Sometimes pitching is 20-20

[Rick2583]

Since 1950 16 pitchers have won & lost 20 games in a season during there careers. And of those 16 only 2 of them did it in the same season. Wilbur Wood (1973 = 24-20) and Phil Niekro (1979 = 21-20)

6 pitchers since 1950 have lost 20 or more games in a season more then once, Murry Dickson, Roger Craig, Al Jackson, Dick Ellsworth, Wilbur Wood & Phil Niekro.

On 3 occasions a team had two 20 game looses in the same season, 1962 (Mets), 1965 (Mets) & the 1973 (White sox).


Since 1950 the 20 loss mark has been reached 43 times. 1950s (11), 1960s (16), 1970s (14), & only once in 1980 & the last time being 2003.

To finish this up seeing how this feat (20 loses) in a season has only been reached twice in the last 35 years & none since 2003, I really don't see this happening again. Especially the 20-20 (same season) club. There's just not enough starts anymore.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Since 1950 16 pitchers have won & lost 20 games in a season during there careers. And of those 16 only 2 of them did it in the same season. Wilbur Wood (1973 = 24-20) and Phil Niekro (1979 = 21-20)

6 pitchers since 1950 have lost 20 or more games in a season more then once, Murry Dickson, Roger Craig, Al Jackson, Dick Ellsworth, Wilbur Wood & Phil Niekro.

On 3 occasions a team had two 20 game looses in the same season, 1962 (Mets), 1965 (Mets) & the 1973 (White sox).


Since 1950 the 20 loss mark has been reached 43 times. 1950s (11), 1960s (16), 1970s (14), & only once in 1980 & the last time being 2003.

To finish this up seeing how this feat (20 loses) in a season has only been reached twice in the last 35 years & none since 2003, I really don't see this happening again. Especially the 20-20 (same season) club. There's just not enough starts anymore.

Good Stuff Rick.........and an Excellent Point, (SP's not getting the starts we were so used to in earlier decades).....

As much, we both miss the era of the Complete Game Pitcher(s).......

Today's game is NOT the same as it was prior to creating a 6 IP, SP....

Gotta' say Torre, (as much as I respect Joe) was integral in creating the 6 Inning game, or SP....In his book, Joe said "With our strong bullpen, there was no need to exert an SP, for more than 6 innings; unless He was throwing a Shutout, No Hitter, or Perfect game".

Not a bad strategy, when ya' got a BP with MLB's all time greatest Fireman, and some damn good set up RP's......Yet, I still love to see a complete game thrown...but even College and Minor Lg ranks, promote the short SP outings........

 

[Hammerojustice]

Very good stuff!