Summer "BIG Swing" trade

[BigGameDamian]

Would something like this get you excited?

https://ripcityproject.com/portland-trail-blazers-rumors/

Hawks Receive: Robert Williams III and Matisse Thybulle

Mavericks Receive: Anfernee Simons and Terance Mann

Blazers Receive: Klay Thompson, P.J. Washington, Caleb Martin, Kobe Bufkin, Dwight Powell, a 2027 2nd round pick (from ATL, via CLE), a 2029 2nd round pick (from ATL, via CLE), and a 2031 top-eight protected 1st round pick (via Dallas

 

[Portland2014]

yes, please

 

[SharpesTriumph]

yes, please

Sell them on Jerami Grant!

I'd probably give up a pick for the swap.

 

[BigGameDamian]

yes, please

I’ve asked about Darius Garland a couple times before. Would you include Scoot in a trade for Garland?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I’ve asked about Darius Garland a couple times before. Would you include Scoot in a trade for Garland?

Yes if it's just Scoot and one of our crappy overpaid vets. If we have to throw in picks too then no.

Cavs aren't going to want Scoot but maybe a 3rd team would. Doubt he has enough value for us to do a deal so I expect to just root for Scoot.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Yes if it's just Scoot and one of our crappy overpaid vets. If we have to throw in picks too then no.

Cavs aren't going to want Scoot but maybe a 3rd team would. Doubt he has enough value for us to do a deal so I expect to just root for Scoot.

Scoot and a crappy vet? Cavs would hang up the phone. Garland is an all star and that’s what the Blazers need.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Scoot and a crappy vet? Cavs would hang up the phone. Garland is an all star and that’s what the Blazers need.

Garland isn't an all-star leading a team to a title. There's a reason Cleveland is prioritizing Mobley and Mitchell over him.

Yes I highly doubt a trade could make sense. Our vets suck and yes Cleveland would need a starter for a deal.

Think we're going to have to hope to luck into an all-star in the draft or get a vet that improves like Deni.

 

[wizenheimer]

Garland isn't an all-star leading a team to a title. There's a reason Cleveland is prioritizing Mobley and Mitchell over him.

I'd imagine the reason is next season, they are 10M OVER the 2nd apron with only 11 players. And their payroll increases by 13M the next season with only 9 players under contract. In 2026-27, Garland and Allen combine for 70M in salary; next season, 60M. The Cavs have dug an exceptionally deep tax and apron hole; and they just got blitzed 4-1 in the 2nd round. They desperately need to cut salary

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

Would something like this get you excited?

https://ripcityproject.com/portland-trail-blazers-rumors/

Hawks Receive: Robert Williams III and Matisse Thybulle

Mavericks Receive: Anfernee Simons and Terance Mann

Blazers Receive: Klay Thompson, P.J. Washington, Caleb Martin, Kobe Bufkin, Dwight Powell, a 2027 2nd round pick (from ATL, via CLE), a 2029 2nd round pick (from ATL, via CLE), and a 2031 top-eight protected 1st round pick (via Dallas

Nope. Not at all

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I’ve asked about Darius Garland a couple times before. Would you include Scoot in a trade for Garland?

No.

 

[Hoopguru]

I think Chauncey knows enough about his guards and the kind of players they will be. He knows by now who should be our 1/2 guards. This is strictly a pull out of the ass scenario. We keep Simons and package either Shae or Scoot to trade up or trade for? I think he's wants to keep Thy.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I think Chauncey knows enough about his guards and the kind of players they will be. He knows by now who should be our 1/2 guards. This is strictly a pull out of the ass scenario. We keep Simons and package either Shae or Scoot to trade up or trade for? I think he's wants to keep Thy.

Thy?

 

[blazerkor]

Thy?

I was assuming that was a Tisse reference Matisse Thybulle. That's my best guess. I don't think we should move Matisse just to move him but there might be teams willing to give up a piece that makes sense.

Both Tisse and Rob can be traded into a team's MLE if they don't mind being hard capped but like I said, I would need a return for either one of those guys and while I don't think either would fetch a FRP right now I think it would be more like multiple second rounders or us packaging them with multiple SRPs for a protected FRP, type of thing.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

I was assuming that was a Tisse reference Matisse Thybulle. That's my best guess. I don't think we should move Matisse just to move him but there might be teams willing to give up a piece that makes sense.

Both Tisse and Rob can be traded into a team's MLE if they don't mind being hard capped but like I said, I would need a return for either one of those guys and while I don't think either would fetch a FRP right now I think it would be more like multiple second rounders or us packaging them with multiple SRPs for a protected FRP, type of thing.

I don't see it. If Thybulle has MLE value, let alone that plus 2nd round pick(s), his agent will instead have him opt out and a team just signs him outright.

TRob hasn't been healthy in years - I don't see how he'd fetch a 2nd unless we take on an even worse contract.

I expect both will be here for the start of the season, unless they match salaries in a larger trade, but if they play well then maybe would fetch a 2nd round pick during the season. Their both good locker room guys and willing to accept lesser roles unlike Ayton/Grant/Ant.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I really hope we are able to keep Thybulle.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Shaedon Sharpe to Atlanta

Dyson Daniels to Portland

fight me

 

[Natebishop3]

Shaedon Sharpe to Atlanta

Dyson Daniels to Portland

fight me

No thanks. Daniels is what he is. He's a good role player. I still have hopes for Shae.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

No thanks. Daniels is what he is. He's a good role player. I still have hopes for Shae.

He is an elite defender. Don't forget that part.

 

[Pinwheel1]

No thanks. Daniels is what he is. He's a good role player. I still have hopes for Shae.

With Daniels, Camara, and Clingan on the floor, the D would be great, but that just leaves Scoot and Deni as the leading scorers.
That would not be good. Shae showed way too much potential last year to move him for Daniels.

 

[Natebishop3]

He is an elite defender. Don't forget that part.

We have those. We need people who can actually score the basketball.

 

[Natebishop3]

With Daniels, Camara, and Clingan on the floor, the D would be great, but that just leaves Scoot and Deni as the leading scorers.
That would not be good. Shae showed way too much potential last year to move him for Daniels.

Exactly.

 

[wizenheimer]

With Daniels, Camara, and Clingan on the floor, the D would be great, but that just leaves Scoot and Deni as the leading scorers.
That would not be good. Shae showed way too much potential last year to move him for Daniels.

I'd stay with Sharpe too. With Camara-Avdija-Clingan-Scoot-Thybulle the Blazers are getting flush on supporting players and 3rd/4th options. They need a couple of alpha dogs. Sharpe may not be that, but right now he probably represents Portlands best chance at an alpha.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

We have those. We need people who can actually score the basketball.

Not as good as Dyson though. And dude is 22 years old. He won most improved player.

I like Shaedon too, but i'd like to see him jump up a step next year.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Sharpe's 3pt percentage was not good, but he still made 67 more than Daniels did last year. Shae just needs to be a bit more selective.
And we all know he attacks the rim pretty well.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Sharpe's 3pt percentage was not good, but he still made 67 more than Daniels did last year. Shae just needs to be a bit more selective.
And we all know he attacks the rim pretty well.

His last two years 3pt percentage has been very disappointing. Hope we see progress next year.

 

[Natebishop3]

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I'd stay with Sharpe too. With Camara-Avdija-Clingan-Scoot-Thybulle the Blazers are getting flush on supporting players and 3rd/4th options. They need a couple of alpha dogs. Sharpe may not be that, but right now he probably represents Portlands best chance at an alpha.

Yeah. I don't see Daniels as a number one option on any team. I still think Sharpe could be a #1.

 

[Quatro44]

I can't believe people want to trade Sharpe. It's his birthday, come on man.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Toumani and Dyson will be fighting for DPOTY for the next decade.

Put them on the same team and you’re building a steel curtain defense. Especially when you also factor in who I think will be the true defensive anchor: Clingan.

They aren’t go-to scorers but neither are liabilities. I think you’d even have to throw in a MIL pick to get Atlanta’s attention

 

[wizenheimer]

well, might be that Zion's trade value has dropped well into the negative:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45393231/zion-williamson-sued-allegations-rape-years-abuse

 

[LayneStaley]

Toumani and Dyson will be fighting for DPOTY for the next decade.

Put them on the same team and you’re building a steel curtain defense. Especially when you also factor in who I think will be the true defensive anchor: Clingan.

They aren’t go-to scorers but neither are liabilities. I think you’d even have to throw in a MIL pick to get Atlanta’s attention

I think Wemby is gonna win a few of those DPOTY eventually.