So what's next for the roster

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in
I mocked Denny for suggesting we trade for Joe Johnson.

If we sign Kanter for the max I will apologize.
 
take a flyer on mo Harkless?elliot Williams?{I know BGD right?)
 
I'm an Elliot Williams fan. Guy has stayed healthy for a stint in the D league and with the Jazz. He's a talented wing.
 
riverman said:
I'm an Elliot Williams fan. Guy has stayed healthy for a stint in the D league and with the Jazz. He's a talented wing.
Click to expand...
has been playing a lot at the point both in d league and philly and Utah definetly taller that dame or cj. added bonus reportedly loved portland
 
So, to be honest, I don't know much about Plumlee and Davis. Do they provide enough low post scoring threat to give CJ and Lillard space to make plays or shoot? If not, then hopefully we target another big. It seems like we need another wing too. This team is going to be so different than last year, it's crazy. It's like going from the dry chardonnay to the cab with a lot of body.
 
Wish I had more belief in Noah Vonleh. Have read a lot of stuff and watched video.... and I just don't see it.

Real scouts on Vonleh before the draft courtesy of Ryen Rusillo

Scout 1: Another young guy. Man, these guys are so young this year. Not a huge 4, but his measurements were great. The hand size and reach make me less worried about his height. Just a huge man, huge ass, and legs. Not a great athlete, doesn’t have that quick-twitch muscle, but his ass will create space. Reminds me, bodywise, of Elton Brand.

He may not have that Elton Brand mentality, though. Just his body type.

Good rebounder, not elite. Will have trouble with the bigger, athletic guys. His dribbling blew me away. He did some shit with the ball — right hand, left hand in tight spaces — that caught my attention.

I’m not sold on his potential as this great shooter. Don’t like his mechanics; his misses in a workout were horrible. I mean just bad misses. He shoots it better moving into a shot. His spacing shots and spot shots were broken. He’s better when rhythm is created for him. [I’m] just not completely sold he’ll be this shooter he’s billed as. Pick-and-pop? I don’t know.

I think he’s so thick he’ll score around the basket. He’s got a little left-shoulder hook shot.

His NBA team needs to let him dribble. Don’t think he’ll be a star. It’s not his personality. He’s a starter but has to be your third- or fourth-best player.

I like him — [I’m] not goo-goo-ga-ga over him. Work ethic is a question because he wasn’t in great shape when I saw him. How is that possible? June 26 is the biggest night of your life. He said he was hurt, which I get … but does that mean you can’t get on a bike? This is an audition. It’s not an overriding factor, but you consider it.

Like him as a kid, not sure what happened at Indiana. He didn’t get a lot of minutes, and I’m not sure he wanted to leave. Too good of a kid not to figure it out.

Scout 2: He’s the biggest riser of all the guys. He wins all the analytical shit, but if he works and keeps developing that shot he’s a stretch 4 for us.

Better ball skills than we saw at Indiana. At the Adidas Nations camp he showed these skills, so it’s not a total surprise. He’s also got more face-up game than you think. He needs his shot to get better. I saw him work out and he didn’t shoot it well, but you could see he was adjusting his mechanics. We were like, “What are you doing?”

I’ve heard the conditioning stuff; I don’t care. It’s June. He’ll be fine. I haven’t heard anything negative about the kid — great in interviews.

I’d take Randle. There is a difference in how these two kids have been packaged. Randle only needs to hit the 15-footer to be the guy we hope he can be. Vonleh needs to hit from further out to be the player he’s being billed as.

Russillo: No player benefited more from measurements at the combine than Vonleh. I don’t remember anyone talking about him going ahead of Julius Randle during the season, and I don’t think he should.

You always worry about a guy who shows more in workouts than he did while actually playing. Indiana was kind of a mess this year, and I didn’t love their guard play, but his rebounding numbers in the minutes he played were outstanding. Nine rebounds per game in 26.5 minutes. He turns it over more than you want, but if he really is the shooter some think he is, then we are talking about a special player. But he took only 41 jump shots this season.

I’ve heard conflicting reports about his conditioning. At 18 years old it’s not a big deal, but I just like Randle’s motor and competitiveness more.
Click to expand...
 
Sedatedfork said:
So, to be honest, I don't know much about Plumlee and Davis. Do they provide enough low post scoring threat to give CJ and Lillard space to make plays or shoot? If not, then hopefully we target another big. It seems like we need another wing too. This team is going to be so different than last year, it's crazy. It's like going from the dry chardonnay to the cab with a lot of body.
Click to expand...
Davis does nothing BUT work the low post. He's no Zach Randolph, but he's more than just a garbage man.
 
With young guys it's difficult to judge how good they'll become..remember Meyers Leonard hate for 2 plus years here?
 
That scouting report sounds pretty good to me. If he shoots well from outside, fine - that's not what I'm excited about, or want from my PF. I'm excited about the fact that he can dribble a basketball! That's something LMA was never any good at. Having a big who doesn't bobble the ball every time he puts it on the floor will make the game more enjoyable to watch. Combined with his "huge ass" and "left-shoulder hook shot", we might finally have a big who can score in the paint! And on the outside we have Leonard who can bomb away from 3, letting Vonleh own the paint. Leonard isn't too bad at dribbling, either! And is adept at passing the ball. There could be some really nice offense with Leonard pump-faking 3s, driving the lane, and dishing off to Vonleh for the dunk.
It's not going to happen right away, but I think Leonard/Vonleh can easily be as good or better than the LMA/Lopez combo. (Of course you should take this with a salt lick, as I haven't seen Vonleh play.)
 
Vonleh's bball IQ is on the same level as TRob's. He doesn't know the plays and looks lost out there from what I've read. Trying to find the tweet.
 
RoyToy said:
Vonleh's bball IQ is on the same level as TRob's. He doesn't know the plays and looks lost out there from what I've read. Trying to find the tweet.
Click to expand...
Draft express made the BBall IQ is his biggest weakness
 
Sounds like Jermaine O'Neal?
(That's a little two-faced of me - I never liked Jerm.)
 
RoyToy said:
Vonleh's bball IQ is on the same level as TRob's. He doesn't know the plays and looks lost out there from what I've read. Trying to find the tweet.
Click to expand...
I have to agree. Great upside but I am seriously worried we traded for TRob 2.0
 
TRob's athleticism is much better than Vonleh's. TRob could put the ball on the floor just fine.... he just couldn't finish.
 
RoyToy said:
Vonleh's bball IQ is on the same level as TRob's. He doesn't know the plays and looks lost out there from what I've read. Trying to find the tweet.
Click to expand...
He played 25 games in the NBA. is almost 19 and it was his rookie season...I'd give him some room to show what his upside is. I watched film on him and he seemed way ahead of Meyers or TRob as far as instincts for a rookie
 
We all thought Meyers was beyond hope.....and he was 22.
 
It's not like Meyers is starter material

At least on a contending team
 
Like I said before no team trades a lottery pick after a quarter of a season without there being a huge catch. It seems like the argument is "well its Charlotte, their mangmt sucks" well look at Trob the Kings were the worst of the worst and they seemed like they knew what they were doing dumping trob i think after like half a season.. AND HE WAS EVEN PICKED WAAAY HIGHER AT 4

Vonleh wont be here in 2 years mark my word. Im sure by Januaryish we'll see what the catch was and eventually dump him like we did with the other "potential steal we had in Trob"
 
B-Roy said:
We all thought Meyers was beyond hope.....and he was 22.
Click to expand...

True - but for all his struggles, Leonard still got to play over 1200 minutes as a rookie. Vonleh only managed 260. That is "deep in the coach's doghouse" territory. Leonard was clueless, but at least worked hard enough to earn garbage time minutes.
 
Tunchi said:
Like I said before no team trades a lottery pick after a quarter of a season without there being a huge catch. It seems like the argument is "well its Charlotte, their mangmt sucks" well look at Trob the Kings were the worst of the worst and they seemed like they knew what they were doing dumping trob i think after like half a season.. AND HE WAS EVEN PICKED WAAAY HIGHER AT 4

Vonleh wont be here in 2 years mark my word. Im sure by Januaryish we'll see what the catch was and eventually dump him like we did with the other "potential steal we had in Trob"
Click to expand...

What's interesting is Charlotte never brought Noah in prior to the draft and didn't work him out. They selected him without actually seeing him.

Year later after basically no playing time and reports of he doesn't see the court because he doesn't know the plays and has no feel for the game, and you start to wonder if Charlotte knew they made a mistake. As of right now it looks like they sold high on Vonleh.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Mediocre Man
So......
2
Replies
42
Views
1K
BBert
BBert
Further
Our new roster - Questions abound
2
Replies
57
Views
2K
Darkwebs
Darkwebs
Natebishop3
What would be your rotation at this moment?
2 3 4
Replies
107
Views
7K
Boise Blazer
Boise Blazer
BlazerWookee
Eight Lottery Players
2
Replies
40
Views
2K
PtldPlatypus
PtldPlatypus
magnifier661
2015-16 Roster - Is it finished?
2 3
Replies
67
Views
4K
Wizard Mentor
Wizard Mentor

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top