Summer "BIG Swing" trade

[PtldPlatypus]

Parameters: We don't move up in the draft, and since we missed out on Flagg/Harper/Bailey, Cronin decides our best path to contention is to use picks, a vet or two, and one of our presumed core 5--Scoot, Shae, Deni, Toumani, Clingan--to trade for a star to try to contend in the west in 2025-26.

Given those parameters, which of our core 5 would you be most comfortable seeing dealt for a home-run swing? Would it be completely dependent on target? Like, you'd include Scoot in a trade for Ja, but would prefer to deal Sharpe for Booker, or Toumani for Zion? Is any one of those 5 completely off the table?

(Yes, I'll probably merge this with the "summer trade targets" thread in a couple days, but I wanted to have this be its own stand-alone question for a moment)

 

[Boise Blazer]

This is part of the problem. If you look at the league and who might be available there isn't much unless you believe in Zion and that the Pels are ready to move on. I've gone team by team a few times and the availability and timeliness are going to make it very tough. I agreed this is the move to make I just don't see who makes sense AND is available. Bad timing unless someone asks out from their team out of the blue.

 

[MickZagger]

This is part of the problem. If you look at the league and who might be available there isn't much unless you believe in Zion and that the Pels are ready to move on. I've gone team by team a few times and the availability and timeliness are going to make it very tough. I agreed this is the move to make I just don't see who makes sense AND is available. Bad timing unless someone asks out from their team out of the blue.

At the same time no one thought Luka would be available either..

 

[PtldPlatypus]

This is part of the problem. If you look at the league and who might be available there isn't much unless you believe in Zion and that the Pels are ready to move on. I've gone team by team a few times and the availability and timeliness are going to make it very tough. I agreed this is the move to make I just don't see who makes sense AND is available. Bad timing unless someone asks out from their team out of the blue.

Yeah, Zion is one possibility. Giannis could be a target if the Bucks see the writing on the wall. Booker could be available if the Suns tear down. (Durant too, but I'd pass). Grizz could decide Morant needs a change of scenery. Maybe the Kings decide to rebuild and make Sabonis available, or the Hawks decide Trae and Risacher are on too far divergent timelines? Never really know...

 

[Boise Blazer]

At the same time no one thought Luka would be available either..

I think that type of "out of nowhere" avaibilty is exactly what we have to hope for and then hope the player WANTS to come here and the timelines work but I agree.

 

[MickZagger]

I think that type of "out of nowhere" avaibilty is exactly what we have to hope for and then hope the player WANTS to come here and the timelines work but I agree.

Another Advija type player would be nice. Someone on the cusp of breaking out in the right situation.

 

[blazerkor]

Deandre, our pick in this draft, the worst of the 2029 FRPs for Zion. It's a big swing, it has high risk and high reward, we don't have to give up one of our young guys and we could still likely get something of value (a role player or late FRP) for Ant.

I don't know who comes off the bench but a core six of Scoot, Shae, Tou, Deni, Clingan with Zion added to that mix sounds pretty fun to me.

 

[Hoopguru]

Ayton straight across for Sabonis.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Parameters: We don't move up in the draft, and since we missed out on Flagg/Harper/Bailey, Cronin decides our best path to contention is to use picks, a vet or two, and one of our presumed core 5--Scoot, Shae, Deni, Toumani, Clingan--to trade for a star to try to contend in the west in 2025-26.

Given those parameters, which of our core 5 would you be most comfortable seeing dealt for a home-run swing? Would it be completely dependent on target? Like, you'd include Scoot in a trade for Ja, but would prefer to deal Sharpe for Booker, or Toumani for Zion? Is any one of those 5 completely off the table?

(Yes, I'll probably merge this with the "summer trade targets" thread in a couple days, but I wanted to have this be its own stand-alone question for a moment)

If we want any of the high-priced vets that you used as examples, I think our best chance is to offer an ending contract and 2 first-round picks. This year's and the unprotected one from the Bucks. That is a good package. I'm just not sure who I would want in that scenario.

 

[Strenuus]

At the same time no one thought Luka would be available either..

We don't have anything to lure a midnight superstar trade like that, so it wouldn't matter.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Parameters: We don't move up in the draft, and since we missed out on Flagg/Harper/Bailey, Cronin decides our best path to contention is to use picks, a vet or two, and one of our presumed core 5--Scoot, Shae, Deni, Toumani, Clingan--to trade for a star to try to contend in the west in 2025-26.

Given those parameters, which of our core 5 would you be most comfortable seeing dealt for a home-run swing? Would it be completely dependent on target? Like, you'd include Scoot in a trade for Ja, but would prefer to deal Sharpe for Booker, or Toumani for Zion? Is any one of those 5 completely off the table?

(Yes, I'll probably merge this with the "summer trade targets" thread in a couple days, but I wanted to have this be its own stand-alone question for a moment)

There isn't enough left over to legitimately compete even if we do trade for a star.

We just don't have enough, IMO.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Another Advija type player would be nice. Someone on the cusp of breaking out in the right situation.

We'd probably need at least 2 more trades like that to even get into the conversation, IMO. And then we'd probably still be an underdog.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Ayton straight across for Sabonis.

I wonder if the Kings might have interest in Ayton? Pairing him with LeVine and Derozan. We would probably have to add in a couple of picks.

 

[Hoopguru]

I wonder if the Kings might have interest in Ayton? Pairing him with LeVine and Derozan. We would probably have to add in a couple of picks.

Ayton 2 years younger and a legit center. Sabas can play 4/5.

 

[Hoopguru]

Sabonis, Deny and Tou would be a nice front court. Throw in Simons or Grant for salary / futures.

 

[PDXFonz]

I don’t think that anything other than seeing who we get in the draft and watching this young team get experience makes sense.

Trading young talent away for someone like Booker (I know it was just an example) would feel like a step in the wrong direction to me. Outside of the realistic targets, I don’t think the value is there, and I wouldn’t trade a few of our young up and coming players for anyone we could realistically get for them.

Grant is the only realistic trade piece we have for our current trajectory and his potential value to other teams.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Ayton + Ant works for Sabas + Monk. Perhaps Portland throws in their 1st to make it even.

 

[Strenuus]

Ayton + Ant works for Sabas + Monk. Perhaps Portland throws in their 1st to make it even.

Why would Sacramento even do that?

 

[kjironman1]

Parameters: We don't move up in the draft, and since we missed out on Flagg/Harper/Bailey, Cronin decides our best path to contention is to use picks, a vet or two, and one of our presumed core 5--Scoot, Shae, Deni, Toumani, Clingan--to trade for a star to try to contend in the west in 2025-26.


Given those parameters, which of our core 5 would you be most comfortable seeing dealt for a home-run swing? Would it be completely dependent on target? Like, you'd include Scoot in a trade for Ja, but would prefer to deal Sharpe for Booker, or Toumani for Zion? Is any one of those 5 completely off the table?

(Yes, I'll probably merge this with the "summer trade targets" thread in a couple days, but I wanted to have this be its own stand-alone question for a moment)

Seems like you completely forgot about Simons, Grant, Ayton , and Williams.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[Boomchakalaka2]

Target a power forward (talent) to add to what we have been building:


Add Jalen Jackson, Jr. (25 years old, past DPY)

[send Ayton and a 2029 pick]

Keep our #9 pick and target best available PF

trade away Grant

trade Ant plus a 2029 draft pick for a 2025 #1 pick and target an athletic Center

Clinghan / a 2025 pick / Reath
Jackson / Walker / our 2025 1st round pick
Toumari / Murray / Rupert
Sharpe / Thybulle / Banton
Deni / Scoot / McGowens

 

[RR7]

Something built around Trae or Ja, although neither really excites me

 

[RR7]

Giannis and Dame for Scoot, Sharpe, Ayton and Grant

Dame/Camara/Deni/Giannis/Clingan
Anfernee/Thybulle/Murray/Walker/RW3

Then ideally, a few cheap vets to fill in at C and on the wings for the bench. Imagine a closing defensive lineup of Thybulle/Camara/Deni/Giannis/Clingan?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Giannis and Dame for Scoot, Sharpe, Ayton and Grant

Dame/Camara/Deni/Giannis/Clingan
Anfernee/Thybulle/Murray/Walker/RW3

Then ideally, a few cheap vets to fill in at C and on the wings for the bench. Imagine a closing defensive lineup of Thybulle/Camara/Deni/Giannis/Clingan?

Then hire the best pick and roll coach possible.

Might get lucky and make a deep run once or twice while Dame can still play.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Seems like you completely forgot about Simons, Grant, Ayton , and Williams.

What makes you think I "forgot" them, rather than excluded them intentionally?

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Why would Sacramento even do that?

Asking why the Kings would do something completely forgets who the Sacramento Kings are as a franchise.

 

[KingSpeed]

I think we should clear the runway for Sharpe. This means no Ant and no player like Durant who is great but would be in the way. I’m fine with Zion though.

 

[Natebishop3]

Here are the stars that I think could be available this summer:

Booker
Durant
Zion
Dame
Trae Young
Jamal Murray
Ja

The only guys on that list that would interest me are Booker and maybe Zion. I think we could either do a solo trade for Booker where we send expiring contracts/picks and maybe one young player OR I could see a threeway with Booker coming here and Durant going to Houston.

Zion is interesting. If he could be had for expiring contracts and some picks, I think it could be worth it.

I'm seriously starting to wonder if the team isn't sold on Scoot though. Would people be willing to roll the dice on Scoot/Ayton/picks for Zion?

 

[Ripcity4life77]

I hate to be the ICE cold water on this thread but what pieces do the Blazers have that could land a big fish ??

Unless this team gets a Top 3 pick then MAYBE they could package a Grant or something with it to get a deal done but unless that happens the chances of it happening is not happening. The only chance is if Cronin can find a GM dumber then him so do a deal .. so do the Mavs have anyone we want -- LOL -- kidding but that is my point.

 

[Cugel]

I think you would trying to get Zion, Trae or Ja. It just seems like they might need a change of scenery?? I still don’t think that makes POR a contender though. Give up Scoot, DC, Tou or Deni. Keep Shae and pray he turns the corner. The vets are just expirings at this point. Nobody wants DA or JG. They will be out of the league after their deals are up unless they take a huge huge pay cut.

All that said I would hope Joe doesn’t do it unless a deal is just too good to refuse. My problem is I like these young guys and don’t want to see them go. Say in 3 years what will they look like, provided they get some additional diamonds in the rough or nail the draft picks? Should be pretty good hopefully