Politics Tara Reade

[Rastapopoulos]

So, she can be made to sound pretty wacky (apparently a real Putin fan) but keeps getting more corroborating witnesses for the Biden accusation. What should Dems do? Obviously what they SHOULD do is insist Biden step aside. How can they support Biden given the (correct) stance on Christine Blasey Ford? But on the other hand, what's the (political) alternative? You just know the party isn't going to let Bernie replace him as the candidate, but if they try to pass Biden's mantle on to another centrist, Bernie supporters are going to go apeshit. Is this how Trump survives?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

It would be interesting to hear the take of those who insisted Al Franken step down.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Klobuchar for President
Sanders for VP

It's the Dems only way out of this.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Hillary 2020.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Klobuchar.

Her name sounds like the next pandemic coming out of China

 

[Strenuus]

I'm down for Biden getting out.

I do love the hypocrisy of the "gotchyas" from the other side, like it somehow vindicates trump and absolves them. lmao.

Bring in someone. A centrist, extreme, doesn't matter.

 

[magnifier661]

It would be interesting to hear the take of those who insisted Al Franken step down.

I didn’t think Al Franken should of stepped down. The photo of him pretending to grab that lady’s boobs was inappropriate, but done when he was a comedian, and still not worthy of stepping down as a congressman. The lady accepted Franken’s apology as well. The #MeToo movement destroyed a good senator from serving the public.

 

[magnifier661]

If Biden steps down, Bernie would be the nominee. No way in hell anyone else gets to push in front of him.

 

[calvin natt]

I don’t know a single person who would care if Biden dropped out. Fine. Go for it and get someone else. However if he stays in I’m all in on Biden. Every Biden voter would just go vote for whoever takes his place. I’ve said he should drop out because of Hunter Biden. It’s funny though all the reasons I think he should drop out, trump has the same issues but nobody on the right is saying he should drop out. Weird how that works.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

If Biden steps down, Bernie would be the nominee. No way in hell anyone else gets to push in front of him.

Lol. Bernie won't be the nominee.

Bernie is used to being cucked.

It will be Warren or Harris. There will be a surprise VP pick.

 

[magnifier661]

Lol. Bernie won't be the nominee.

I know, but it should be him since he was second in voting. The Democrat Establishment will never let him be the nominee.

 

[Hoopguru]

I don’t know a single person who would care if Biden dropped out. Fine. Go for it and get someone else. However if he stays in I’m all in on Biden. Every Biden voter would just go vote for whoever takes his place. I’ve said he should drop out because of Hunter Biden. It’s funny though all the reasons I think he should drop out, trump has the same issues but nobody on the right is saying he should drop out. Weird how that works.

Is it a pre requisite fro a President not to be a womanizer at some point in their life? Im not talking about abuse or rape.

 

[magnifier661]

@SlyPokerDog can you move my Tara post in old man thread in here?

 

[calvin natt]

Is it a pre requisite fro a President not to be a womanizer at some point in their life? Im not talking about abuse or rape.

Im not sure what you mean. Both men have been accused of sexual assault. Nobody cares about being a “womanizer”.

 

[Hoopguru]

So, she can be made to sound pretty wacky (apparently a real Putin fan) but keeps getting more corroborating witnesses for the Biden accusation. What should Dems do? Obviously what they SHOULD do is insist Biden step aside. How can they support Biden given the (correct) stance on Christine Blasey Ford? But on the other hand, what's the (political) alternative? You just know the party isn't going to let Bernie replace him as the candidate, but if they try to pass Biden's mantle on to another centrist, Bernie supporters are going to go apeshit. Is this how Trump survives?

A person is innocent unless proven guilty. The press cannot be judge and/or jury. They can put people in frenzy to help ratings or influence perception and perception goes a long ways.

 

[magnifier661]

Im not sure what you mean. Both men have been accused of sexual assault. Nobody cares about being a “womanizer”.

I read it like, “Is being a womanizer disqualify a person from being a president?”

 

[Hoopguru]

Im not sure what you mean. Both men have been accused of sexual assault. Nobody cares about being a “womanizer”.

Both are innocent unless proven guilty and many politicians have screwed around over the years.

 

[magnifier661]

Both are innocent unless proven guilty and many politicians have screwed around over the years.

JFK was rumored to have side chics.

 

[Orion Bailey]

When it comes to allegations against politicians, I would be curious to see if there is a trend of party preference in the accusers.

Meaning, Biden accusers... what are their party affiliations? Mostly Republican?

Trump accusers... mostly Democratic?


Done a bit of searching but cant find any info out about that on either of them.

 

[calvin natt]

I read it like, “Is being a womanizer disqualify a person from being a president?”

No would be my answer

 

[Orion Bailey]

JFK was rumored to have side chics.

 

[e_blazer]

I don’t know a single person who would care if Biden dropped out. Fine. Go for it and get someone else. However if he stays in I’m all in on Biden. Every Biden voter would just go vote for whoever takes his place. I’ve said he should drop out because of Hunter Biden. It’s funny though all the reasons I think he should drop out, trump has the same issues but nobody on the right is saying he should drop out. Weird how that works.

There are certainly Trump supporters for whom that would be true (and, just to be clear, I am definitely NOT a Trump supporter). That said, the real issue here is the Democrats' moral authority for the #Me Too movement loses all credibility when it isn't applied to Biden. I have no idea if Ms Reade's allegations are true. I do know that there is far more substantiation of her claims than there was for those Christine Ford leveled against Kavanaugh yet the media coverage has been largely absent and the "outraged" Democratic politicians who made hay against Kavanaugh are totally silent.

 

[magnifier661]

No would be my answer

I agree

 

[calvin natt]

Both are innocent unless proven guilty and many politicians have screwed around over the years.

Of course. But if you’ve been accused by several women of assault...the problem is probably you, not them. Trump has multiple. Biden I’m sure does, not sure. Regardless they should both drop out. But...nothing matters anymore. They’ll both stay and everyone will get past it and justify it.

 

[Hoopguru]

JFK was rumored to have side chics.

Not JFK! He never got caught did he? I thought he was an All American Catholic boy! and a democrat!

 

[calvin natt]

There are certainly Trump supporters for whom that would be true (and, just to be clear, I am definitely NOT a Trump supporter). That said, the real issue here is the Democrats' moral authority for the #Me Too movement loses all credibility when it isn't applied to Biden. I have no idea if Ms Reade's allegations are true. I do know that there is far more substantiation of her claims than there was for those Christine Ford leveled against Kavanaugh yet the media coverage has been largely absent and the "outraged" Democratic politicians who made hay against Kavanaugh are totally silent.

I agree.

 

[Hoopguru]

Of course. But if you’ve been accused by several women of assault...the problem is probably you, not them. Trump has multiple. Biden I’m sure does, not sure. Regardless they should both drop out. But...nothing matters anymore. They’ll both stay and everyone will get past it and justify it.

agree...the press and both party committees try and engineer just how they want things to unfold. Trump is the outlier imo, nobody ever thought he'd win.

 

[Minstrel]

I didn’t think Al Franken should of stepped down. The photo of him pretending to grab that lady’s boobs was inappropriate, but done when he was a comedian, and still not worthy of stepping down as a congressman. The lady accepted Franken’s apology as well. The #MeToo movement destroyed a good senator from serving the public.

If it had just been that picture, I have little doubt that Franken would have survived politically and it would probably have been forgotten. But after the discussion over that picture, a couple of other woman came forward and said that he had touched them inappropriately and made them uncomfortable. None of them accused him of sexual misconduct, as I recall, just inappropriate touching. All of it combined made Franken believe that he should step down.

 

[Hoopguru]

Of course. But if you’ve been accused by several women of assault...the problem is probably you, not them. Trump has multiple. Biden I’m sure does, not sure. Regardless they should both drop out. But...nothing matters anymore. They’ll both stay and everyone will get past it and justify it.

Hell, I remember some of the networks promoting that Avanvatti guy as possible presidential material.