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Hoopguru said:
The Lakers will be tanking big time for a shot at the generational playa.
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I thought they already had two generational players on that team? Three is you count the guy that averaged a triple double all season?
 
wizenheimer said:
the protections olshey allowed Chicago to put on that pick are fucking ridiculous. Locking up Blazer first round picks for 7 years...for Nance. geeeeeezuz
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You can't have it both ways...

Would you have rather given up the #7 pick (Sharpe) for Nance?

The protections were put on the pick by Portland - not Chicago.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
I thought they already had two generational players on that team? Three is you count the guy that averaged a triple double all season?
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The guy that averaged a triple double that cant shoot worth beans? And nobody wants in at end of games. That guy!
 
If Silver wants Wemby in LA it prob will happen in some magical way!
 
Wemba looked incredible the other night. Best prospect since LeBron?

Blazers need to make a decision quick on trying to win vs tank this season. Last year they waited until January which kept us out of the top 5 picks.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
You can't have it both ways...

Would you have rather given up the #7 pick (Sharpe) for Nance?

The protections were put on the pick by Portland - not Chicago.
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they aren't as much protections as impediments. Teams almost never protect a pick that long. It's almost always for 2 or 3 seasons, at most, than switching to a 2nd round pick or two. And those are usually for players quite a bit better than the often-injured Nance

a good GM would not have encumbered Portland first's for 7 years, certainly not for Nance.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Wemba looked incredible the other night. Best prospect since LeBron?

Blazers need to make a decision quick on trying to win vs tank this season. Last year they waited until January which kept us out of the top 5 picks.
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c'mon man. Blazers would not only have to trade Dame, they'd have to trade Grant, Nurkic, Hart, and maybe even Simons to have a chance to 'compete' for the first pick. And even if they had the worst record in the league, they'd only have a 25% chance of landing on #1
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Wemba looked incredible the other night. Best prospect since LeBron?

Blazers need to make a decision quick on trying to win vs tank this season. Last year they waited until January which kept us out of the top 5 picks.
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We will know by the end of November this year.
 
wizenheimer said:
c'mon man. Blazers would not only have to trade Dame, they'd have to trade Grant, Nurkic, Hart, and maybe even Simons to have a chance to 'compete' for the first pick. And even if they had the worst record in the league, they'd only have a 25% chance of landing on #1
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I thought it was 14%?
But they have like 66% of getting in the top 3?
 
BankTeller said:
I didn’t want it both ways…I would have rather not traded a 1st for a role player…
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I think Grant is going to be good, but not an All Star. It's possible he won't make the team any better than if the Blazers had used Winslow and Little and Jabari Walker at power forward. Grant seems to be the weakest of those 4 at rebounding. Probably the best at shooting, and Billups seems to be leaning toward offense much more than defense despite what he says.
 
blazerfan11 said:
I think Grant is going to be good, but not an All Star. It's possible he won't make the team any better than if the Blazers had used Winslow and Little and Jabari Walker at power forward. Grant seems to be the weakest of those 4 at rebounding. Probably the best at shooting, and Billups seems to be leaning toward offense much more than defense despite what he says.
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Huh? What did that have to do with my response to what you said? Did you think I literally meant I would only trade 1sts if they’re an AS like meaning they had to have made an AS game one time?

Com’on man, are you really going to pretend all role players are created equal and also not consider context at all?

Grant was traded for a MIL pick 3 years from now and Nance was traded for a #15th pick at worst. You do realize Nance was traded for more than Grant right (I’ll add the caveat that Giannis is healthy in 2025 cause right now you seem like the guy who would forget context)?

Edit: didn’t realize you weren’t the guy I responded to.
 
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BankTeller said:
I didn’t want it both ways…I would have rather not traded a 1st for a role player…
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Olshey traded three 1st round picks for RoCo and Nance.....geeeezuz. In fact, he traded four 1st round picks + Will Barton for Afflalo, RoCo, and Nance. He loved those role players just so long as he could keep CJ as the starting SG
 
wizenheimer said:
Olshey traded three 1st round picks for RoCo and Nance.....geeeezuz. In fact, he traded four 1st round picks + Will Barton for Afflalo, RoCo, and Nance. He loved those role players just so long as he could keep CJ as the starting SG
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Should probably include two firsts for Zach Collins in there too.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Should probably include two firsts for Zach Collins in there too.
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I wouldn’t. At the time, I didn’t mind it because we thought he was going to be our starting PF and seemingly was growing into that guy. In hindsight, it still wasn’t terrible considering you can’t predict injuries and 15 and 20 ended up becoming Jackson and Giles.
 
BankTeller said:
I wouldn’t. At the time, I didn’t mind it because we thought he was going to be our starting PF and seemingly was growing into that guy. In hindsight, it still wasn’t terrible considering you can’t predict injuries and 15 and 20 ended up becoming Jackson and Giles.
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Who is to say we would have taken those guys? Plenty of talent at 10, 15 and 20, hell even 26.

It was a complete whiff that would have changed the course of the franchise if we would have made the right pick.
 
OK, I will say what a lot of people are thinking. Pushing to be 9th or 10th in a 15 team conference is just pathetic. In what reality is that a successful season? Multiple seasons in the 9-12 range is a bigger failure than 1 season at 15th.

Actually, with the new play-in silliness only the top 6 spots could be considered successful.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Should probably include two firsts for Zach Collins in there too.
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yeah, I kind of forgot about that...too painful I guess because that 2017 draft was a real disater of missed opportunities for Portland

so that makes the tally, six 1st round picks + Will Barton for Afflalo, Zach, RoCo, and Nance....yuck
 
oldmangrouch said:
OK, I will say what a lot of people are thinking. Pushing to be 9th or 10th in a 15 team conference is just pathetic. In what reality is that a successful season? Multiple seasons in the 9-12 range is a bigger failure than 1 season at 15th.

Actually, with the new play-in silliness only the top 6 spots could be considered successful.
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The NBA is trying to go World Cup Soccer with their marketing approach. From expanded playoffs with huge tv contracts because of fan interest drives the economics that keep it rolling with enhanced interest. The product is segmented like the automobile industry anymore, something and a good fit for everyone with lots of available brands.
The NBA usually has 4/5 legit contenders each year and the others all compete to have a chance to rock the world. Those fans are the segment that purchases a mid market car because its what they can afford and feel good about. Not everyone can afford a Lexus or MB.
 
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