Zombie Summer of 2016 NBA Free Agency

[JfizzleBlazer]

According to Tim MacMahon of ESPN, The Magic are the biggest threat to steal Chandler Parsons this summer.

Florida does have no State Income Tax (either does TX of course) and he did go to College there.

If he still maintains his residence in Florida, then the state income tax thing is a stupid argument.

Just because he would play in Portland, does not mean he would be taxed on all his earnings in Portland. Only the games that are played in the moda center. So it's much more negligable than people think.

 

[Natebishop3]

According to Tim MacMahon of ESPN, The Magic are the biggest threat to steal Chandler Parsons this summer.

Florida does have no State Income Tax (either does TX of course) and he did go to College there.

I just saw that article as well. Either way, I think it's a legitimate concern for the Mavs that he'll leave. If I'm a guy who is just entering my prime, why would I stay on a team with a bunch of aging vets? Dallas is just barely good enough to tread water in the bottom half of the top 8. They aren't going to win a championship. They need to rebuild. Dirk isn't a guy who can carry the team anymore.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

If he still maintains his residence in Florida, then the state income tax thing is a stupid argument.

Just because he would play in Portland, does not mean he would be taxed on all his earnings in Portland. Only the games that are played in the moda center. So it's much more negligable than people think.

That is a VERY small piece of the decision. More like a tiebreaker.

The bigger point is he went to school there and from all indications loved his time there. It is FL or TX imo. Not that we shouldn't try for him...I just going to keep my expectations in check.

 

[JDC]

If we somehow sign Parsons, one of Aminu/Harkless is in a different uniform next year, no? My bet is Harklesss. As much as I like him, I wouldn't be surprised if he signs a contract somewhere this summer that's richer than the one we have Aminu on.

 

[Natebishop3]

If we somehow sign Parsons, one of Aminu/Harkless is in a different uniform next year, no? My bet is Harklesss. As much as I like him, I wouldn't be surprised if he signs a contract somewhere this summer that's richer than the one we have Aminu on.

We have his RFA status. Unless it's crazy money, I imagine we match. If we were to sign Parsons, I think someone is traded.

 

[JDC]

We have his RFA status. Unless it's crazy money, I imagine we match. If we were to sign Parsons, I think someone is traded.

Correct. I don't believe we match though if he's offered 8 a year if we happen to nab Parsons. I guess we could always sign and trade him though.

If the organization thinks he has the potential to be an average 3 point shooter, maybe they opt to trade aminu, but can't imagine we keep all three.

 

[Natebishop3]

Correct. I don't believe we match though if he's offered 8 a year if we happen to nab Parsons. I guess we could always sign and trade him though.

If the organization thinks he has the potential to be an average 3 point shooter, maybe they opt to trade aminu, but can't imagine we keep all three.

At this point, I would rather keep Harkless and let Leonard walk.

 

[BonesJones]

Why do y'all want Parsons? The dude can't defend!!!

 

[oldmangrouch]

I'm sure the team could land another Aminu/Davis type role player to replace Vonleh/Leonard/Harkless.....but that is hardly a needle-mover. What they need is another impact player - and there aren't a lot of those available.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Why do y'all want Parsons? The dude can't defend!!!

Sure he can. He was a pretty good defender in Houston (0.9 notwithstanding); just has been more focused on trying to be a scorer after signing his big deal in Dallas.

 

[B-Roy]

I think people here underestimate Aminu's value around the league.

This is a guy who would be a rotation player on literally every team in the league, and he's signed on to a reasonable, long term, DECLINING contract.

If it comes to it, the moment Neil places Aminu on the trading block he's going to have 6-7 suitors lined up and then he can just pick the best deal.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

I don't think Barnes is necessarily a lock; though, I'm not saying the Warriors don't resign him. Currently Klay, Dreymond-Green and Curry are all signed to max deals. However, curry only has one year left on his contract after this year at $12 million and after that's up, his annual average jumps up to $25 million. So they also have to prepare for the future salary as well. Realistically the Warriors the could trade away iggy($11 million) or Bogut($12 million) contract to ensure enough cap space for Barnes. But I question if it's worth it for them vs a team like the blazers where giving a max out to him is more worth the money since they lack the collective starters the warriors have.

The Warriors could also give Barnes the MAX, then trade him in the offseason of 2017. AI's contract would also be expiring then if they chose to replace him. I do not think they let someone shooting over 40% from 3 walk for nothing.

I think he would be very good here though.

 

[Pinwheel1]

The Warriors could also give Barnes the MAX, then trade him in the offseason of 2017. AI's contract would also be expiring then if they chose to replace him. I do not think they let someone shooting over 40% from 3 walk for nothing.

I think he would be very good here though.

41% is pretty good even if Curry and Thompson are getting most of the attention. Interesting he only takes 3 per game.
Crabbe on the other hand takes 4 per game off the bench and shoots just above 37%.

I ask this question again...is Barnes better than Crabbe? I honestly do not know the answer, but I do think it is pretty close. My gut says Barnes could be a better post up player, but Crabbe has a more effective floater. I assume Barnes is a better finisher with his crazy hops. But in terms of D, both have the same wing span, with Crabbe having a longer standing reach. I do think Crabbe works harder on D.

 

[Draco]

41% is pretty good even if Curry and Thompson are getting most of the attention. Interesting he only takes 3 per game.
Crabbe on the other hand takes 4 per game off the bench and shoots just above 37%.

I ask this question again...is Barnes better than Crabbe? I honestly do not know the answer, but I do think it is pretty close. My gut says Barnes could be a better post up player, but Crabbe has a more effective floater. I assume Barnes is a better finisher with his crazy hops. But in terms of D, both have the same wing span, with Crabbe having a longer standing reach. I do think Crabbe works harder on D.

Crabbe fouls a ton; his defense is overrated. I do think he's a superior shooter but Barnes is more physical and versatile defensively.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

If Barnes were on our roster, do you think Aminu would be starting? Crabbe may be a better 2 than Barnes is a 3 though.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

If Barnes were on our roster, do you think Aminu would be starting? Crabbe may be a better 2 than Barnes is a 3 though.

Barnes would definitely start for us at 3 this year. But pretend he was making max this year for us. He wouldn't be THAT much better than Aminu compared to the huge discrepancy in contract.

 

[BonesJones]

I'd love to get Pau Gasol for a 2 year deal. He's still an all-star and is a great fit offensively and defensively. He could also be a mentor to Vonleh. That's the type of guy I could see Olshey signing on the first day, leaving space to still go after a Horford or Durant.

I know he's old, but I'd rather have 2 years of great play than 5 years of an overpaid player that doesn't fit our style and doesn't help the team enough to live up to his contract. Players such as Chandler Parsons, Harrison Barnes, Hassan Whiteside, etc.

 

[Draco]

I'm starting to wonder if there's a real chance Durant might look for a new team. If the Thunder lose in the first or second round when fully healthy how can they expect to win a title soon? This will be almost a decade he's tried to win with that franchise.

It's starting to seem similar to LaMarcus last 25 games here where you can see dissapointment and negative vibes spreading on that team.

Us being a legit feel good story playoff group could make our team appealing as when the Rockets made the playoffs with Harden then signed Dwight. Hate comparing us to that terrible franchise. But superstars want to go to a playoff team they can elevate to contender. I don't see him having any interest in a Warriors team that won it all without him. Washington doesn't have as many young pieces. Orlando isn't close to the playoffs. Houston has way too much negativity.

Durant isn't a big city attention whore as Melo, Dwight, Kobe are. Even Westbrook seems like an LA or NY guy where Durant is going for basketball, teamwork and authenticity. He loved his time in the NW his first year, didn't want the team to leave, and has put on events in Seattle.

I think we'd have a better chance of signing Durant if we don't face his team in the playoffs. You wouldn't want to join up with guys you just battled against.

Would love to see a Stotts offense with Durant in it. It would unleash him in a way Scott Brooks and Billy Donovan have never done.

Yeah still very unlikely something like that happens but their struggles and our unexpected winning had entered it into the realm of remote possibility whereas before it was basically zero chance.

 

[illmatic99]

Was listening to the locked on podcast, and they brought up the idea of KD to Portland.

Made me giddy just listening to that.

http://lockedonsports.libsyn.com/episode-8-mavs-voice-chuck-cooperstein

 

[illmatic99]

If we actually have a chance at KD, Neil will go HARD after either Monroe or Whiteside.

Dame-CJ-KD-Aminu-Whiteside

Ages next year:

26-25-28-26-27

Holy shit.

/delusion

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

Crabbe fouls a ton; his defense is overrated. I do think he's a superior shooter but Barnes is more physical and versatile defensively.

Sometimes I look at the box score, not having seen the game and I see Crabbe get a fair number of minutes but overall, he does not get very many rebounds, assists, steals, blocks or points.

I know box score doesn't show all but if you go by those kinds of items, Crabbe is average at best.

Gramps...

 

[riverman]

I'd love to get Pau Gasol for a 2 year deal. He's still an all-star and is a great fit offensively and defensively. He could also be a mentor to Vonleh. That's the type of guy I could see Olshey signing on the first day, leaving space to still go after a Horford or Durant.

I know he's old, but I'd rather have 2 years of great play than 5 years of an overpaid player that doesn't fit our style and doesn't help the team enough to live up to his contract. Players such as Chandler Parsons, Harrison Barnes, Hassan Whiteside, etc.

I also thought about a 2 year ZBo deal..he's a free agent and a year younger than Pau...Pau would be a perfect Stotts type player though

 

[chzbrgr]

our offense with KD .....**shudders**

 

[BonesJones]

Homer plan:
Sign KD ($27M off cap)
Trade Aminu, future 2nd for a future 1st
Trade Davis for a future 1st
Sign and trade Meyers for a future 1st
Trade for the draft rights to Taurean Prince
Trade Connaughton, future 2nd for Georges Niang
Sign Horford ($19M) and Gasol ($10M)
Resign Crabbe
Sign CJ Watson with MLE or BAE
Sign Andre Miller for vets minimum

Lillard (36) / Watson (12) / Miller
McCollum (36) / Crabbe (20) / Montero
Durant (36) / Prince (5) /
Gasol (18) / Vonleh (15) / Niang
Horford (32) / Plumlee (20)/ Alexander

 

[Natebishop3]

KD would be a wet dream.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I wonder how much of a factor of who wins the championships plays into where the top FA's go. For example if GS wins again, IMO there is no way Durant would go there after they won two in a row. It would be a no win situation for him. If they did not 3peat with him, he would be blamed, and if they did win a third, then he would not get the same recognition. And if GS lost this year, maybe he would consider going there.

And if GS did win again this year, which teams might the top FA's look at joining that could dethrone the two time champs, and the style of ball they play. Maybe KD would look towards Portland......

 

[BonesJones]

If we actually have a chance at KD, Neil will go HARD after either Monroe or Whiteside.

Dame-CJ-KD-Aminu-Whiteside

Ages next year:

26-25-28-26-27

Holy shit.

/delusion

Why do people still want Monroe and Whiteside? They don't make teams better!!

 

[blue9]

Let's just be patient and poach Towns once he starts making noise about not wanting to be in MIN.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

Let's just be patient and poach Towns once he starts making noise about not wanting to be in MIN.

While he is making his move to PDX, he can convince Wiggins to come as well?

 

[Draco]

Let's just be patient and poach Towns once he starts making noise about not wanting to be in MIN.

Rookie contract and restricted free agent contracts last 9 total years. So yeah we'll have to be patient because he can't walk until 2024.

I guess we can hope Minny trades him earlier in 2022?