An essential element of civil disobedience is the acceptance of the consequences of said disobedience. There needs to be an element of sacrifice to underscore the importance of the cause; to show that their concerns about gun control are so vital that they're willing to accept any disciplinary actions that might be levied in order to make their point and demonstrate their solidarity. I'm disappointed in the schools that are accommodating the walkouts, because they're actually weakening the students' intended message.
I can. It's against the rules. You know...kind of like the rules that the kids want to put in place for other things?
I would invite you, Cup, to read through all of the Federal Gun Laws. And then the analyses of deltas based on gun-free zones. Don't let someone else do the homework for you and distill it into a factually incorrect talking point. You think there is "a lack of any gun control" in this country?
Learn, what, exactly?
Because unexcused absences are literally defined as truancy. And in the Tampa SD, they can have truant kids sent to Child Protective Services. And if it's "excused", it goes against the hours you are supposed to be taught for the year. If the district records that you didn't complete enough hours, excused absence or not, you're either in summer school or redoing a grade.
You can't say "doing nothing hasn't worked". A) you're never going to get to zero deaths, so the extreme reduction in gun violence in non-gun-free areas in the last 2 decades is pretty good. B) we haven't "done nothing". In fact, a lot of cities have done a lot of somethings. They were ruled unconstitutional, and didn't work anyway as intended.
So then should a 14 year old be able to buy a bottle of whiskey and a pack of cigarettes in the name of personal freedom? At some point parameters do make it more difficult for young people to access things that are not good for them ...I don't think an AR15 is such a great thing for young people to own for any real purpose in their lives...apparently young people en masse feel this way as well...hence..march on Washington...I'm proud of these kids
For any purpose, or only those with which you agree? You would support kids walking out to protest schools being gun-free zones, or to demand allowing teachers to be armed, if they believed in that cause? You would support kids walking out to protest homework? Or to demand longer lunch periods, or permission for 18-year-olds to smoke marijuana on campus? Does the purpose of the walkout at all impact your support for the students engaging in civil disobedience to demonstrate their right to peaceful protest?
absolutely....but smoking pot is a bit different from studying under threat of armed attack don't you think? If you think the NRA hasn't lobbied for gun sales and profits for many decades...you're wrong....what makes their lobby any different from a student protest....should the blacks in the deep south who protested segregation be arrested for using the wrong restroom? protests lead to major changes often....don't muzzle these kids or water down their intentions with something like we don't want homework anymore and want to party at school.....many of them just watched classmates being murdered....
I'm not in favor of muzzling anyone. As I said in my first post in this thread, my issue is with the notion that students who engage in civil disobedience should be absolved of consequences. The civil rights protesters in the 60's accepted the consequences of their protests, because they knew their goal was worthy of any consequences they might receive. If these students are of that same mind, then they should be willing to accept those same results.
I'm not putting them at the same level; in fact, I'm setting them as a contrast because they're not at the same level. What I'm asking is whether your support for student protest is universal, or if it is based upon your approval of the cause.
