Jack Squat.
 
CJ was drafted 10th. Lillard and Roy 6th.
Bobby Portis went one place higher than where we picked last year and if the Bulls hadn't taken him we wouldn't either. Tanking is lame, it's bad karma. We could somehow make the playoffs against all odds, get the 16th pick and draft the next Kobe. It's bullshit to wish on your own team to lose
 
Denny Crane said:
He left home for Miami Beach, and took less than MAX to do so.

Love isn't from Cleveland.
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I'd like to compare the amount of people who leave Cleveland to live in Portland to the people who leave Portland to live in Cleveland..I think it's really no contest..I've seen the rust belt and it's a dump
 
PtldPlatypus said:
The sentiment of frustration about Stotts going all out to try to win every game has nothing to do (for most people) with draft position. It has to do with bringing out secondary players ability to contribute meaningfully.
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Exactly! We KNOW Dame can score. We KNOW CJ can score. We don't need further proof of this, and them scoring to bulk of the team's points isn't going to lead us anywhere but the lottery (with this roster). We we need to do is develop new skills in our players, rather than just having them do what we know they can do. So far the only development I've seen is:

1 - Dame is attempting more high-risk passes.
2 - CJ is attempting to be a play-maker (sometimes).
3 - Aminu is attempting to handle the ball (and we should just cut our losses on this one - he's not going to develop into a good ball handler).

Aside from that - and the token minutes Vonleh is getting - there really isn't anything new that's being worked on with any of our players. And that's a shame, because the ONLY thing that matters this season is development.
 
blue9 said:
Aside from that - and the token minutes Vonleh is getting - there really isn't anything new that's being worked on with any of our players. And that's a shame, because the ONLY thing that matters this season is development.
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Not usually one to throw this around, but we don't know that. It takes a while for guys to actually show what they're working on in practices and warmups in real game time.
 
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